Will you be watching Trump's first SOTU?

Will you be watching Trump's first SOTU?

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ahhell said:
You may not like it but optics matter in politics, probably more than substance.
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Really.

In this day and age with Trump as the figurehead of this **** hole country, Optics matters?

If Chappaquiddick was the takeaway from his speech, we're in big trouble.
 
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I watched it... nice to see him not go bonkers during most of that speech, but I can see from their reaction and reactions from people on here that the few actually seem capable of compartmentalizing between what he's done right and where he deserves the criticism. Not withstanding NOBODY on the democrat side in that speech floor wanted to celebrate anything like the economic stewardship and foreign policy angle... they were more interested in gaining notoriety from their base... and I'm gathering the same from reading this thread seeing as nothing he's handled properly has even seen mention...

Hate his personality myself... consider his tweet storms and trolling unprofessional and divisive... but I do give him some credit at least for his work with the economy and the tax reform, pending how it plays out in coming months. And some level of credit for giving US commanders more authority to make decisions on handling ISIS to get their fighter numbers down.

His calls for unity ring hollow given his rhetoric... he needs to be consistent on it or I'm hard pressed to believe he'll be anything but partisan in rhetoric. That's one of the few qualities he's been consistent on; not being consistent
 
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Grizzly Bear said:
I watched it... nice to see him not go bonkers during most of that speech, but I can see from their reaction and reactions from people on here that the few actually seem capable of compartmentalizing between what he's done right and where he deserves the criticism.
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The problem is, he's done pretty much nothing right. Not. One. Thing.
Not withstanding NOBODY on the democrat side in that speech floor wanted to celebrate anything like the economic stewardship..
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Umm... Trump's "stewardship"? The economy has been growing, but that is nothing different than what has been happening for the past few years (and in fact job growth is actually SLOWER under Trump than it was under the last year of Obama.)

Plus, Trump didn't even sign any significant legislation until the tax bill in December.

Perhaps some think he could get credit for not screwing things up on day 1, but for most people that's a pretty low bar to set.

So the democrats were right during the SOTU not to give credit to Trump.
...and foreign policy angle...
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What "foreign policy angle"? The fact that the U.S. is often mocked by the leaders of other countries? The fact that Trump regularly undercuts his own Secretary of State? The defeat of ISIS, which is largely due to strategies implemented by Obama?
Hate his personality myself... consider his tweet storms and trolling unprofessional and divisive... but I do give him some credit at least for his work with the economy...
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As stated before, economic growth seems to have little to do with Trump.

It is true, he is eliminating certain regulations. But since the economic collapse of 2008 was caused (in part) on a lack of regulations, getting rid of rules to prevent another collapse (all in the goal of short term profit) seems like a foolish thing to do for most.
...and the tax reform, pending how it plays out in coming months.
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Ah yes, Tax reform... which is going to add $billions to the U.S. debt, and at the end leave the middle class with a higher tax burden than they currently have.

Lets all give Trump a hand for that, shall we?
And some level of credit for giving US commanders more authority to make decisions on handling ISIS to get their fighter numbers down.
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ISIS was already losing ground in Syria/Iraq before Trump came to power.

And the danger of giving commanders more authority to make decisions is that they can sometimes make the wrong decision, causing civilian casualties and more problems.
 
The Big Dog said:
well the consensus was that Trump was Presidential.

I don't know about you, but right after the speech they switched over to Opie giving his 11th grade speech in the Mayberry High Auto Shop. The **** was that?
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The Joe Kennedy speech - I had to make sure I didn't accidentally drop LSD. What the hell was that? And wipe the drool or Chapstick off your face dude. That's all I could focus on for the entire 2/3 of the speech that I watched. I only made it that far because my Dad insisted this was the weirdest speech ever.

He was all over the place. It felt like an SNL skit except it was serious. I thought he was gonna cry. Good luck Dems if this is your next choice for Pres. Oh and it had zero to do with the Sate of the Union. I'm guessing it was prerecorded before it.
 
applecorped said:
75% approval, damn that CBS!
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Yes, you're very happy about the approval.

It's a shame you think that's more important than facts and stuff, but we're Making America Great Again, so truth needs to make room for truthiness. 'MURICA!
 
applecorped said:
Three in four Americans who tuned in to President Trump's State of the Union address tonight approved of the speech he gave. Just a quarter disapproved.
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So the approval was for the speech only. Was this the only question they asked?
 
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applecorped said:
75% approval, damn that CBS!
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A little context here is important...

Yes, the speech did get a 75% approval, but from: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/viewer...rst-state-of-the-union-address-cbs-news-poll/
But as is often the case in State of the Union addresses, the people who watched tonight's speech leaned more towards the president's own party, at least compared to Americans overall. In the latest CBS national poll released earlier this month, 24 percent of Americans identified themselves as Republicans. Among those who watched tonight's address, that percentage was 42 percent, bolstering the overall approval of the address.
 
CORed said:
The only way that will ever happen is if he dies. Which, now that I think about it, I would be perfectly happy to watch.
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This is exactly how I am picturing a lot of liberals these days - foot-stomping full-blown pouting. "I wish you'd DIE!" Meanwhile the world moves on while you have Joe Kennedy literally drooling for a shot at the Presidency.

Joe's was the stupidest most awkward speech (awkward for me) I've ever seen. Do they really think this angle is going to work? The "evil fascist killers" taking over the White House? It won't.

I can see how people would be afraid or wary of Trump, but the left needs to look at themselves right now. You have NOTHING to offer anyone except hate. You call it inclusiveness but your message is ass-backwards right now. I can't believe not enough people recognize this.

My main source of wonder right now is the magnitude of stupidity coming from the left. Their behavior is 100% detrimental to them. The overreactions to every news blurb under the sun are making them look like children.

Regular people, celebrities, and high ranking officials. Crying, pleading! I don't know how you made it so easy to hate you and defend Trump, but you're doing it.

I doubt Trump could actually shoot someone on the street and get away with it (as he joked about before) but if he could it would be the fault of the left.

I guess I think Trump is being martyred by the left in a big way.
 
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