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Why truthers are dangerouse!

You know what? I just realised that Alex Jones practises False Flag Journalism. He reports stuff as if he was a Journalist and as if it was true, with the sole purpose of fooling people into buying his merchandise.

Why aren't his fans calling him out on all of this? Because they are a bunch of stupid sheep incapable of thinking for themselves!!!11!1!!!!11!!!:duck:

Or could it be that those who follow the mainstream news are a bunch of stupid sheep who let their televisions think their thoughts for them....There are no journalists employed by the networks anymore...Just a bunch of second rate actors with poofy hair who read the prescribed medium from teleprompters...Name ONE TV journalist working today...The only real news today comes fron Independent international sources who are not subsidized by corporations owned and controlled by war profiteers...Seek them out with your search engines....AJ is just one small source...
 
Or could it be that those who follow the mainstream news are a bunch of stupid sheep who let their televisions think their thoughts for them....There are no journalists employed by the networks anymore...Just a bunch of second rate actors with poofy hair who read the prescribed medium from teleprompters...Name ONE TV journalist working today...The only real news today comes fron Independent international sources who are not subsidized by corporations owned and controlled by war profiteers...Seek them out with your search engines....AJ is just one small source...

So what JMH? You're a sheep!

BAAAAAAAAAAAA!
 
Or could it be that those who follow the mainstream news are a bunch of stupid sheep who let their televisions think their thoughts for them....There are no journalists employed by the networks anymore...Just a bunch of second rate actors with poofy hair who read the prescribed medium from teleprompters...Name ONE TV journalist working today...The only real news today comes fron Independent international sources who are not subsidized by corporations owned and controlled by war profiteers...Seek them out with your search engines....AJ is just one small source...

Mark Davies.

John Pilger.

Oops that's two (there are more). Oh well if all you ever watch is the 6.00pm News on commercial TV, of course you are going to get a load of crap. If all you read are tabloid rags owned by Murdoch etc then of course you are reading crap. Why you come here and accuse people of doing stuff that we know we don't do is a mystery to me.

You seem to be under the misapprehension that this is a site for people who don't care about truth. You are wrong.

At the same time I have to point out to you that even if Alex Jones has never taken a corporate dollar in his life, it doesn't make what he says anymore reliable than the worst of Murdoch's corporation hacks.

He has absolutely no credibility and deserves nothing but contempt for the shabby way he lies and distorts everything he can just so he can sell more crap to credulous morons.
 
I guess JMH likes getting his butt handed to him all the time.

He comes here with an attitude, thinks he's "King" of all Alex Jones propaganda material and we're the ones that are the, excuse me for a moment, "SHEEP".

Yeah JMH got us all figured out alright, it's a shame he doesn't have a clue.

JMH:

"All hail Alex Jones! The God of Disinfo & propaganda! I worship thee!"

<Not an attack on JMH's charactor or himself. Just his format & presentation>
 
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Many Jews, Catholics and Protestants ALL OVER THE WORLD also agree that their religions have issues with extremists. (or phonies posing as co religionists using these religion's as a false reason to take rash actions for their own political or monetary gain)

And, in fact, anybody sane would agree with that to some extent.

Look, you've had it pointed out that your "Debunkers think all terrorism is due to Islam" strawman is, in fact, a strawman, and yet you continue to attack it with frothing-mouthed vigour. All this demonstrates is that you're so wrapped up in your own delusions, you're incapable of seeing when you're wrong. That doesn't exactly give anyone much faith in your conclusions.

Dave
 
some twoof said:
1)You obviously can not wrap your brain around the concept of FALSE FLAG TERRORISM. My assertion as I have clearly stated is that Bin Laden and al Queda are assets of rogue elements of the CIA. There is evidence to back this assertion.

Oh no. I fully understand that there can be things like false flag terrorisms. You seem to NOT understand how BIG that conspiracy would HAVE to be in order for 9/11 to have been false flag. A conspiracy in the tens of thousands, yet NO ONE HAS EVER TALKED. Not to their priest, not to a shrink, not to a lover, or bragged about it in jail. NOT ONE PERSON. un****ingbelieveable.

