Why should necrophilia be banned?

[Octavo]

There was a typical slippery slope type argument trotted out in the recent incest thread, which I'd like to explore here.

Necrophilia is another one of those horribly "squicky" paraphilia's that people almost universally shudder at and is (as far as I know) pretty much banned everywhere.

But why? There's no issue of consent, there's no possibility of offspring and no one is harmed (except the person doing the *********** possibly).

Imagine for a moment that I'm a necrophiliac and belong to an online community of like-minded weirdos. Perhaps the INF (International Necrophiliacs Forum). I then write a will which explicitly states that after death, my corpse is to be donated to one of my necrophile friends with the explicit direction that he is free to use my corpse for her own carnal pleasures. Should this be allowed?

Why? If not, why not?

 

[cullennz]

Because it is warmer using a pillow.

 

[Meed]

Should this be allowed?

Sure. It doesn't bother me.

 

[LashL]

There's no issue of consent

Sure, there is. The estate administrator or the executor (or whatever term is applied in a particular jurisdiction) has legal control over the bodily remains of the deceased (subject to some exceptions relating to criminal law provisions and such, depending upon the circumstances of the death) and can direct how the bodily remains are to be dealt with (e.g. burial or cremation, etc.) so there most certainly is an issue of consent.

Imagine for a moment that I'm a necrophiliac and belong to an online community of like-minded weirdos. Perhaps the INF (International Necrophiliacs Forum). I then write a will which explicitly states that after death, my corpse is to be donated to one of my necrophile friends with the explicit direction that he is free to use my corpse for her own carnal pleasures. Should this be allowed?

Again, the estate administrator or the executor (or whatever term is applied in a particular jurisdiction) has legal control over the bodily remains of the deceased (subject to some exceptions relating to criminal law provisions and such, depending upon the circumstances of the death) and can direct how the bodily remains are to be dealt with. In most jurisdictions, there are criminal prohibitions against 'indignities to human remains' so no estate administrator or executor would be legally bound by such a provision in a will if it conflicts with other applicable laws.

 

[Caper]

Yuk. Ban.

 

[Cain]

Should this be allowed?

Yes, but you should have included a poll. Always have a poll. Always.

Sure, there is. The estate administrator or the executor (or whatever term is applied in a particular jurisdiction) has legal control over the bodily remains of the deceased (subject to some exceptions relating to criminal law provisions and such) and can direct how the bodily remains are to be dealt with (e.g. burial or cremation, etc.) so there most certainly is an issue of consent.

This is written like a snotty second-year law student. The poster explicitly fabricated a pay it forward scenario where he volunteers his corpse. Yes, earlier he said "there's no issue of consent," but that's presumably a reference to the incest thread (proponents of incest laws almost always argue that consent is not freely given because of power imbalances in family relations).

Again, the estate administrator or the executor (or whatever term is applied in a particular jurisdiction) has legal control over the bodily remains of the deceased (subject to some exceptions relating to criminal law provisions and such) and can direct how the bodily remains are to be dealt with. In most jurisdictions, there are criminal prohibitions against 'indignities to human remains' so no estate administrator or executor would be legally bound by such a provision in a will if it conflicts with other laws.

The argument is that there's no good reason these laws should exist in the first place.

Yuk. Ban.

How easy is it not to **** your dead friend's corpse? That's pretty much all society asks: just don't **** your father or dead bodies.

 

[cullennz]

Can I personally have a point here that if anyone wants to sleep with my dead mother (Who I will proudly say was hot and died too young at 47) they would miss the opportunatey to ever walj again.

 

[MontagK505]

Sure, there is. The estate administrator or the executor (or whatever term is applied in a particular jurisdiction) has legal control over the bodily remains of the deceased (subject to some exceptions relating to criminal law provisions and such, depending upon the circumstances of the death) and can direct how the bodily remains are to be dealt with (e.g. burial or cremation, etc.) so there most certainly is an issue of consent.




Again, the estate administrator or the executor (or whatever term is applied in a particular jurisdiction) has legal control over the bodily remains of the deceased (subject to some exceptions relating to criminal law provisions and such, depending upon the circumstances of the death) and can direct how the bodily remains are to be dealt with. In most jurisdictions, there are criminal prohibitions against 'indignities to human remains' so no estate administrator or executor would be legally bound by such a provision in a will if it conflicts with other applicable laws.

This is all very interesting, but the question in the OP is is this right? Does the state always have a legitimate interest in the disposal your body after you are dead?

 

[The Don]

This is all very interesting, but the question in the OP is is this right? Does the state have a legitimate interest in the disposal your body after you are dead?

