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Why Elizabeth Warren doesn't need to take a DNA test

fuelair said:
I have faith that Bob would bravely take up that challenge!!!!!
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ddt said:
And not even that. Those commercial DNA tests are imperfect to say it politely, as has been discussed in the other thread. There are no conclusive markers in your DNA that say "German" or "Scottish" or "Native American".

They're no replacement for actual genealogical research, you know: track down birth certificates, marriage certificates etc. from your ancestors. And even that's not perfect: while your legal father is the husband of your legal (and biological) mother, your biological father may, in fact, have been the milkman, or a Native American your mother had an affair with and told no-one about.
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Also, it doesn't change the fact that someone would tell you about their 1/32nd piece of heritage is probably a pain in the butt.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Also, it doesn't change the fact that someone would tell you about their 1/32nd piece of heritage is probably a pain in the butt.
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I get a parse error halfway trying to read your sentence. What exactly is it that you think is "probably a pain in the butt"?

Also, what's the connection between my post and that of fuelair?
 
ddt said:
I get a parse error halfway trying to read your sentence. What exactly is it that you think is "probably a pain in the butt"?

Also, what's the connection between my post and that of fuelair?
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I have no idea how it double quoted like that. Weird.

I was calling people who tell you about their 1/32 of their heritage pains in the butt.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I was calling people who tell you about their 1/32 of their heritage pains in the butt.
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When they're standing on the streetcorner and announcing it with a bulllhorn, yes. When they do so incessantly even after I've told them I'm not interested, yes. When they do so once or twice at a family gathering or other social occasion, no.

There is no evidence that Elizabeth Warren did any of that.

Distracted1 said:
https://www.dar.org
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:thumbsup:

I had to click that link to see where it went. Incidentally, "DAR" is the name of my city's waste collection and recycling agency.
 
ddt said:
And not even that. Those commercial DNA tests are imperfect to say it politely, as has been discussed in the other thread. There are no conclusive markers in your DNA that say "German" or "Scottish" or "Native American".

They're no replacement for actual genealogical research, you know: track down birth certificates, marriage certificates etc. from your ancestors. And even that's not perfect: while your legal father is the husband of your legal (and biological) mother, your biological father may, in fact, have been the milkman, or a Native American your mother had an affair with and told no-one about.
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My genealogical research has an example of the highlighted. The family story has been that we are entirely of English & Scottish descent and available documentation didn't say otherwise. But a few years ago I located third great grandfather Charles Plumb's gravestone and what do I find, he was Carlos not Charles. Carlos was almost certainly neither English or Scottish https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/27048777
 
ddt said:
I think the more pressing issue is if Donald Trump's biological father is not, in fact, an orangutan. Bill Maher had a quite credible point there. Trump's skin color, his shown intelligence, and his incessant flinging of poo all point to that. And you wouldn't even need a DNA test: with a decent microscope you can see how many and which chromosomes he has.
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I resent your insulting tone. Orangutans are, by nature, gentle and without guile..... and they aren't pathological liars.
 
smartcooky said:
I resent your insulting tone. Orangutans are, by nature, gentle and without guile..... and they aren't pathological liars.
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A fair point, the fact that they bear some resemblance to the orange nut-cake is probably not their fault (though obviously I have no knowledge of who might have impregnated it's mother).
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
When are you taking your DNA test?
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Interestingly, I have taken the test. My wife and I got in back when 23andme was only a hundred bucks and included inappropriate medical advice.

I was extremely dissapointed with how boring my results were
 
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BobTheCoward said:
About her genetic heritage? No.

About her willingness to take a test link this? I do.
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If you found yourself falsely accused of a crime, and was offered a chance to take a lie detector test (of which the results would be made known to the jury, regardless of outcome)
Do you think your attorney would advise that you do so?

If not, why not?
 
I wouldn't. Lie detector tests are in the mind of the administrator, and they can make the test give any result they wanted. I'd ask them to read my horoscope instead.
 
Distracted1 said:
If you found yourself falsely accused of a crime, and was offered a chance to take a lie detector test (of which the results would be made known to the jury, regardless of outcome)
Do you think your attorney would advise that you do so?

If not, why not?
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Once it moves into the realm of mattering, then everything changes. If a genetic test mattered, I wouldn't care about her decision not to take one.
 
Silly Green Monkey said:
I wouldn't. Lie detector tests are in the mind of the administrator, and they can make the test give any result they wanted. I'd ask them to read my horoscope instead.
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And, I found out many years ago that I could lie successfully on a lie detector test. Why I do not fear them under either circumstance.
 
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