Others have asked you not to post the redundant date / time information, but I'd like to know - how does timekeeping work where you are? Did it take you 25 minutes to finish this post?
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Hokulele
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Aha! We now have an easy way to test if Ka Apaz is lying or not. The next time she collapses, it means that her spirit has left her body and she is technically dead, right? Check for a pulse. If it is there, her spirit hasn't left, she isn't dead, and she has been lying to you.
Simple!
Jack by the hedge
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You appear to be arguing that the violent destruction of billions of ordinary people is justified because voluntary population control might not work soon enough to prevent overpopulation (the effects of which can scarcely be worse than the global nuclear holocaust you appear to relish).
Kill two thirds of humanity, just in case they go hungry in future.
That's beyond barbaric and completely idiotic. There may not yet be a word for how evil and retarded that idea is.
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@DrDave, #3919
Here is the latest news from the Associated Press about the South China Sea tensions:
Secretary Clinton to discuss South China Sea tensions during swing through Asia-Pacific
By Associated Press, Updated: Wednesday, August 29, 4:35 AM AP
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...eaf25c-f13a-11e1-b74c-84ed55e0300b_story.html
I don’t want to guess anymore when the world war will happen. Ama said that it will start from the Spratly Islands being claimed by the Philippines (1986) and that it will be in the middle of the year and on a Wednesday. We have to change our wrong beliefs and change our sinful ways. We have to learn to pray to the true God.
As Spokeswoman Victoria Nuland (I guess of the White House in the US) said at a news , “We don’t want to see the disputes in the South China Sea or anywhere else settled by intimidation, by force. We want to see them settled at the negotiating table.”
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This is all quite beside the point, because the prediction about WWIII was completely false.
The whole story about Reneliniyindi and her tragic wedding is false and the audios I've heard really sound like a typical false medium.
No, PC.
You cannot believe God is behind that foolish story about Reneliniyindi.
Or the non-existent Angelina Imden.
Or the fictitious St Evangelina.
SezMe
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So very true, PC. So tell us: what wrong beliefs have YOU changed. From where I sit, I don't see any. You still believe Ama's prophecies even though they have proven to be false. You promised you'd quit talking about them yet you continue to prattle on and on and .... You still listen to that old crone, Ka. You still want WWIII to happen, with all its attendant horror and destruction. You still look for the Holy Ghost to point the way for you. And so on for pages and pages.
These embody wrong beliefs and sinful ways that you persist in. Why?
So very false, PC. You, yourself, have shown in this thread the futility of prayer. What you need to learn is to NOT engage in prayer but rather to engage in the real world.
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Hey, wait a minute... You've gone right back to believing that Ka Apaz is channeling your god, despite undeniable proof that something she (Ka Apaz) said was utterly false.
How do you reconcile that with your claim that only your god has the ability to accurately predict the future? Was he having a joke at your expense? Does he routinely make false statements to make his followers appear to be fools?
Have you learned nothing?
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If your beloved nuclear war breaks out, Aristeo, it will be "too late" for over 4 billion people. I prefer to try to do things the correct way, with intelligence, empathy and common sense, rather than just blowing things up and starting over in a radiation-ravaged wasteland.
If your god has the power to delay a war, it also has the responsibility to prevent it. Furthermore, a god that would murder 4 billion people by neglect is unworthy of respect.
Because someone wrote about it in a book of mythology approximately 2 millennia ago. I am of the very strongly-held opinion that the Holy Spirit is imaginary.
Ridiculous. There is no credible evidence for "spirits" of any kind, and no evidence for your god. We are alive because of biochemical and electrochemical processes, evolved over billions of years.
Unsupported assertion: No evidence for 'spirit' and no evidence for 'God.'
A living person is different from a dead person because a living person has functional body systems that bring in oxygen, expel carbon dioxide, process food and water and expel waste products. When respiration stops, the available oxygen in the body begins to decline. When the heart stops blood circulation also stops, and even if the lungs were still functional the oxygen can't get to the cells that need it. The brain cannot function without oxygen, and when it dies all other body systems start to shut down. At room temperature, brain damage is irreversible in less than 20 minutes. The longest instance of recovery from clinical death is only about 1 hour, and only if the body is in a state of hypothermia.
I do not believe in spirits. I believe that spirits cannot leave the body because they were never there in the first place. I believe that all things that live are entirely natural, completely lacking in supernatural "spirits," and that when they pass the window of opportunity for clinical resuscitation, they stay dead permanently.
No. I am of the opinion that no one has ever come back from the dead, including the mythical Lazarus and Jesus. Dead people stay dead, although the atoms that comprised their bodies may occasionally find their way into other forms of organic matter.
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PC, I've offered to translate documents for you.
Documents you've yet to post up.
Other posters here have explained with patience and information just why it is true that KA is a fake medium.
I've explained how it is I know the woman is a fake.
But all explanation dwindles in comparison to the truth:
Her prophecy, the one you outlined in the OP failed.
Wednesday morning at 5 o'clock...
I wonder what KA does for money. Does she live in a shack? Does she eat well? Do other people clean up after her? Could it be that an old blind woman may have found a way to live well through scamming the faithful?
I wonder what KA does for money. Does she live in a shack? Does she eat well? Do other people clean up after her? Could it be that an old blind woman may have found a way to live well through scamming the faithful?
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No no no no. That's acting, it's just pretend. Whereas...
OK I see your point. Carry on.
hurdygurdy
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The god who makes you wish the death of two thirds of humanity? The ommnipotent god who is unable to cancel the incoming nuclear war? Sure, where do I have to sign?
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@carlitos, #3921
I started to make this post at 3:00am of 2012-08-30 (the time at my time zone). I may not post immediately because I may do something else in front or out of the computer. And when I am back, I may have to re-read my post and continue completing it. Then I re-read before posting it.
You see, what I post may be used against me – my own words from my PC. So I take caution especially here at James Randi Educational Foundation forums where people are too critical even with a paragraph, a sentence, or even a word.
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@Hokulele, #3922
You may check her pulse when she leaves her body but I tell you that the exit and entry of spirits happen in a second or two. We (plural) see her body collapses. We hear the sound of it hitting the floor. We see it rises again. So you may not even have time to check the pulse.
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@Jack by the hedge, #3923
I am not for “the violent destruction of billions of ordinary people”. I am just sharing to you what I heard from the spirit we (plural) talk to. And what he says is most of the time can be authenticated by what have been written, e.g. the Holy Bible, accounts of Flavius Josephus, etc. I sharing to you what man will do to his fellowmen. It is man’s time now. He can do whatever he likes. He may not even believe in the only true God who gave him his life. But when he leaves his physical body and goes to the spiritual world, there will be no time to repent. It will be God’s time and He will settle account. On Judgment Day, all of us will receive our sentence if we go to either Heaven or Hell.
Yes, man will become “... barbaric and completely idiotic ... how evil and retarded that idea is”. Why? Because man does not know who the only true God is.
Have you heard what the only true God did in Egypt during the time of Moses? Have you heard what the only true God did to the almost a million Israelites in the dry and barren Sinai Peninsula for forty years? Man should have faith in the only true God. Whatever sufferings there may be, leave them to the only true God.
Should we clamor for higher wages? We have to learn to pray to the only true God that we will be able to cope with the rising prices. Learn to bear sufferings. Learn to tighten our belts.
Is there nothing to talk about except to step on the head of someone else’s? Why do we have to say bad words against our fellowmen? Can we not say good things about a person? We have to remember that we are all equal. And the only true God is in each of us. What we do to our fellowmen, we did that to the only true God.
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