I would like to touch upon the issue of Hell again. Let me ask atheists a question:
Say you were a parent who gave their child STRICT rules of what not to do. Now imagine they disobey you. Do you punish them? Ofcourse you do! A loving parent always punishes children when they are wrong so they will learn. How can a loving God NOT send people to Hell?
The fact is God is our parent and has given us STRICT laws to follow. If we disobey Him we MUST face punishment.
Say you were a parent who gave their child STRICT rules of what not to do. Now imagine they disobey you. Do you punish them? Ofcourse you do! A loving parent always punishes children when they are wrong so they will learn. How can a loving God NOT send people to Hell?
The fact is God is our parent and has given us STRICT laws to follow. If we disobey Him we MUST face punishment.
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1inChrist said:
The difference is--I exist. God does not.
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1inChrist said:
Well, I'm typing this. I must exist.
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You still don't get it. You come here with your god and your damnations and your hellfire. You have to prove god exists. Not the other way around.
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That still doesn't explain why the Holocaust happened. Or the Inquisition, where countless people ( Quite a lot of whom, ferverently believed in your God) were tortured and killed in His name.
Why would God let that happen?
For that matter, why would God 'let' a child die, while their parents refused medical help, because they believed that doctors were a sign of someone's non-faith in God's healing powers?
Why would they be punished, if they were doing what they thought God wanted them to do?
Why would God let that happen?
For that matter, why would God 'let' a child die, while their parents refused medical help, because they believed that doctors were a sign of someone's non-faith in God's healing powers?
Why would they be punished, if they were doing what they thought God wanted them to do?
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1inChrist said:
I find that statement quite ironic, given that you are always telling us who we are and what we are feeling.
I know only what you post. Judging from your posts, you are a savage who believes in a vicious evil bogeyman.1inChrist said:
It is possible that you are lying and trolling. The chance that you are merely misunderstood, however, is looking pretty small.
Perhaps you'd like to offer a better explanation of your behavior?
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Hi 1inC,
Your parenting analogy is very interesting.
Think of your own daughters and the distress you experience just at the thought of them being in pain. Can you imagine that you would withhold "eternal reward" from them for some finite error they made? How would they learn if the punishment never stopped? That would be like grounding a child for life because they broke curfew once.
Can you imagine your anger at them, your inability to forgive, ever outweighing your love?
Probably not.
Pity that your god is a less forgiving father than you.
Your parenting analogy is very interesting.
Think of your own daughters and the distress you experience just at the thought of them being in pain. Can you imagine that you would withhold "eternal reward" from them for some finite error they made? How would they learn if the punishment never stopped? That would be like grounding a child for life because they broke curfew once.
Can you imagine your anger at them, your inability to forgive, ever outweighing your love?
Probably not.
Pity that your god is a less forgiving father than you.
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1inChrist said:
As a parent, you certainly should know that the strictest of punishments is not punishment for punishment's sake, but a lesson. Such lessons most often are for the ultimate safety and well-being of the child. For example, when your child runs into the road without looking, a scolding becomes a lesson that such is dangerous behavior.
Tell me, if that punishment were never to end, what ultimate well-being is served by it?
No, your god doesn't use punishment as a parent would. Your god uses the threat of eternal punishment as a means of control. A rather ineffective means, if you ask me.