Why truthers are dangerouse!

[johnny karate]

Wrong. Others have suggested it would take less than 20 people.

Please provide an inside job scenario involving less than 20 people you find plausible.

Wrong.

Please name anyone involved in a supposed inside job who has come forward.

 

[johnny karate]

Here's Dr Adequate presenting his minimalist MIHOP scenario. Could have theoretically been an Inside Job/False Flag without even being a conspiracy.

Like the anthrax letters.

You do realize that the intellectual exercise you're linking specifically rules out the use of controlled demolitions, thus robbing the Truth Movement of their favorite talking point?

You can fly that one up the Truther flagpole, but I doubt anyone would salute.

 

[funk de fino]

A good indicator of the "accuracy of your information would be your statement that "51% of the US public chose Bush in 2000". Even those who accept the fraud in Florida and legitimize the presidency of Bush would acknowledge the FACT that Gore won the overall popular vote. You are just another blowhard who spews disinfo with wreckless abandon and hopes that nobody notices....We all notice champy...

Another example would be "Ask a muslim who did 911 they will tell you UBL & AQ"...Amazing bla bla bla.....LOL...So we are to believe that you who apparently claim to live in some US/British enclave in the middle east have a grasp on the pulse of the "muslim" public opinion.....LOL.... Cite a credible public opinion poll taken of the muslim world in general instead of just expecting everyone to accept your word as truth because you registered on the JREF as one who lives in the UAE....

As far as reading a book or two...Maybe you should try reading a few books yourself. Your commentary suggests one of a person who gets all his worldviews from FOX, CNN and the like..(I sure haven't seen any deviation in your opinions re 911 from what has been puked out by those two or any other network hacks) .And your debunking style is right out of the Davin Colburn Ben Chertoff Popular Mechanics debunkers handbook for beginners. There is not an original thought rattling around in that orb atop your shoulders...

Nothing you have posted leads me to believe that YOU have any "ideas, experience or understanding of:

1. military operations
2. Controlled Demolitions
3. Anything else related to 9/11.

Again, you are just a typical parrot for the official Bush-Cheney narrative of 911. (which has been proven false on hundreds of points) Your views can be heard 24-7 on any AM talk show. Thanks

You've never been to a muslim country have you?

 

[Childlike Empress]

You do realize that the intellectual exercise you're linking specifically rules out the use of controlled demolitions, thus robbing the Truth Movement of their favorite talking point?

You can fly that one up the Truther flagpole, but I doubt anyone would salute.

I don't care if anyone salutes and realize that you are trying to derail. "TruthersLie" was talking about "a False Flag operation". I wonder if he will read the link and acknowledge that his rant was based entirely on a false premise. Will you?

 

[TruthersLie]

Wrong. Others have suggested it would take less than 20 people.

Please provide a citation or link describing this covert false flag terrorist event that only needed 20 people... I'd love to see it.

Quite a rant! What is the connection between the "War on Terror" and the financial meltdown?

I didn't bring it up, I was belittling the idiot who did.

All that matters is demonizing and dehumanizing Muslims in general. It didn't matter one bit that the 911 gang weren't Iraqis in order to lubricate the rape of Iraq with their crime. Unfortunately for Muslims they live on top of or near a lot of fossil energy deposits, uncomfortably close to China, Russia and India, rising challengers of US global hegemony.

Ah yes.... As we all know ALL muslims are the same across countries... cuz one rag head is the same as the next... so we use 19 patsies (from Saudi, the UAE, and lebanon) who are NOT from the country we intended to invade (18 months later... with vastly different intelligence and ample reason to reinvade it). Cuz the it makes perfect sense to use people from different places...

What do you think "JOOOOOOSSSS" might feel about you using them to satisfy your crude mud-slinging needs?

I'm not stating they murdered 3,000 people... you should ask the twoof (of which you are a member) or as a member maybe you should tell a joooooooo that they were part of it. I'd love to see that reaction.

 

[johnny karate]

I don't care if anyone salutes and realize that you are trying to derail. "TruthersLie" was talking about "a False Flag operation". I wonder if he will read the link and acknowledge that his rant was based entirely on a false premise. Will you?

What is it you expect me to acknowledge? That somoene who doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside job or "false flag terrorism" started a thread based on the intellectual exercise of coming up with a scenario in which 9/11 might have been an inside job, and now you want to cite that as evidence?

