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Windows 11

FYI, You can move the start button back to where it belongs. I'm signed up to the Windows Insider program, and have been using Win 11 for months. I do like it, but I see no pressing reason to upgrade if you don't want to.
 
Yeah, I got the same notice. I'm not interested and dismissed the notification.

I'm fairly happy with Win10 Pro running the StartIsBack start button, do not log in with a Microsoft account name and have no interest in app stores or cloud services of any kind, so I do not see the point of going to 11 at this time.
 
Ron Obvious said:
Yeah, I got the same notice. I'm not interested and dismissed the notification.

I'm fairly happy with Win10 Pro running the StartIsBack start button, do not log in with a Microsoft account name and have no interest in app stores or cloud services of any kind, so I do not see the point of going to 11 at this time.
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It's really just an incremental version of Win 10. The branding department was getting bored with nothing to do.
 
Ron Obvious said:
Yeah, I got the same notice. I'm not interested and dismissed the notification.

I'm fairly happy with Win10 Pro running the StartIsBack start button, do not log in with a Microsoft account name and have no interest in app stores or cloud services of any kind, so I do not see the point of going to 11 at this time.
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"New"
 
LondonJohn said:
Windows often gets an unfairly bad rap (IMO) - mostly coming from (it would appear) either a) specialised super-users who require/desire the sorts of features that other OSs such as Linux provide, but which Windows does not; b) people who are almost evangelically wedded to other OSs (notably iOS); or c) people who still have legacy beliefs linked to things like Windows 3.1.
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How about users who just find if frustrating. Evidently a 5 year old fairly high end PC with 8GB of RAM is not nearly powerful enough to cope with something as resource demanding as Microsoft Windows.

Boot up can take as long as 15 minutes to complete and even then, I have been fooled by apps taking so long to start up that I thought maybe I didn't click on them properly. I invariably ended up with two copies of the app running simultaneously. There is no excuse for such a bloated OS.

In contrast, Linux is up and running from turn on within 30 seconds. And when the distro I was using broke, it was a simple matter to switch to a live distro (antiX), set up a couple of "persistence" files and I was up and running again.

Unfortunately, Linux has driver issues (not enough developers) and many software vendors only make software for Windows so I will have to endure the frustration a while longer.

I don't know what I will do when I am forced to upgrade to Win11. Maybe I will have to buy a separate tower and some sort of switching mechanism.
 
psionl0 said:
Boot up can take as long as 15 minutes to complete and even then, I have been fooled by apps taking so long to start up that I thought maybe I didn't click on them properly. I invariably ended up with two copies of the app running simultaneously. There is no excuse for such a bloated OS.
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A regular check with autoruns is a good idea. So many apps install "helpers" and "updaters" that run at startup they can be a PITA.
 
It appears to want to look like MacOS. I don't know that it's an improvement from Win10 and I'm annoyed that I have to rediscover where certain settings and shortcuts are.
 
Fine by me. I seem to like it more than 10. I have 11 on my laptop but can't upgrade my desktop. 11 looks nicer and the central start button is easier to reach. Not a major change, it's really more of a major patch.
 
I hate having to re-learn where everything is. The truncated context menus are a major pain in the arse - you now have to guess where things might be hiding in the second context menu. Previously, ANYTHING on the context menu could be selected with "right click then left click". Now you have to right click and read through all the options, hovering the mouse over everything until you see what you are looking for. In a business environment, this is an unnecessary waste of time.

Having the Start menu and taskbar icons centralised is also a major pain. I want the ******* icons to stay where I put them and not have the OS decide where they should be. It might look pretty, but again, its inefficient.

It also comes with the worse than useless Edge browser pre-installed as default, and you can't remove it. Even worse, making another browser the default is no longer the simple task it used to be. You have to piss about with a number of settings, for example, you must change the default app extension assignments for .htm, .html, .pdf, .shtml or any other file type you want to use a browser for. And that is not all - if you click a link from Windows search or the widget panel, or if you create an internet shortcut on your Desktop, it will open in Edge even if you have set Chrome or Firefox as your default browser. This is all part of Microsoft's nefarious plan to "persuade" you to use their crappy browser by making it difficult or inconvenient to use anything else. This behaviour is completely unacceptable.

Finally, and worst of all from a personal point of view, the Win 11 taskbar cannot be moved from the bottom. I have had the taskbar at the top and Start Menu on the left in every computer I have used and owned since my first GUI computer, an Apple Macintosh SE 35 years ago. I hate having the taskbar at the bottom, and not being able to change it is a show-stopper for me, so I have reverted back to Windows 10 and I won't even look at upgrading until that aspect changes.
 
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AmyStrange said:
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Has anyone else downloaded Windows 11 and what do you think?

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I'm typing this on W7. And would prefer XP. Ned Ludd is my hero.

We do have a newer computer with W10. I hate it. It's slower and the keyboard (not MS's fault) causes me to mis-type almost everything. And even it is so old that MS has not attempted to force 11 on us.
 
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Trebuchet said:
I'm typing this on W7. And would prefer XP. Ned Ludd is my hero.

We do have a newer computer with W10. I hate it. It's slower and the keyboard (not MS's fault) causes me to mis-type almost everything. And even it is so old that MS has not attempted to force 11 on us.
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I miss the EDIT (not edline) and QBASIC dos programs in the old windows.

When you search for the dos "edit" program online, all I got was this one page explaining that all you have to do is write "edit" in Win10's START search, and it'll pop right up.

Maybe I'm missing something, but there is NO FREAKIN' search in Win10 START.

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH @$#%&*!!

I know I can use Notepad, but there are some things you can't do with it like create asci art quickly that's viewable in a browser. For example, when you go down a page and hit an empty line, the cursor moves back to the far left with Notepad, but it doesn't do that in Edit. It goes straight down the page.

I used to use it to write ALL my html webpages.

Also, I can't find the damn Movie Maker in Win11, but since I still have a computer with Win10, I really don't care about that, and I know you can use the Photos app, but it doesn't do anything like what MM can do.

Thank God they didn't get rid of Paint, but I've heard that it won't be upgraded any more, and that probably means they'll eventually get rid of that too.

Other than all that, I love Windows and Win11

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arthwollipot said:
What happens if you press the Windows key and just start typing?
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That actually worked and thank you, but still no dos edit.

Couldn't MS just put a FREAKIN' search box in start instead of having to learn this from someone else, like it's some BIG FREAKIN' secret?

Anyway, thanks again.

ETA: Sorry for the rant, and please believe me, I'm not mad at you in the least.

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