Provide the EVIDENCE. (you can't, because it all comes down to insinuations and bs... LOOK IT UP)

And we can easily see that you have NO idea, experience or understanding of
1. military operations
2. Controlled Demolitions
3. Anything else related to 9/11.

Try to go back and educate yourself. It does help if you actually READ books

2)Many Jews, Catholics and Protestants ALL OVER THE WORLD also agree that their religions have issues with extremists. (or phonies posing as co religionists using these religion's as a false reason to take rash actions for their own political or monetary gain) Such as:

a)The extreme right wing pseudo christians in America who believe that a holy war is being fought in the middle east, and cheered Bushco into these ridiculous confrontations.

b)The lunitic right wing neoCON "Jews" who are hiding behind the Jewish religion that I believe were EXTREMELY instrumental in getting the US into these idiotic wars.
Yup... and there is NOTHING like the islamic terrorists in ANY of those groups. They exist, and they are all over the place in this part of the world (where I live).

Ask a muslim who did 9/11... they will tell you it was UBL and Al Q. It is amazing isnt it?

Blah blah blah


THESE lunitics gave Bush, Cheney and company the political capital needed to engage in two destructive costly wars.

see... here you go off the rails. 51% of the american public chose GWB in 2000, and 54% chose him in 2004. ARe all of those 100 MILLION americans "lunitics[sic]?"

4000 US soldiers dead along with a million innocent Iraqis & Afghanis and trillions of dollars spent from the now bankrupt US economy

Wow... you hit that RIGHT on the head... so Bush and Cheney and the JOOOOOOSSSS took the US to war (the biggest economy in the world, strongest military) so that it would.... cause the US to LOSE influence in the ME and allow Iran to gain it? Or to cause the US economy to melt down? Wait... that doesn't scan...

cuz da joooooooz are after MAKING money, and after reducing the power of IRAN.

Again twoof... simple easy question... if you were going to set it up, would you put in 19 hijackers WHO ARE NOT FROM THE COUNTRIES you invaded????

oh yes... this is what you believe


All of these seem to fit you...
 
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What a weird little salad of lies. It’s all there in black and white for everyone to see. Everyone’s already seen it. Who could you be possibly hoping to fool – yourself?


So what is the connection betweeen your formal logic and the logic of the OP and other "Ooh look a Killer Truther! That proves Truthers are killers" logicians?




And, in fact, anybody sane would agree with that to some extent.

Look, you've had it pointed out that your "Debunkers think all terrorism is due to Islam" strawman is, in fact, a strawman, and yet you continue to attack it with frothing-mouthed vigour. All this demonstrates is that you're so wrapped up in your own delusions, you're incapable of seeing when you're wrong. That doesn't exactly give anyone much faith in your conclusions.

Dave

This statement reminds me of someone else's propensity for drawing deluded strawman conclusions while vigorously frothing at the mouth:

Congratulations on your flawless conspiracist logic. To defend an assertion that posters at JREF are all Republicans, simply extend the definition of "Republican" to include "Anybody who posts at JREF". It's not quite as impressive of your recent definition of the entire population of the world as terrorists, but it's still a very credible attempt to make any form of verbal communication irrelevant to you.

Dave
 
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deluded strawman conclusions

If you can't present evidence JJ, then how can you claim that what we say is "strawman"?

Evidence backed up by witnesses, experts and investigators isn't "strawmen".

I think you should look up the word "deluded" at www.dictionary.com, you might find something about it.

Delude:

To elude or evade.


JJ, you like to elude and evade questions directed at you.

Like mine for example:

If RDX explosives were used, then how come the bomb sniffing dogs didn't detect any BEFORE 9/11?
 
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Oh no. I fully understand that there can be things like false flag terrorisms. You seem to NOT understand how BIG that conspiracy would HAVE to be in order for 9/11 to have been false flag. A conspiracy in the tens of thousands,

Wrong. Others have suggested it would take less than 20 people.

yet NO ONE HAS EVER TALKED.

