Who started both World Wars?

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keeps up the kosher idea of a happy multicultural idylle, that does not exist.

Hmmm no multicultural 'idylle'. I grew up in Hawaii.

It was paradise, it is multicultural, 9/11 is a crank! LOL boy that was easy

I like his mistake about chicken tikka marsala - so it was created in England, LOL more egg on 9/11 face

So foreign foods are bad huh? So I guess 'we', speaking of the Netherlands have to get rid of Spaghetti, potatoes, chinese, Japanese all that good stuff - er, why 9/11 - does everyone have to eat what their grandfathers eat or its some sort of Jewish plot?

Just more crazy talk from our beloved unknower of history and now an unknower of culture....
 
Got to love the foot-shooters at the BNP. From the link provided by the Lying Dutchman:

Anyway, utilising the BNP method of statistical analysis, the ethinicity of British schoolchildren will hardly be much of a concern in a world where a third of the world's population are Elvis impersonators.

OMG, gareth has found a minor glitch and thinks he has debunked the core of the message. On a positive note, gareth thinks that it does not make a difference what the ethnic composition of Britain is. That is exactly what we Europeans from Brest to Wladiwostok want the Brits to believe. The more immigrants to Britain the better. A centuries old problem will solve itself.

The BNP are Nazis, right? Anybody is in your neobolshevik ideology who refuses to give his native lands away, right? And if Hitler says that 2 + 2 = 4, than that is wrong, because Hitler said so.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1563191/UK-cities-to-have-white-minorities-in-30-years.html

Telegraph Nazi newspaper?

"Several cities are set to have a white minority within the next few years. This in itself is not a negative thing. The issue here is not one of percentages or numbers. What does matter is how well people interact."
:D

Have a look at present day Detroit, the former 'Paris of the Americas', to see whether it is a negative thing or not if whites become a minority.

You got that right about interaction, silly Brit. And the 'interaction' sooner or later becomes Yugoslav style, Ruanda style, Zimbabwe style, Biafra style, Sudan style, Palestine style, Northern Island style, Tamil Tiger style, Iraq style, etc., etc. Multiethnic entities suck as history proves time and time again. But those people suck most who try to sell us the desastrous idea of these 'proposition nations' in the first place.

Meanwhile this is what intelligent Americans are contemplating. Most of these states mentioned are rather white, but that fact is not mentioned, not yet. Won't be long.

Time works for us...
 
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OMG, gareth has found a minor glitch and thinks he has debunked the core of the message. On a positive note, gareth thinks that it does not make a difference what the ethnic composition of Britain is. That is exactly what we Europeans from Brest to Wladiwostok want the Brits to believe. The more immigrants to Britain the better. A centuries old problem will solve itself.

The BNP are Nazis, right? Anybody is in your neobolshevik ideology who refuses to give his native lands away, right? And if Hitler says that 2 + 2 = 4, than that is wrong, because Hitler said so.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1563191/UK-cities-to-have-white-minorities-in-30-years.html

Telegraph Nazi newspaper?

:D

The Torygraph is not a Nazi newspaper. It is a right wing and conservative newspaper with a long and proud history of xenophobia. It's nowhere near as bad as the Daily Mail or the Daily Express but it consistently pushes the message "oh noes ! brown people"

Examining that article in detail, it says that 4 cities will have minority white populations within the next 30 years. Of course whites will be the largest single group in each of these cities and these cities are not typical of the nation as a whole.

The author is not alarmed however, here are a few quotes from the article

While he was reluctant to make forecasts for other cities, Prof Simpson said talk of "tipping points" in many cities was simply "fanciful".

So no need to panic Mr Mainwaring

Thirty-five towns and cities had at least one council ward which was "minority white".

....and yet the sky hasn't fallen in and the streets have not run with Rivers of Blood.


