Why don't you believe in Hell?

[Z]

Go ahead and refute his findings.

OK - Hmm... No further evidence of this extraordinary claim from him. He reports a single, isolated incident. Inconclusive sample size, I'd say. Ah, and no control group, either. Plus - no double-blinding.

Well, that was easy.

 

[Operaider]

That is not funny. God is NOT imaginable. You cannot compare a child's friendship with an imaginary friend to my relationship with God because there is one little difference..........I am an adult!

To bad that's the only difference

 

[1inChrist]

Perhaps your God should write a clear sentence. It's not that hard. Hell, you even manage it every once in a while.

This is typical atheist ignorance. You say you do not understand the Bible? What does this say and YOUR thinking skills? The Bible is not that hard to understand if you are open to it's message. I could understand that it would be hard for a materialist fundamentalist to read the Bible and give it a chance because if what you read is true your whole materialistic worldview is crushed.

Prove it. Prove that I will show a complete lack of evidence of the emotion of joy. I bet I effervesce.

I knew you relied on scientists to tell you how to think but do you really need a scientist to tell you why swimming in a Lake of Fire would be extremely painful?

 

[1inChrist]

To bad that's the only difference

Well I doubt a child actually believes his imaginary friend exists, that's another BIG difference.

 

[Cosmo]

I knew you relied on scientists to tell you how to think but do you really need a scientist to tell you why swimming in a Lake of Fire would be extremely painful?

If you're already dead or if you lack a body entirely, how would it be painful? Seems like you could swim in fire all day if you wanted to.

 

[geni]

I knew you relied on scientists to tell you how to think but do you really need a scientist to tell you why swimming in a Lake of Fire would be extremely painful?

well If you calculate the tempreture from the data given in the bible heaven is a lot hotter than hell.

 

[c4ts]

Except of course Fnord is mearly a symbolic represntation of the real word. I wIn argument by extream nit picklyness

Ha! You pink boys wish you could win the debate. I spend my accumulated slack on time control to access the beforelife and win the debate before the universe cosmollifies, hence my smug attitude and personal flying saucer!

Argument by Subgenius.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

This is typical atheist ignorance. You say you do not understand the Bible? What does this say and YOUR thinking skills? The Bible is not that hard to understand if you are open to it's message. I could understand that it would be hard for a materialist fundamentalist to read the Bible and give it a chance because if what you read is true your whole materialistic worldview is crushed.

I understood it fully. I understand that it's full of contradictions, but that if your God could write a clear sentence, it'd make things, well, clear.

I also understand that given the right amount of drugs, it all makes perfect sense.

I knew you relied on scientists to tell you how to think but do you really need a scientist to tell you why swimming in a Lake of Fire would be extremely painful?

It'll hurt for a bit. But nerve endings don't survive long. Then I get to effervesce. Unless you have contrary evidence?

 

[1inChrist]

And how might I go about letting him guide my comprehension, as you say? How can I contact him? Does he have a chain of offices, or an entry in the phone book?

Repeat this:

God please guide me as I read your Word.

Now, pick up a Bible and start reading it. You will be amazed.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Well I doubt a child actually believes his imaginary friend exists, that's another BIG difference.

Heh.


Heh.


And, lest I forget to mention it, heh.

 

[Z]

Seems to me - if what PrimedeChrispy said is true, then God is a sick, sadistic bastard - and I'll stand in the Pit with Lucifer before I'll bow to Gawd.

First he makes Man with free will. Being omniscient, he KNOWS Man will sin.

Then he makes a place of eternal torment to punish man ETERNALLY for a FINITE sin.

Then he sets up a protection racket - 'Do what I say or burn in HELL forever."

Sorry, Dean, but me and Sammy are gonna go spring Jerry and leave this racket.

 

[Z]

Ha! You pink boys wish you could win the debate. I spend my accumulated slack on time control to access the beforelife and win the debate before the universe cosmollifies, hence my smug attitude and personal flying saucer!

Argument by Subgenius.

Ooooh - very nice. Almost makes me want a hot dog.

 

[Lisa Simpson]

Repeat this:

God please guide me as I read your Word.

Now, pick up a Bible and start reading it. You will be amazed.

Why didn't you tell us before this is a cult with souper seekrit magic words.

 

[Operaider]

Well I doubt a child actually believes his imaginary friend exists, that's another BIG difference.

So the only difference between you believing in God and a child having an imaginary friend is that

1. You are older than the child

2. The child has enough sense to not really believe in an invisible man. Where as you do not.

I think You've made some good points here 1 in C. I really do

 

[Cosmo]

Repeat this:

God please guide me as I read your Word.

Now, pick up a Bible and start reading it. You will be amazed.

That's it? I've done that a number of times before, at the suggestion of some theistic acquaintances. Nothing happened then, and I bet you nothing will happen if I did it again.

Besides, I don't have a bible.

PS - I assume it has to be the KJV? What if I read a different version - no help from the holy ghost then, or what?

 

[1inChrist]

So an allegorical claim by a single person is evidence? My god, someone tell that to all these researchers!!

I bet you believe in homeopathy too, don't you?

Can you tell me what that is? I know I've heard the word but I forget what it is.

translated: Maybe you should try letting others think for you instead of trying to think for yourself.

I only answer to Him. As for letting others think for yourself I agree, you should stop letting scientists think for you.

Well, folks, that about sums up organized religion...

No.

Actually, if eternal torment just means Lake of Fire forever, I have a feeling I'll get pretty numb to the whole burning experience after a while. Either Hell gets some variety, or the Damned are just the Briefly Inconvenienced.

Nope. The pain is eternal, you never go numb.

On the other hand, spending eternity playing yes-man sycophant to a major egomaniac doesn't sound like much fun, either.

Your view of God is totally wrong. I feel sorry you don't bath in His Glory.

Thanks - I'll take option C) Oblivion to either of these choices.

Can't be. It's one or the other.

 

[Z]

Repeat this:

God please guide me as I read your Word.

Now, pick up a Bible and start reading it. You will be amazed.

Tried it once. Conclusion: a) God hates me, deeply and personally, 'cuz He didn't guide me one iota; or b) the whole Bible thing is a scam.

Funny, though, when I asked God to guide me, years ago, in my search for truth, the first book that literally fell into my lap was the Tao Te Ching.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

That's it? I've done that a number of times before, at the suggestion of some theistic acquaintances. Nothing happened then, and I bet you nothing will happen if I did it again.

Psst...for a nominal fee, I can get you in touch with someone who can hook you up with some Patmos mushrooms. They'll make the Bible crystal clear.

 

[Cosmo]

Psst...for a nominal fee, I can get you in touch with someone who can hook you up with some Patmos mushrooms. They'll make the Bible crystal clear.

So that's what 1inC has been using? And to think, I've been missing out all this time...

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Can you tell me what that is? I know I've heard the word but I forget what it is.

"Homeopathy" is the path that homeosexuals take. It's a seekrit code word they use for corrupting "normal" kids into their homeofascist machinations.