Why the Continued Interest in Bigfoot on This Forum

kitakaze said:
Early in the clip he says we don't find bones for Bigfoot because of the acidic, wet soils of the PNW much in the same way as the scarcity of chimp fossils. Then later in the clip he is arguing for Bigfoot's existence based on the consistency of tracks found all over the North American continent.

Wait a minute, screw acidic PNW soil, we have no remains for a giant animal found all over the continent?
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Or all over the world, for that matter. These comparisons to the scanty fossil evidence for gorillas and chimps drive me nuts. If bigfoot was alleged to occur in forests of equatorial Africa - and no where else - then the example could potentially have some weight. Otherwise no, it has none.
 
Flashback to BFF of 3 years ago. Creekfreak responds to Drew and he goes on to describe "The New Bigfootery"...

Drew on BFF said:
The greatest fear of someone who decides to underwrite a BF study with Public money, is that when the final study is published, all they have is grainy video of a biped, a plaster cast of a footprint, and an account of the encounter by several bigfoot enthusiasts. Of course the study will interpret this as proof positive of said Primate's existence.
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creekfreak to Drew said:
That was then this is now we are the new generation bigfoot researchers we have better equipment and more imformation at our finger tips then the giant minds that came before us . Our chances are so much greater now becouse of all the work from thses people that has been transferd to the public via the internet . Just 20 years ago if this had happened to me I would have never found any imformation on these creature I would have been in the dark and would have probly never even told anyone . We have come a long way now we can run with what we have to work with . We have what we need now its time to step up to bat there have been many strike outs in the past but that just means the home run is geting real close . I have been called a lier by some closed minded people when I have been telling the truth just that fact is motivation enough for me to put a bigfoot up there asses and shut them all up for good . But it is more then that to me this is personal with bigfoot and myself I need to know why he ran from me when I did nothing to prevoke that kind of responce from him . I know inteligence when I see it this creature no dout is very smart . Standing On the shouders of giants my freinds .
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Drew to bigstinkyfoot said:
The thing is, I don't doubt that there is a bigfoot, I don't doubt that you saw one, I just can't rationalize to my self, that your sighting, is proof enough that I can say there is a bigfoot.
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From the thread WHY is the skepticisim so "intense"?, A philosophical question. The thread has lots of banned members and got closed because of bickering. You'll see Huntster duking it out and even Lyndon, Blackdog (mods were deleting his posts), wolftrax and Saskeptic getting it on.
 
The Shrike said:
Or all over the world, for that matter. These comparisons to the scanty fossil evidence for gorillas and chimps drive me nuts. If bigfoot was alleged to occur in forests of equatorial Africa - and no where else - then the example could potentially have some weight. Otherwise no, it has none.
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I kinda gave up discussing this with some people, since they choose to remain ignorant. A certain poster once questioned the "no-bigfoot-fossils-around" line by asking where are the gorilla fossils- just to be informed of the existence of some remains. The person then asked about okapi fossils- just to be reminded of the okapi-like Paleotragus... And the dance goes on and on and on... Gets tiresome and seeing Meldrum doing it once again is, I think, yet another piece of evidence he has a huge soft underbelly when it comes down to his beliefs.

If they want to "win" a debate using the last man standing and endless repetition tactics... Well, to date that's all they can try to do, in the absence of reliable evidence.
 
Correa Neto said:
A certain poster once questioned the "no-bigfoot-fossils-around" line by asking where are the gorilla fossils- just to be informed of the existence of some remains.
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We've got chimp fossils now too.

Somewhere I made a BFF post with reference to Quaternary mammal remains from western North America. I'll try to track that down. The point was that we've got a pretty rich history of remains from western coniferous forests - you know the kind with the soils so acidic that bones can't be preserved.

Of course my favorite nonsensical statement is that we lack bigfoot remains "because bigfoot bury their dead." Oh, well it's a good thing humans don't do this or we'd never have found any of their remains either!
 
The Shrike said:
I'll have to find the thread that got Lyndon banned. It was pretty classic when he called me something . . .not nice.
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Lyndon is here as "carcharodon". He hasn't posted in over a year. His last post got him a yellow card for a personal attack on me. When he was posting here he routinely used a very foul mouth and had an angry sort of hatred for JREF Bigfoot skeptics. He has never been suspended, but I think he accumulated a stack of warnings.


There is an interesting pattern. We see a number of Bigfooters show up in this forum who have been spurned by other pro-Bigfooter type forums. It's sometimes including the most nasty ones who got banned by the Bigfooters. Troublemakers who believe in Bigfoot come to this forum. They can get away with an amazing amount of vitriol and trolling here as long as they don't consistently break the list of rules. The various pro-Bigfooter forums will ban a person simply for being a big jerk... that is if they are the flavor of jerk that the mods do not happen to like.
 
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You should see the continued interest in Bigfoot going on over at PZ Myers' blog. He just put up a YouTube Bigfoot video and the blog is buzzing. I even see a JREF/BFF member "mythusmage" putting in the good word for Bigfoot and the PGF.


mythusmage on Pharyngula said:
Hoaxers would have better luck if they just studied the sparse authentic footage. The Patterson/Gimlin film for example. One thing people keep missing is that Patty does not have a gorilla face. Patty has a very human face. May be the source of the legend that Patty was a man in a suit. (That face might be the source of the legend that sasquatch are descended from neanderthals, though cranial morphology argues against it.)