And yes I know, the phrase isn't in the speech


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Going back to the OP, the Germans started it. Basil Fawlty is never wrong
 
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I like his mistake about chicken tikka marsala - so it was created in England, LOL more egg on 9/11 face

There is still some debate, a Glasgow restaurant has also claimed responsibility. Perhaps it's safer to say that the CTM is a British innovation.
 
This is starting to make me hungry...

Finally something useful comes out of this waste of bytes

Hey wait a minutes so if nations aren't multi-cultural then all is peace and happiness?

Nope

Care to look at the endless civil wars in 'pure' nations? What no? Gosh why am I surprized....
 
I'm starting to feel embarrassed for 9-11. Every single "argument" pulverized, and shown to be a liar on so many points.

What do you say, 9-11? Perhaps a retreat back to codoh were everyone's a Nazi is in order?
 
Going back to the OP, the Germans started it. Basil Fawlty is never wrong

So for you Poland is equal to the world?

Quite a statement for a representative of a nation that itself stampeded into 25% of the planet's territory without knocking in the years before 1939.

You are aware that the people of Danzig for 97% wanted to return to the Reich?

Now if Chamberlain after the war himself confided to Joseph Kennedy that he was forced into the war by 'World Jews', what are we to think of that? Poland was a power merely of local significance. Britain in contrast a world class empire (present day Britain is not a shadow of it's former self). Would you not agree that if Britain with it's world empire declares war against Germany that it is Britain rather than Germany who started WW2?

Success and thanks in advance.
 
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So for you Poland is equal to the world?

Are you being deliberately dense? The German invasion of Poland started WWII. It's not rocket science.

Quite a statement for a representative of a nation that itself stampeded into 25% of the planet's territory without knocking in the years before 1939.

British colonialism isn't on the agenda. If you want to discuss the moral implications of colonialism (British, German, French, Dutch etc.) start another thread.

You are aware that the people of Danzig for 97% wanted to return to the Reich?

Which is why they voted against it?

Now if Chamberlain after the war himself confided to Joseph Kennedy that he was forced into the war by 'World Jews', what are we to think of that? Poland was a power merely of local significance. Britain in contrast a world class empire (present day Britain is not a shadow of it's former self). Would you not agree that if Britain with it's world empire declares war against Germany that it is Britain rather than Germany who started WW2?

No, Germany started the war by invading Poland. It was the Nazis.

Success and thanks in advance.

Success? Well if your aim for this thread was to make a complete fool of yourself and demonstrate your lack of historical knowledge, it is indeed a success.
 
Even more detailed information how the Jews brought the US both in WW1 and WW2.

Blackmail of Wilson. As a consequence Brandeis became the first jewish member Supreme Court.

Justice Brandeis volunteered his opinion to President Wilson that the sinking of the S.S. Sussex by a German submarine in the English Channel with the loss of lives of United States citizens justified the declaration of war against Germany by the United States.

This advice was based on the British promise to hand over Palestine to the Jews in case America could be brought into WW1 on the side of Britain:

The declaration of war against Germany by the United States guaranteed the Talmudists throughout the world that Palestine was to be turned over to them upon the defeat of Germany. The defeat of Germany was certain if the United States could be railroaded into the war in Europe as Great Britain's ally. Prior to the October 1916 London Agreement, Talmudists throughout the world were pro-German.

Britain's position was desperate:

Great Britain was helpless in October 1916. It was seriously considering surrender to Germany. Germany had made several peace offers to Great Britain earlier to discontinue the war.

Here Churchill pretends publicly not to understand why the US entered WW1:

In referring to the declaration of war against Germany by the United States, Sir Winston Churchill said in an interview with a prominent editor, published in Scribner's Commentator in 1936, that he "could never understand why he put us in in 1917," referring to President Wilson.

In that interview Sir Winston Churchill stated further: ''America should have minded her own business and stayed out of the World War. If you hadn't entered the war the Allies would have made peace with Germany in the spring of 1917. Had we made peace there would have been no collapse of Russia followed by Communism, no breakdown in Italy followed by Fascism, and Germany would not have signed the Versailles Treaty, which has enthroned Nazism in Germany.