Wrong.

Wow... you hit that RIGHT on the head... so Bush and Cheney and the JOOOOOOSSSS took the US to war (the biggest economy in the world, strongest military) so that it would.... cause the US to LOSE influence in the ME and allow Iran to gain it? Or to cause the US economy to melt down? Wait... that doesn't scan...

cuz da joooooooz are after MAKING money, and after reducing the power of IRAN.

Again twoof... simple easy question... if you were going to set it up, would you put in 19 hijackers WHO ARE NOT FROM THE COUNTRIES you invaded????

Quite a rant! What is the connection between the "War on Terror" and the financial meltdown?

All that matters is demonizing and dehumanizing Muslims in general. It didn't matter one bit that the 911 gang weren't Iraqis in order to lubricate the rape of Iraq with their crime. Unfortunately for Muslims they live on top of or near a lot of fossil energy deposits, uncomfortably close to China, Russia and India, rising challengers of US global hegemony.

What do you think "JOOOOOOSSSS" might feel about you using them to satisfy your crude mud-slinging needs?
 
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Wrong. Others have suggested it would take less than 20 people.

So then you subscribe to the "tens of thousands of people are as dumb as hammers" approach, which is just as stupid. Face it, the whole false flag idea vis-a-vis 9/11 is just plain ridiculous.
 
So then you subscribe to the "tens of thousands of people are as dumb as hammers" approach, which is just as stupid. Face it, the whole false flag idea vis-a-vis 9/11 is just plain ridiculous.

Please expand your point because I have only an inkling what you are trying to communicate vis-a-vis my post.

Remember that the majority of US soldiers sent to invade Iraq believed they were doing so to avenge the victims of 9/11. Do you think they were all "dumb as hammers"?

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Is the woman on the left as dumb as a hammer? [U.S DoD photo]

(Photo source: 'Media Distortion: Killing Innocent Afghan Civilians to "Save Our Troops"
Eight Years of Horror Perpetrated agaisnt the people of Afghanistan'
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Here's Dr Adequate presenting his minimalist MIHOP scenario. Could have theoretically been an Inside Job/False Flag without even being a conspiracy.

Like the anthrax letters.
 
This statement reminds me of someone else's propensity for drawing deluded strawman conclusions while vigorously frothing at the mouth:

You said that anyone involved in war is a terrorist. Who exactly is not a citizen of a country fighting a war or a producer of goods used by countries fighting a war? I think you'll find it's an insignificantly small proportion of the human race.

Dave
 
JJ didn't see what the woman in the picture was writting on the bomb:

"What goes around comes around."

Quite befitting for JJ, don't ya think?
 
You said that anyone involved in war is a terrorist.

No I didn't.

I said war was terrorism.

Others have expressed the sentiment by saying that suicide bombers are the air force of the poor.

Who exactly is not a citizen of a country fighting a war or a producer of goods used by countries fighting a war? I think you'll find it's an insignificantly small proportion of the human race.

Dave

Doesn't it embarrass you to be reduced to the kind of tap dancing you profess to despise?
 
Right, so you initially gave it large about logic and now, despite much bluffing and evasion,... you’ve been caught out...
Wrong [I didn't bluff/evade]... I've never once claimed to know anything about formal logic... No, I haven't been "caught out".
What a weird little salad of lies. It’s all there in black and white for everyone to see. Everyone’s already seen it. Who could you be possibly hoping to fool – yourself?
So what is the connection betweeen your formal logic and the logic of the OP and other "Ooh look a Killer Truther! That proves Truthers are killers" logicians?


I see. You get caught blagging, then you get caught lying, and now – without as much as an acknowledgement of either – you want to forget all that and start again like nothing's happened. Well, I bet you do! In light of your seemingly effortless detachment from truth and honesty, what earthly benefit do you think I should see in continuing a normal discussion with you – let alone providing you with free logic tuition?
 
