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Who'll be the Dem's VP nominee?

dudalb said:
The laws on US Citizenship are quite clear;If one of your parents is a legal US Citizen, you are a natural born US Citizen regardless of where you were born.
The Natural BOrn kerfulfle is over somebody who is born in the US but whose citizens are NOT US Citizens. The COnsitutiion is vague on that point.
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You got that the wrong way round. If you’re born on US soil then it is clear; if you are born abroad then it can get more complicated.
 
newyorkguy said:
They would make a great and dynamic team, get this country moving again in the right direction. It may be a long shot but remember, they laughed when Donald Trump announced his candidacy. I like Ed's odds.
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For men of a certain age, putting them next to big giant letters that spell ED has a very specific meaning. Now take a look at that photo again.
 
DuvalHMFIC said:
VP is tricky. I can't really recall anyone ever placing their vote based on who the VP was. However, I know people can be turned OFF by a VP. Palin certainly comes to mind.
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VP candidates do tend to affect the vote positively for the ticket in their home states. Look at the last election, for example. In indiana, where VP Pence hailed from, the Republican ticket won by 19 percentage points, 21 percentage points better than they did nationally. In 2012, Indiana was only 14 percentage points more Republican than the nation. So you could argue that Pence added 7% to Trump's margin of victory in that state.

Do the same for Tim Kaine. In 2016, Virginia was 3 percentage points more likely to vote for the Democratic ticket than the nation did. In 2012? Virginia went for Obama by 4 percentage points, the same as the country did. So Kaine netted an extra 3 percentage points for Clinton in the Old Dominion.

Now you can quibble a bit about how meaningful a few elections are, but I did this for all the non-sitting VP candidates since 2000; in addtion to Pence and Kaine that's Ryan in 2012, Palin and Biden in 2008, Edwards in 2004 and Cheney and Lieberman in 2000. Every single one of them came up as improving their party's fortune in their home state as compared to the prior election, on average by about 7 percentage points.
 
Brainster said:
VP candidates do tend to affect the vote positively for the ticket in their home states. Look at the last election, for example. In indiana, where VP Pence hailed from, the Republican ticket won by 19 percentage points, 21 percentage points better than they did nationally. In 2012, Indiana was only 14 percentage points more Republican than the nation. So you could argue that Pence added 7% to Trump's margin of victory in that state.

Do the same for Tim Kaine. In 2016, Virginia was 3 percentage points more likely to vote for the Democratic ticket than the nation did. In 2012? Virginia went for Obama by 4 percentage points, the same as the country did. So Kaine netted an extra 3 percentage points for Clinton in the Old Dominion.

Now you can quibble a bit about how meaningful a few elections are, but I did this for all the non-sitting VP candidates since 2000; in addtion to Pence and Kaine that's Ryan in 2012, Palin and Biden in 2008, Edwards in 2004 and Cheney and Lieberman in 2000. Every single one of them came up as improving their party's fortune in their home state as compared to the prior election, on average by about 7 percentage points.
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Maybe Andrew Gillum could be a good pick for either Biden or Sanders. He would bring in some progressive cred for Biden, would probably be on board for Sanders’s Medicare for all, brings some diversity and may boost the chances of either one in Florida.

Or, maybe Beto could come back and put Texas in play.
 
Trebuchet said:
I've thought of that. But Biden/Beto gives you two white Catholic men. Not gonna happen .
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Julian Castro solves one third of that problem.

ETA: Based on Brainsters analysis, you really don't want to waste that extra vote on a state you are already going to carry.
 
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Dr. Keith said:
Julian Castro solves one third of that problem.

ETA: Based on Brainsters analysis, you really don't want to waste that extra vote on a state you are already going to carry.
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Castro also endorsed Warren so that could be a problem.
 
I was thinking that if Biden picks an Obama for VP, I would love to see Trumps reaction!
 
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