And did you even read what you linked? The scenario wasn't exactly air-tight, as pointed out by other posters in the thread, and it was based on the existence of incredibly complex technology, the use and application of which gets completely glossed over. It wasn't at all researched or supported with real-world science, and I doubt it was meant to be taken very seriously in the first place.

Classic Trutherism 101: Take something out of context, pervert its intent, and then use it as substantiation for your argument. Delusional doesn't even begin to describe the cognitive dissonance on display in that leap of logic.

 

[funk de fino]

All that matters is demonizing and dehumanizing Muslims in general. It didn't matter one bit that the 911 gang weren't Iraqis in order to lubricate the rape of Iraq with their crime. Unfortunately for Muslims they live on top of or near a lot of fossil energy deposits, uncomfortably close to China, Russia and India, rising challengers of US global hegemony.

Not all of them and they are not the only ones. Lots of them live in places with next to zero fossil fuels.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Please provide a citation or link describing this covert false flag terrorist event that only needed 20 people... I'd love to see it.

ive even seen truthers claim as low as 7

of course none of them can explain how 7 people could pull it off, they just say thats why they need a new investigation, lol

 

[tsig]

Wrong. Others have suggested it would take less than 20 people.

Well Bush and Cheney are two who are the other 17?

 

[johnny karate]

Please provide a citation or link describing this covert false flag terrorist event that only needed 20 people... I'd love to see it.

ive even seen truthers claim as low as 7

of course none of them can explain how 7 people could pull it off, they just say thats why they need a new investigation, lol

Which is why I specifically asked JihadJane to provide such a scenario he personally finds plausible. And which of course he won't, adding yet another unsubstantiated claim to a long list of unsubstantiated claims, and further establishing himself as a complete fraud.

 

[Baylor]

Remember that the majority of US soldiers sent to invade Iraq believed they were doing so to avenge the victims of 9/11.

Evidence?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Which is why I specifically asked JihadJane to provide such a scenario he personally finds plausible. And which of course he won't, adding yet another unsubstantiated claim to a long list of unsubstantiated claims, and further establishing himself as a complete fraud.

well to be fair (s)he just said "other have suggested" and those others can (and have) suggested all day, but not provided one viable theory of how it could be done, lol

 

[W.D.Clinger]

A good indicator of the "accuracy of your information would be your statement that "51% of the US public chose Bush in 2000". Even those who accept the fraud in Florida and legitimize the presidency of Bush would acknowledge the FACT that Gore won the overall popular vote. You are just another blowhard who spews disinfo with wreckless abandon and hopes that nobody notices....We all notice champy...

jmh423 is to be congratulated for having caught TruthersLie telling a falsehood. Bush received 50.5 million votes in 2000, not 100 million. Gore received 51 million.

Even with knowledge of those facts, I still don't know why truthers are dangerouse!

 

[johnny karate]

well to be fair (s)he just said "other have suggested" and those others can (and have) suggested all day, but not provided one viable theory of how it could be done, lol

But JihadJane made this assertion while attempting to disprove the necessity of a conspiracy involving a large number of people. Any implausible scenario would fail to do this by virtue of its implausibility. For JihadJane to not be a liar in this particular case, he needs to provide a scenario that both requires less than 20 people and is plausible. Citing a scenario that merely exists leaves the door open for all manner of lizard-people-space-beam theories, and is too stupid a notion to even consider.

 

[funk de fino]

What evidence is there that traitors within the US government like Cheney, Bush & Zakheim were not complicit in the 911 attacks? To the contrary, the evidence certainly suggests that there was inside help from US sources as well as Mossad, ISI, & Saudi Intel. Read:"Solving 911-The Book"

http://www.bollyn.com/solving-9-11-the-book


.....Free On The Web....All the evidence points to the fact that this attack was orchestrated and choreographed by a sophistocated well funded ($billions) international cabal, not a rogue shadowy band of fundementalists. Trillions have been made as a result of these attacks...Follow the money...It is almost always the ones who profit or benifit that are responsible for murders.

You have linked an idiotic anti semite. You have nothing but an anti american bias.

 

[JihadJane]

I see. You get caught blagging, then you get caught lying, and now – without as much as an acknowledgement of either – you want to forget all that and start again like nothing's happened. Well, I bet you do! In light of your seemingly effortless detachment from truth and honesty, what earthly benefit do you think I should see in continuing a normal discussion with you – let alone providing you with free logic tuition?