Oh no. I fully understand that there can be things like false flag terrorisms. You seem to NOT understand how BIG that conspiracy would HAVE to be in order for 9/11 to have been false flag. A conspiracy in the tens of thousands, yet NO ONE HAS EVER TALKED. Not to their priest, not to a shrink, not to a lover, or bragged about it in jail. NOT ONE PERSON. un****ingbelieveable.

Provide the EVIDENCE. (you can't, because it all comes down to insinuations and bs... LOOK IT UP)

And we can easily see that you have NO idea, experience or understanding of
1. military operations
2. Controlled Demolitions
3. Anything else related to 9/11.

Try to go back and educate yourself. It does help if you actually READ books


Yup... and there is NOTHING like the islamic terrorists in ANY of those groups. They exist, and they are all over the place in this part of the world (where I live).

Ask a muslim who did 9/11... they will tell you it was UBL and Al Q. It is amazing isnt it?

Blah blah blah




see... here you go off the rails. 51% of the american public chose GWB in 2000, and 54% chose him in 2004. ARe all of those 100 MILLION americans "lunitics[sic]?"



Wow... you hit that RIGHT on the head... so Bush and Cheney and the JOOOOOOSSSS took the US to war (the biggest economy in the world, strongest military) so that it would.... cause the US to LOSE influence in the ME and allow Iran to gain it? Or to cause the US economy to melt down? Wait... that doesn't scan...

cuz da joooooooz are after MAKING money, and after reducing the power of IRAN.

Again twoof... simple easy question... if you were going to set it up, would you put in 19 hijackers WHO ARE NOT FROM THE COUNTRIES you invaded????

oh yes... this is what you believe


All of these seem to fit you...

A good indicator of the "accuracy of your information would be your statement that "51% of the US public chose Bush in 2000". Even those who accept the fraud in Florida and legitimize the presidency of Bush would acknowledge the FACT that Gore won the overall popular vote. You are just another blowhard who spews disinfo with wreckless abandon and hopes that nobody notices....We all notice champy...

Another example would be "Ask a muslim who did 911 they will tell you UBL & AQ"...Amazing bla bla bla.....LOL...So we are to believe that you who apparently claim to live in some US/British enclave in the middle east have a grasp on the pulse of the "muslim" public opinion.....LOL.... Cite a credible public opinion poll taken of the muslim world in general instead of just expecting everyone to accept your word as truth because you registered on the JREF as one who lives in the UAE....

As far as reading a book or two...Maybe you should try reading a few books yourself. Your commentary suggests one of a person who gets all his worldviews from FOX, CNN and the like..(I sure haven't seen any deviation in your opinions re 911 from what has been puked out by those two or any other network hacks) .And your debunking style is right out of the Davin Colburn Ben Chertoff Popular Mechanics debunkers handbook for beginners. There is not an original thought rattling around in that orb atop your shoulders...

Nothing you have posted leads me to believe that YOU have any "ideas, experience or understanding of:

1. military operations
2. Controlled Demolitions
3. Anything else related to 9/11.

Again, you are just a typical parrot for the official Bush-Cheney narrative of 911. (which has been proven false on hundreds of points) Your views can be heard 24-7 on any AM talk show. Thanks
 
For a real journalists view of what really happened on 911....

http://www.bollyn.com/solving-9-11-the-book

Or you can keep referring to the JREF-Popular Mechanics Professional Debunking kit contained right here on this site FREE of charge..A giant supermarket of plauseable deniability......And keep parroting the same stale crap that Wolf Blitzer, Sean Hannity, and the rest of the ministry of propaganda have been spewing for 9 years +....Be afraid of those swarthy bearded evil ARABS!!! Be very afraid..Give up your personal freedom to fight ARAB terrorists.....LOL
"[R]eal journalist?"

You mean the guy who asked just two people (cold called them) if they were related to the then director of DHS, got confirmation from only one (who later claimed she didn't confirm it and he hadn't taped the conversation), did no further research and ran with the story?

That's very poor journalism.
 

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