I think that necrophilia should be allowed as long as it it with consent. As LashL points out, the executor of the estate provides that consent. I'd also want "hard" consent so that both the deceased would have to state in their will that this is what they want, the executor would have to agree.

I'm not sure about whether the family would have to agree because that may open up the case to challenges from activists with no direct relationship to the deceased.

 

[MontagK505]

Can I personally have a point here that if anyone wants to sleep with my dead mother (Who I will proudly say was hot and died too young at 47) they would miss the opportunatey to ever walj again.

Not everyone will share your opinion of the hotness of your dead mother. And unless you have used very unusual preservation methods a corpse looses it's beauty very quickly. (why is she smiling like that?)

 

[MontagK505]

I think that necrophilia should be allowed as long as it it with consent. As LashL points out, the executor of the estate provides that consent. I'd also want "hard" consent so that both the deceased would have to state in their will that this is what they want, the executor would have to agree.

I'm not sure about whether the family would have to agree because that may open up the case to challenges from activists with no direct relationship to the deceased.

I've heard of cases where a body stays in the morgue while family members fight over where the deceased gets buried. Do they get buried next to the 1st spouse, 2nd spouse, 3rd spouse 4th etc etc.

 

[MontagK505]

Yuk. Ban.

It could be worse, suppose his friends are cannibals? (pass the mustard will you)

 

[Octavo]

Again, the estate administrator or the executor (or whatever term is applied in a particular jurisdiction) has legal control over the bodily remains of the deceased (subject to some exceptions relating to criminal law provisions and such, depending upon the circumstances of the death) and can direct how the bodily remains are to be dealt with. In most jurisdictions, there are criminal prohibitions against 'indignities to human remains' so no estate administrator or executor would be legally bound by such a provision in a will if it conflicts with other applicable laws.

Very well, modify the hypothetical to include that the "friend" to whom I'm donating my corpse is also named as the executor of my estate. Included in my will are at least 3 letters from qualified psychiatrists indicating that I am of sound mind, not under any controlling influence and am otherwise mentally stable.

Yes, but you should have included a poll. Always have a poll. Always.

Dammit, I KNEW I should have added a poll!! My humblest apologies Cain

The argument is that there's no good reason these laws should exist in the first place.

Quite. In fact I started the thread because I agree that incest between consenting adults is no business but their own, however when considering the necrophilia question, the squickiness factor rises to full-on vomit-inducing nausea.

How easy is it not to **** your dead friend's corpse? That's pretty much all society asks: just don't **** your father or dead bodies.

LOL. How easy is it to not **** your dead father?

 

[Caper]

I think that necrophilia should be allowed as long as it it with consent. As LashL points out, the executor of the estate provides that consent. I'd also want "hard" consent so that both the deceased would have to state in their will that this is what they want, the executor would have to agree.

I'm not sure about whether the family would have to agree because that may open up the case to challenges from activists with no direct relationship to the deceased.

Could you imagine sitting out on your step and you look over and your neighbour is dragging a smelly old corpse into his house.

 

[MontagK505]

There was a typical slippery slope type argument trotted out in the recent incest thread, which I'd like to explore here.

Necrophilia is another one of those horribly "squicky" paraphilia's that people almost universally shudder at and is (as far as I know) pretty much banned everywhere.

But why? There's no issue of consent, there's no possibility of offspring and no one is harmed (except the person doing the *********** possibly).

Imagine for a moment that I'm a necrophiliac and belong to an online community of like-minded weirdos. Perhaps the INF (International Necrophiliacs Forum). I then write a will which explicitly states that after death, my corpse is to be donated to one of my necrophile friends with the explicit direction that he is free to use my corpse for her own carnal pleasures. Should this be allowed?

Why? If not, why not?

Other than health hazards and rapid deterioration with use, I see no objective difference from using a adult sex doll made from your body cast. They are both non living.

This could be a fun thread.

 

[Caper]

I wonder if there is legit necrophilia porn floating around out there.

 

[Caper]

Could you marry the corpse?

 

[MontagK505]

I wonder if there is legit necrophilia porn floating around out there.

It would be easy to do with CGI. You could also create a porn site devoted to zombie sex. Remember, zombies are supposed to be dead even if they walk **** around.

 

[angrysoba]

Could you imagine sitting out on your step and you look over and your neighbour is dragging a smelly old corpse into his house.

That's not how I envisage necrophiliac courting.

 

[MontagK505]

Could you marry the corpse?

Well, that does raise the question of consent. In the US, you usually have to ask someone before you marry them. (I don't know about Canada ) You could get their consent before they die.