Do whatever you like, though your moralistic stance could be interpreted a way of avoiding answering a question I have asked you several times.

I'd like to know how your logic relates to the logic implied by the rhetorical question: "Why are truthers dangerous"?

Well Bush and Cheney are two who are the other 17?

What makes you believe that Bush and Cheney were involved?

Please provide a citation or link describing this covert false flag terrorist event that only needed 20 people... I'd love to see it.

Without controlled demolitions (fine by me):

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89351

With demolitions: (also fine by me):

http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/analysis/scenario404.html

Number of operatives unspecified.

Ah yes.... As we all know ALL muslims are the same across countries... cuz one rag head is the same as the next... so we use 19 patsies (from Saudi, the UAE, and lebanon) who are NOT from the country we intended to invade (18 months later... with vastly different intelligence and ample reason to reinvade it). Cuz the it makes perfect sense to use people from different places...

Muslims were the same enough in the minds of enough US Americans to have enabled the US to invade Iraq with no effective US internal political opposition. The delusion still seems potent enough to allow a large number to support the prospect of killing of yet more Muslims in Iran.

Why do you use the terms "rag head" and jooooos"? Do you get a vicarious thrill from your faux racism?

I'm not stating they murdered 3,000 people... you should ask the twoof (of which you are a member) or as a member maybe you should tell a joooooooo that they were part of it. I'd love to see that reaction.

The only people I've ever seen say anything about the "JOOOOOOSSSS" having dunnit have been over-excited people like yourself.

 

[jmh423]

You have linked an idiotic anti semite. You have nothing but an anti american bias.

Chris Bollyn and myself are PRO AMERICAN....Those that you defend are traitors to this country and have disdain for the US Constitution. You are a very confused little man....My condolences...I think Cheney is moving his whole Haliburton operation over your way after bilking the US taxpayers out of 100s of billions in fraudulant no bid contracts...That's the type of "Americans" you support & defend. Theiving Chickenhawk scum..I say they are traitors!! Enjoy your life over there as we don't need any more like you over here...Good riddance to you and Dick!!

 

[johnny karate]

Do whatever you like, though your moralistic stance could be interpreted a way of avoiding answering a question I have asked you several times.

Oh, goodie! It must be Demand a Response Day!

Why don't you start us off, JJ?

Here's just a few posts you've been rather cowardly dodging in this thread:

Rubbish, the Bush talking heads came up with their narrative on the same day as the attacks.

Citation, please.

Wrong. Others have suggested it would take less than 20 people.

Please provide an inside job scenario involving less than 20 people you find plausible.

NO ONE HAS EVER TALKED.

Wrong.

Please name anyone involved in a supposed inside job who has come forward.

Once you respond to these posts (and many others), then maybe you can point out how other people are avoiding your questions without looking like a raging, hypocritical fraud.

 

[johnny karate]

Chris Bollyn and myself are PRO AMERICAN....Those that you defend are traitors to this country and have disdain for the US Constitution. You are a very confused little man....My condolences...I think Cheney is moving his whole Haliburton operation over your way after bilking the US taxpayers out of 100s of billions in fraudulant no bid contracts...That's the type of "Americans" you support & defend. Theiving Chickenhawk scum..I say they are traitors!! Enjoy your life over there as we don't need any more like you over here...Good riddance to you and Dick!!

Can anyone decipher this post? My Crazy-to-English translator is on the fritz.

 

[funk de fino]

Chris Bollyn and myself are PRO AMERICAN....Those that you defend are traitors to this country and have disdain for the US Constitution. You are a very confused little man....My condolences...I think Cheney is moving his whole Haliburton operation over your way after bilking the US taxpayers out of 100s of billions in fraudulant no bid contracts...That's the type of "Americans" you support & defend. Theiving Chickenhawk scum..I say they are traitors!! Enjoy your life over there as we don't need any more like you over here...Good riddance to you and Dick!!

You have no idea what you are talking about. The no bid contracts made piss poor profits thats why they got rid of KBR. I do not support or defend anyone. I am not american and I hate Bush and Cheney but I will pull you up for telling lies and being uninformed.

My life is not where you think it is. You are mixing me up with someone else. The Halliburton operation has already moved headquarters over to Dubai, not very up to date with your false AJ crap are you?