It was Churchill himself who connected the rise of Nazism with Versailles.

But again we get confirmation that the European war turned into a world war because Britain engaged in a deal with the Jews about Palestine versus American war entry. America was already under Jewish control in 1914.
 
No, Germany started the war by invading Poland. It was the Nazis.

Britain started the Falkland's war because they saw the Malvines as theirs. Now if America and/or Russia had come to the aid of Argentina then you could have said that America and/or Russia had started a world war and not Britain.

Danzig same thing. The Germans saw the German town Danzig as theirs that was taken from them in the Versailles dictat and they decided to take it back. In fact the Germans had more right on Danzig then the British on the Malvines, would you not agree? So the Germans took it back by defeating the Polish army just like Britain took back the Malvines by defeating the Argentine army.

Not that difficult.

But then the British started to interfere and declared war on Germany. They started WW2.
 
Even more detailed information how the Jews brought the US both in WW1 and WW2.

Blackmail of Wilson. As a consequence Brandeis became the first jewish member Supreme Court.



This advice was based on the British promise to hand over Palestine to the Jews in case America could be brought into WW1 on the side of Britain:



Britain's position was desperate:



Here Churchill pretends publicly not to understand why the US entered WW1:



It was Churchill himself who connected the rise of Nazism with Versailles.

But again we get confirmation that the European war turned into a world war because Britain engaged in a deal with the Jews about Palestine versus American war entry. America was already under Jewish control in 1914.

If you want to make any headway in this discussion you'd better start presenting sources that aren't obviously anti-semitic propaganda sites. As it is now, you're proselytizing hate, and you won't get many listeners to that.
 
Britain started the Falkland's war because they saw the Malvines as theirs.

No, Argentina started the Falklands war. Yet another conflict you know nothing about.

Now if America and/or Russia had come to the aid of Argentina then you could have said that America and/or Russia had started a world war and not Britain.

No, if a world war had erupted from the Falklands war, it would have been Argentina who started it. Seriously, learn some history. And basic logic.

Danzig same thing. The Germans saw the German town Danzig as theirs that was taken from them in the Versailles dictat and they decided to take it back.

And in the process they took and kept all of Poland except the parts where they invited the Soviets to occupy. Doesn't it rub you the wrong way that your heroes the Nazis brought the Soviets into Europe?

In fact the Germans had more right on Danzig then the British on the Malvines, would you not agree?

Definitely not. Poland had more claims on Gdansk than Germany. As it happened, it wasn't a Polish city. It was a city administered by the League of Nations.

So the Germans took it back by defeating the Polish army just like Britain took back the Malvines by defeating the Argentine army.

They took the Free City of Danzig from the League of Nations and took the rest of Poland from the Polish people, except for the parts they gave to the Bolsheviks.

Not that difficult.

Since you keep getting it wrong, and you got it wrong once again, apparently it's difficult for Nazis.

But then the British started to interfere and declared war on Germany. They started WW2.

No, Germany started WWII by invading Poland.
 
If you want to make any headway in this discussion you'd better start presenting sources that aren't obviously anti-semitic propaganda sites. As it is now, you're proselytizing hate, and you won't get many listeners to that.

Translation: uke2se probably agrees with the content or has nothing to say against it. Hence he lables the content as 'hate'.

Childish. This too easy.

FYI: I am not interested in getting 'many listeners'. I am interested in practicing debating neo-bolshies, Anglos and other enemies of European Civilization (you) in order to efficiently defeat them.
 
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Translation: uke2se probably agrees with the content or has nothing to say against it. Hence he lables the content as 'hate'.

No, I label it as hate because that's what it is. Are you ever going to use sources that aren't anti-semitic websites?

Childish. This too easy.

