My take on it is that some folks would like there to be in existence some form of proto-human to whom they can apportion the blame for all that's wrong with the world.
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Why the Continued Interest in Bigfoot on This Forum
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My take on it is that some folks would like there to be in existence some form of proto-human to whom they can apportion the blame for all that's wrong with the world.
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The Shrike
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No Huntster? That's a shame. I've been meaning to ask if he had any thoughts on the relative amount of funding allocated to SETI and bigfoot.
BTW, the only bet I've ever made regarding bigfoot? If one shows up on a slab, I travel to Alaska to treat Huntster to a prime rib dinner.
HarryHenderson
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Fixed it.
At the risk of appearing to defend both of them, I'm not sure Rock is doing so much hatin' on Huntster as pointing out Hunster's almost famous credulity regarding things Bigfoot. Now, his seeming expertise and savvy 'in the field' in general (hunting?) would seem to be secure, and I'm not sure anyone is debating that specifically, it's just that his mentioned credulity has taken a toll on some who maybe at one time gave him a bit more credit. His passion for it all isn't in question, just his thinking and direction.
And while I'm a bit vague on the actual circumstances, I seem to recall and am almost positive Huntster was banned from the JREF for something completely unrelated to his Bigfoot interest.
The Shrike
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Ah yes, I suppose I should cowboy up under those circumstances and watch Huntster eat his prime rib while I tuck in to a nice piece of iceberg lettuce and gamey Alaskan crow.Fixed it.
Man, I would love to have an excuse to do something this ridiculous. Would somebody in a logging drive please hit a %^$@! bigfoot today?
Correa Neto
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Huntster -as well as some others- came to JREF after LAL called for help from BFF folks to ballance the debate. Every now and then he raised a good discussion point (one had to think about it before countering), but it seems he just can't stand having his points and beliefs being effectively questioned and countered. When this happened, he would quickly loose his temper and start a flame war. Note that he was not the only pro-bigfoot poster with such behavior.
Huntster commited suicide by mod. He deliberately broked the forum laws. Being banned, it seems, would be the only way to keep him away from discussions which were taking too much of his real life's time and blewing one of his gaskets every now and then; just taking a break and leaving a post from one of his opponents unanswered was not an option for him. And this happened not only in bigfoot-related discussions, since he also posted at other sub-forums (fora?) such as Religion and Philosophy.
By the time of his banning, moderation was lighter. Nowadays, he would be banned sooner (the same is valid for some other posters), before reaching the point of commiting suicide by mod, since the tolerance for verbal abbuse decreased a lot.
JREF has a higher degree of tolerance than other places, especially when it comes down to those who defend fringe subjects (of course, a quick visit to the Forum Managament area will show that many a poster consider the rules are too rigid while others think they are too weak). This is made on purpose, as an attempt to avoid claims like "I was censored!". If many of the people who defend bigfeet as real creatures behaved at bigfoot discussion forums (fora?) like they they do here, they would be banned much faster.
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My understanding is that Huntster "got in bother" for too-heated defending of his (conservative) brand of Catholicism, on the Religion & Politics forum.
While applauding JREF's espousing of free speech -- on the whole, in practice as well as in principle; I feel that that particular road is potentially a dangerous one to take on these forums.
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kitakaze
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I miss the days that Huntster was with us. I was sad to see him lemming out of here. He was a grumpy old fart and I liked him. He was never a troll, just a really opinionated guy who had some differing opinions to me. I never followed his pinball in R&P but that was the way he went off the cliff. Too bad.
LTC8K6
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Hmmm...my link expired. Well you can look in public notices and find Huntster's discipline problems...
kitakaze
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idoubtit
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New documentary featuring Meldrum on NatGeo next Sun, Jan 24th
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/bigfoot-4572/Overview
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/bigfoot-4572/Overview
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Regarding Hunster,
From what the members here have linked to, I am not finding things that were deserving of a banning IMO. But of course I may not be getting the entire story. I do not know the guy at all and never even conversed with him on the BFF. He only seemed to be standing up for his religious beliefs and a mob mentality set in. Religious debate can start wars on forums and the real world. I steer clear of them. I have enough problems arguing about a big smelly ape.
William Parcher
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Some of the evidence gets moved to Abandon All Hope. For Huntster it was an accumulation of umpteen warnings. He broke the rules a lot, he had almost no self control, would unleash torrents of personal insults and would constantly cuss. AAH doesn't show up on searches so you have to go digging by hand. I found a few oldies...
Banned vs Banned in the Land of No Hope
Yellow Card
On Marriage
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I remember him from the bff, he and I disagreed on the pro/no kill argument, but I respected his opinion and enjoyed his posts. If he has been banned its just one more nail in the BFF's coffin. Quality posters get banned due to the petty and crappy nature of the modsquad. The current squad truly sucks.
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Calling Huntster a quality poster may be a bit of a stretch. He has no debating skills and tends to throw hissy fits.
kitakaze
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Wow. Those are some brawls there. I've never seen those. You can practially hear glass shattering and chairs breaking reading that.
So why the continued interest in Huntster in this thread?
Wow. Those are some brawls there. I've never seen those. You can practially hear glass shattering and chairs breaking reading that.
So why the continued interest in Huntster in this thread?
As usual, not much else going on in bigfootville.
kitakaze
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Regarding the video clip from your link, Meldrum seems to have missed the inconsistency in his arguments. Early in the clip he says we don't find bones for Bigfoot because of the acidic, wet soils of the PNW much in the same way as the scarcity of chimp fossils. Then later in the clip he is arguing for Bigfoot's existence based on the consistency of tracks found all over the North American continent.
Wait a minute, screw acidic PNW soil, we have no remains for a giant animal found all over the continent?
Near the end of the clip he slaps a couple of flat, foot-shaped pieces of wood to his feet, walks in some soil, and declares that no one would ever be fooled by tracks such as those. Wow, Dr. Meldrum. You're not even going to try? Making the same effort that a hoaxer would to make people think Bigfoot was around is too much of a hassle? Hoaxers couldn't make flexible contoured stomper feet?
That's some nice science there. Just avoid altogether the answers you don't want to find.