Whenever the sasquatch/human split occurred, it may have occurred at a time when the basic human face had evolved, which would make the sasquatch a descendent of Australopithecines, or even an early Homo. Though I don't think sasquatch is a member of the genus Homo, but belongs to a new, related genus that split off from Homo very early in our genus' history if it is not an Australopithecine....
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ETA: I see it got heated...

Posted by: PZ Myers | January 18, 2010 10:46 AM

Mythusmage: DO NOT EVER TRY TO PRETEND TO BE ME. That kind of attempt to confuse issues and play identity games will get you banned.
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The Shrike said:
Ah, good times.

I'll have to find the thread that got Lyndon banned. It was pretty classic when he called me something . . .not nice.
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Lyndon has a bit of an issue with that. Him to me in the "Simple Challenge For Bigfoot Supporters" thread...

carcharodon/Lyndon said:
I haven't even been posting here for months but you sure know when you have been beaten in a debate you pathetic faggot.

Nobody 'encouraged' anything. And no 'admins' encouraged me (or anybody else) to go soft on knobheads like you.
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The Shrike said:
We've got chimp fossils now too.

Somewhere I made a BFF post with reference to Quaternary mammal remains from western North America. I'll try to track that down. The point was that we've got a pretty rich history of remains from western coniferous forests - you know the kind with the soils so acidic that bones can't be preserved.

Of course my favorite nonsensical statement is that we lack bigfoot remains "because bigfoot bury their dead." Oh, well it's a good thing humans don't do this or we'd never have found any of their remains either!
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Can't remember if when the last "no fossils" discusions took place chimp fossils had already been found (and published). I guess so, but I'm not sure.

I do recall, however, telling LAL and others countless times that "the soil is too acid" is a bogus line. Fossils, after all, usually are preserved in sediments- not to mention that sometimes in paleossoils too (as desertyeti once reminded). I also more than once had to deal with the "forest animals do not preserve as fossils" line. You may also count the alleged absence of fossils of the right age. Not to mention the "oh, but there are no good fossil sites at PNW of the right age and environment" and the "mountain animals do not fossilize easilly" lines.

Well, I guess people may have the right to remain willingfully ignorant, but not to spread misinformation.

I've been feeling for quite a while like an old whore when it comes down to discussing bigfoot. Footer comes and says "Look at this amazing thing" to what I reply "This ain't nothing new or outstanding, boy... Not even compelling..." And start the routine.
 
Best Bigfooter quote of the new year...

"We're not going to solve the mystery of bigfoot, we're going to talk about it." JayleeD, Bigfoot Forums Administrator
 
The fire! It burns! :flamed:

I have been royally roasted. My goose has been cooked. Along with fellow JREF'ers RSLancastr, Darat and some others, I have taken down to Chinatown on a recent blog, Rule 12 at the JREF Forum.

Atom blog said:
Methinks Kitakaze is not such a bad guy. He seems nice enough. But, dude, what's the obsession with Bigfoot? It's not real. We know it's not real. If there's no evidence for Bigfoot, which there isn't, then WTF are you talking about all the time?

Take a look at all the posts started by Kitakaze. Almost every single one of them is about Bigfoot. I mean, it's one thing to snipe at the occasional Bigfoot idiot who comes passing through, but do you really need to start new threads about it? You've written thousands of posts about Bigfoot and to what ends? You only help perpetuate the myth. If the myth is no fun, it goes away. There's nothing left to be said about Patterson Gimlin film. That played out 40 years ago.

Seriously, dude, shut up already. You're just as bad as the Bigfoot believers. Like Truthers, they just want to talk about Bigfoot because it's fun. You're no different. Free porn is out there. Make use of it. In the meantime, the only response is, "Bring me one, dead or alive, and we'll talk." Do something useful with your life.
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LOL. You got me, I'm plumb crazy and I talk about Bigfoot all the time. It's my thing and I dig it. I even start threads for discussion on the subject. Cheque, please. Monster posts with pictures, videos, links... I do that. We know Bigfoot is not real and the PGF played out 40 years ago. Nobody believes that Bigfoot foo foo at all. It's not like they have museums saying otherwise. It's not like people all over the place are dropping big fat dollar bills with the enticement of seeing Bigfoot.

Kitakaze is making threads about Bigfoot and RSLancastr is talking about his stroke again. Ready, aim, fire.
 
Seriously, dude, shut up already.:duck:
Aren't these the words many a footer would love to say to skeptics?
Sorry, can't resist the urge...
 
He seems to have a problem with you enjoying talking about Bigfoot. I think most people post on topics that they enjoy. I think he enjoys ripping on people who enjoy ripping on things that he doesn't enjoy.
 
And to think Blake, Karen, and Ben are out there doing a show on Bigfoot and ghosts and other monster guano. Don't they know there's free porn out there? They should be "making use of it" and talking to themselves like Atom is, right? :thumbsup: :toiletpap

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Seriously, dude, shut up already. You're just as bad as the Bigfoot believers. Like Truthers, they just want to talk about Bigfoot because it's fun. You're no different. Free porn is out there. Make use of it.
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