If it was too easy, you would be in a better position in this argument. As it is, all your "arguments" have been thoroughly crushed and your attempts to hand wave facts contradicting your opinions have been noted and pointed out. It seems you're now attempting to reuse old debunked arguments, basically steering the discussion in a circle. Well, that's not going to work either. I renew my suggestion that you retreat back to codoh and think things over. Clearly the approach you're currently taking, lying through your teeth and denying everything that contradicts you, isn't working.

FYI: I am not interested in getting 'many listeners'. I am interested in practicing debating neo-bolshies, Anglos and other enemies of European Civilization (you) in order to efficiently defeat them.

Well, you aren't debating any of those. First off, you're not debating at all. You're spewing hatred and misinformed opinions. Secondly, Anglos are from Germanic stock. Thirdly, I don't think any of the people on my side of the argument are "neo-bolshies" or enemies of European civilization. If anything, you, being a neo-Nazi, is an enemy of said civilization.
 
No, Argentina started the Falklands war. Yet another conflict you know nothing about.

You mean, they invaded the islands for the South-Argentinian coast without hardly any defense from the British worth mentioning? We all know that the British consider territory in all 4 corners of the globe as their indispensible Lebensraum, but I, the identitarian, am less impressed with this display of greed. The Malvinas have no business of being part of Britain (neither has Gibraltar, Scotland, Northern Ireland and a host of other territories).

But OK, Argentina took the Malvinas that officially were British.
Britain/France took the German town Danzig from Germany in Versailles.

Britain decides to take the Malvinas back in a war.
Germany decides to take Danzig back in a war.

Britain defeats Argentinian army and takes Malvinas back.
USSR (80%) + USA (15%) + UK (5%) defeat Germany and divide Europe amongst themselves for their Lebensraum.

No, if a world war had erupted from the Falklands war, it would have been Argentina who started it. Seriously, learn some history. And basic logic.

I am sorry I have to explain your own language to you, but starting a world war means undertaking action to ensure that parties all over the globe will be at war with each other. Now nobody claims that Hitler was looking for a war with anybody except Poland when he invaded Poland. I am aware that hysterical Anglos like to accuse the Germans that they wanted to invade the USA, South-America, Antarctica, etc. But serious people will confirm that Hitler was anxious that his actions in Poland would not lead to a wider conflict. It were the 'World Jews' (words of Chamberlain) who pushed Britain in the war declaration and hence into world war. The war party around Churchill (Focus) obviously was well aware that American Jews would ensure that eventually America would join the war. Buchanan rightfully places the British war garantee and subsequent war declaration in the center of the events of WW2. 'World Jews', via their proxy Britain, started WW2 with the aim to destroy Europe and take it's predominant place.

And in the process they took and kept all of Poland except the parts where they invited the Soviets to occupy. Doesn't it rub you the wrong way that your heroes the Nazis brought the Soviets into Europe?

Not a bad remark. But it only brought the Soviets in the eastern half of Poland. In fact the situation before 1914 had returned: there had been no Poland then and that was never considered problematic. But I am sure that we will agree that the Germans never intended to let the Soviets take over Europe. This cannot be said of the Anglo's, who agreed in handing over half of Europe to the Soviets in Jalta. The Jews and their Anglo serfs wanted to see Europe destroyed and take it's place and if it took an alliance with mass murdering Soviets, so be it. That is why we still have an historic bill open with Britain, to be paid after the coming Soviet style demise of America.

Definitely not. Poland had more claims on Gdansk than Germany. As it happened, it wasn't a Polish city. It was a city administered by the League of Nations.

But not justified claims. The Anglos sanctimoniously professed their belief in self-determination, except of course for Germany. Some differences apply. Danzig itself wanted back to the Reich. Nobody denies that. End of story.

They took the Free City of Danzig from the League of Nations and took the rest of Poland from the Polish people, except for the parts they gave to the Bolsheviks.

