Windows Breaking From Heat

[defaultdotxbe]

A few problems with this analogy.

1) The hammer doesn't shatter, only the ice. With WTC, the "hammer" (the upper part of the building) disintergrates along with the lower part. Odd.

try it with a hammer made of ice

2) Breaking the ice requires not only the hammer hitting from above, but also tremendous resistance from below. Yet, according to NIST, the intact structure below offered "very little resistance". This low resistance, of course, is needed to explain the rapid collapse times.

the same tremendous resistence below is present in both situations: the ground

3) Swinging the hammer is imparting great energy into the system beyond gravitational potential energy. WTC supposedly crushed themselves using gravity alone.

the top 20 stories are much heavier than a hammer

 

[kevin]

[qimg]http://www.erichufschmid.net/July_6_1962_Nevada.JPG[/qimg]
[qimg]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/janedoe444/present/mushroom.jpg[/qimg]

so it is now possible to identify the source of smoke based on it's shape. Interesting. Got a link to a page showing sources to shape type that I can hang up on my wall? That would be very useful.

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

I wonder why the picture of the WTC mushroom cloud keeps disappearing out of the forum. Here's a smaller version

 

[Mancman]

I wonder why the picture of the WTC mushroom cloud keeps disappearing out of the forum. Here's a smaller version[qimg]http://www.acebaker.com/KingdomCome/KingdomCome.jpg[/qimg]

I think I know what caused it. A really big building fell down.

How about all those missing windows?

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

the same tremendous resistence below is present in both situations: the ground

But the stuff didn't break when it hit the ground. It pulverized in mid air. And it is NIST that says the structure encountered "very little resistance".

And yes, you can tell plenty about clouds from their shape. A mushroom cloud, such as the one where WTC1 just was, is a very specific phenomenon. Very interesting physics.

Mackey, what makes a mushroom cloud do its thing, and why is there one in the picture of WTC1?

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

I can't really tell if there are more missing windows in the later picture or not, but, tell you what, I'll concede that the north tower fire was hot enough to break windows. I stand corrected on the north tower. Not sure at all about the south tower.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

I wonder why the picture of the WTC mushroom cloud keeps disappearing out of the forum. Here's a smaller version[qimg]http://www.acebaker.com/KingdomCome/KingdomCome.jpg[/qimg]

It's not "disappearing", you're hotlinking; which is a violation of Rule 4 (regarding copyrights).

 

[defaultdotxbe]

But the stuff didn't break when it hit the ground. It pulverized in mid air. And it is NIST that says the structure encountered "very little resistance".

you do realize that a block of ice is alot denser than the towers right? that when hit by a large force will transfer force through itself, whereas the towers were not as strong and began to fail from the top down

 

[ghost707]

But the stuff didn't break when it hit the ground. It pulverized in mid air. And it is NIST that says the structure encountered "very little resistance".

And yes, you can tell plenty about clouds from their shape. A mushroom cloud, such as the one where WTC1 just was, is a very specific phenomenon. Very interesting physics.

Mackey, what makes a mushroom cloud do its thing, and why is there one in the picture of WTC1?

Why don't you tell us, oh enlightened one.

 

[CurtC]

Here's a pretty mushroom cloud. I wonder which building collapse made it
[qimg]http://911research.wtc7.net/papers/dustvolume/docs/wtc1_dust_2en.jpg[/qimg]

I'm sorry, I don't see a mushroom cloud. Can you point out exactly where it is?

Note: there is still high smoke in the sky, put there by the burning building while it was still standing. Is that what you're talking about? If not, please clue me in.

 

[apathoid]

I'm sorry, I don't see a mushroom cloud. Can you point out exactly where it is?

You're not the only one, I still cant see it either. I see a big cloud of debris and dust impacting the ground and rushing outward, I see a suspended column of smoke and dust remaining where the building stood, and finally I see a huge cloud of smoke remaining from the fires. Is this what Troooofseeker1234 is talking about, or is there a mushroom cloud somewhere in the picture that I cant see?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

maybe its liek the mushroom in george washingtons head, you have to fold the dollar just right to see it

 

[DavidJames]

[qimg]http://www.erichufschmid.net/July_6_1962_Nevada.JPG[/qimg]
[qimg]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b108/janedoe444/present/mushroom.jpg[/qimg]

Where else can we find these exact two pictures in a post?

hmmm,

killtown, is that you?

 

[Mancman]

I can't really tell if there are more missing windows in the later picture or not, but, tell you what, I'll concede that the north tower fire was hot enough to break windows. I stand corrected on the north tower. Not sure at all about the south tower.

There is an easily visible distinction between intact and missing windows in that photo.

According to NIST, from floors 78-84 in WTC2, 433 windows were broken by the impact, and a further 187 were opened by the fires.

Photographic evidence. Floor 79.

 

[apathoid]

Where else can we find these exact two pictures in a post?

hmmm,

killtown, is that you?

I dont think its Killtown, but the link to a Holocaust Deniers site is quite KT-like, I agree.

"Truth"cherry-picker, I thought you said you werent talking about a nuke when referring to the mushroom cloud? Was I wrong? Why did you show us a photo of a nuke test right above a photo of the WTC collapse if you arent talking about nukes??

Please clarify.

 

[Mancman]

I'd just like to point out that this first table I nicked only goes upto 9:58am. Here is the complete one, in case anyone is interested:

The fires opened 1076 windows across floors 92-99.....

 

[Bell]

Please stop showing tables. Everybody can make up tables and fill out some numbers. TroofTroll wants pictoorz!

Oh no, he doesn't, those aren't good enough either

 

[DavidJames]

I dont think its Killtown, but the link to a Holocaust Deniers site is quite KT-like, I agree.

You may be right, I didn't check the sources, they are on 2 different sites (just from the properties) so he consciously (may be a poor choice of words), put them together, just as killtown did, but then again, who know, many of them sing from the same songbook, blindly, without thinking...

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Please stop showing tables. Everybody can make up tables and fill out some numbers. TroofTroll wants pictoorz!

Oh no, he doesn't, those aren't good enough either

he wants someone else to do the work so he doesnt have to believe it if he doesnt want to

 

[Bell]

he wants someone else to do the work so he doesnt have to believe it if he doesnt want to

TruthSeeker1234, try here:

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/researchers.htm

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