'Free City' is ridiculous. Danzig did not want to be a 'free city'. Danzig was ripped off from Germany in Versailles with the intent of cripling Germany and cutting it off from East-Prussia. Not even Weimar had abandoned it's claim on Danzig (and even Posen, that in contrast Hitler was willing of recognising as Polish in exchange for Danzig and corridor).

By declaring war on Germany, Britain and in the background the US, prepared for the intentional destruction of Europe in order to take it's place. This was not wanted by Germany, but it was wanted by Anglosphere. Hence did Britain ('World Jews') start WW2.
 
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No, I label it as hate because that's what it is. Are you ever going to use sources that aren't anti-semitic websites?

Picture Reykjavik/Ieland, world championship chess tournament between Karpov and Kasparov. At some point Karpov makes a clever move and Kasparov, in despair, cries... but, but... this is not chess, this is hate! :D

This is how uke2se behaves. He refuses to argue, because, you see, 'I cannot argue with hate'. A child can look through this silly kind of argumentations. The real reason of course why uke2se refuses to engage in a debate is that he has no arguments.

If it was too easy, you would be in a better position in this argument. As it is, all your "arguments" have been thoroughly crushed and your attempts to hand wave facts contradicting your opinions have been noted and pointed out.

More self-gratulation and breaking the rule that in real life references by yourself and mum do not count.

Well, you aren't debating any of those. First off, you're not debating at all. You're spewing hatred and misinformed opinions. Secondly, Anglos are from Germanic stock. Thirdly, I don't think any of the people on my side of the argument are "neo-bolshies" or enemies of European civilization. If anything, you, being a neo-Nazi, is an enemy of said civilization.

I consider British as half European. They are partly Germanic, but also Kelt and Pict and what have you. They are the smallest people in Europe and we have discussed their IQ before.

If you de facto want to hand over Europe to third worlders (like you do with your anti-racism creed), than you are by definition an enemy of Europe.
 
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You mean, they invaded the islands for the South-Argentinian coast without hardly any defense from the British worth mentioning? We all know that the British consider territory in all 4 corners of the globe as their indispensible Lebensraum, but I, the identitarian, am less impressed with this display of greed. The Malvinas have no business of being part of Britain (neither has Gibraltar, Scotland, Northern Ireland and a host of other territories).

You don't get to decide what land belongs to whom. The Falklands were British sovereign territory. Argentina invaded.

But OK, Argentina took the Malvinas that officially were British.
Britain/France took the German town Danzig from Germany in Versailles.

Yes. Germany lost the city because they lost a war. Has been like that for thousands of years.

Britain decides to take the Malvinas back in a war.
Germany decides to take Danzig back in a war.

If they had stopped with Danzig, you might have had a point. They didn't. They took the rest of Poland as well. For your analogy to work, Britain would have to have invaded and kept Argentina. They didn't, so your analogy is flawed.

Britain defeats Argentinian army and takes Malvinas back.
USSR (80%) + USA (15%) + UK (5%) defeat Germany and divide Europe amongst themselves for their Lebensraum.

Wrong. Europe was divided into spheres of influence. The western part kept their cultures and sovereignty intact. The eastern parts kept their cultures but became serf states to the USSR, the nation the Nazis were first to invite into Europe.

I am sorry I have to explain your own language to you, but starting a world war means undertaking action to ensure that parties all over the globe will be at war with each other.

It's not my language. I'm still not British, no matter how badly you need me to be. Let me educate you in how things work, though:

A conflict is also called a war. A conflict is started when the first shot is fired. The second world war in Europe started with the invasion of Poland by Nazi Germany. When the British and French honored their agreement with Poland, the war escalated into a global war. It was still started with the invasion of Poland. Is this still too difficult for you?

Now nobody claims that Hitler was looking for a war with anybody except Poland when he invaded Poland. I am aware that hysterical Anglos like to accuse the Germans that they wanted to invade the USA, South-America, Antarctica, etc. But serious people will confirm that Hitler was anxious that his actions in Poland would not lead to a wider conflict.

Yet. He had plans to invade the Soviet Union for additional lebensraum, as has already been shown.

It were the 'World Jews' (words of Chamberlain) who pushed Britain in the war declaration and hence into world war.

Wrong. No matter what quote from Chamberlain you have managed to invent, it was not the Jews. It was the honoring of an agreement with Poland and the desire to stop the mad hound in Germany once and for all that prompted Britain to declare war.

The war party around Churchill (Focus) obviously was well aware that American Jews would ensure that eventually America would join the war.

Jews had nothing to do with it.

Buchanan rightfully places the British war garantee and subsequent war declaration in the center of the events of WW2. 'World Jews', via their proxy Britain, started WW2 with the aim to destroy Europe and take it's predominant place.

Degenerate lies.

Not a bad remark. But it only brought the Soviets in the eastern half of Poland.

It brought them as far into Europe as the got after the war.

In fact the situation before 1914 had returned: there had been no Poland then and that was never considered problematic.

There was no Poland because Prussia had already invaded and conquered the territory. History was repeating itself in 1939, but this time aggression was defeated rather quickly in comparison.

But I am sure that we will agree that the Germans never intended to let the Soviets take over Europe.

Nor did anyone else in the West. You might have heard about a little something called the Cold War. I wouldn't be surprised if you hadn't, though.

This cannot be said of the Anglo's, who agreed in handing over half of Europe to the Soviets in Jalta.

Given the position of the Soviet forces after the end of the war that the Nazis started, the Western allies didn't have the forces, nor the force of will to prolong the war any further. Not that there weren't people who wanted to. Churchill, the person you hate so much, wanted to continue the war and push the Soviets back. The US general Patton offered similar requests.

The Jews and their Anglo serfs wanted to see Europe destroyed and take it's place and if it took an alliance with mass murdering Soviets, so be it.

Europe wasn't destroyed, and the Jews had nothing to do with anything.

That is why we still have an historic bill open with Britain, to be paid after the coming Soviet style demise of America.

What the hell are you rambling about?

But not justified claims.

Just as justified as Polish claims on Danzig were, and more so than German claims on the same city.

The Anglos sanctimoniously professed their belief in self-determination, except of course for Germany.

Wrong.

Some differences apply. Danzig itself wanted back to the Reich. Nobody denies that. End of story.

I deny that. You haven't shown it to be true, so I have no reason to believe you, as you have been known to lie a lot. What has been shown is that the majority of the German population in Danzig wanted to be reincorporated, and that the Nazi party had majority rule in the parliament. Your claim that 97% favored reincorporation seems to be just another figure you pulled out of your rear end.

Fact remains that Nazi Germany didn't stop with Danzig. They invaded and kept the rest of Poland, and invited the Soviets to pick up the scraps.

'Free City' is ridiculous.

No it isn't.

Danzig did not want to be a 'free city'.

Prove it.

Danzig was ripped off from Germany in Versailles with the intent of cripling Germany and cutting it off from East-Prussia.

Actually, Poland wanted the city as it was historically theirs. This was deemed to be too harsh on the mainly German population, so it was determined it was to be a Free City governed by the League of Nations. Reasonably so.

Not even Weimar had abandoned it's claim on Danzig (and even Posen, that in contrast Hitler was willing of recognising as Polish in exchange for Danzig and corridor).

Lots of nations has claims on land belonging to other nations. Invading a nation is still not considered acceptable. It wasn't for the Argentinians and it wasn't for the Germans.

By declaring war on Germany, Britain and in the background the US, prepared for the destruction of Europe.

Delusions.

This was not wanted by Germany, but it was wanted by Anglosphere. Hence did Britain ('World Jews') start WW2.

More delusions. Bring it on. It's making you look insane.
 
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