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Where to for the GOP after this election?

Which direction will the GOP move after the 2012 election?

  • I am a Republican / Conservative, and I think the GOP will drift further to the right

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • I am a Republican / Conservative, and I think the GOP will stay about the same

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I am a Republican / Conservative, and I think the GOP will move more toward the center

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • I am a Democrat / Liberal, and I think the GOP will drift further to the right

    Votes: 21 63.6%

  • I am a Democrat / Liberal, and I think the GOP will stay about the same

    Votes: 4 12.1%

  • I am a Democrat / Liberal, and I think the GOP will move more toward the center

    Votes: 5 15.2%
  • Total voters
    33
AlBell said:
You could throw your hat in the ring. Hmm. Maybe not; I don't recall you ever compromising.
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I'm not a Republican and have no interest in running for office as a Republican.

But your characterizing me (the arguer and not the argument in this topic, BTW) as someone who opposes compromise is just plain silly.
 
Brainster said:
It is indeed troubling to me that the GOP is not cruising to victory this time around with the wind at their backs. I attribute it to the essential conservatism of the American people. Conservative in the sense that they are not looking for dramatic change unless they feel it is absolutely necessary.
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I attribute it to the fact that they've got a terrible candidate.
 
malicus said:
ETA: Does this explain how much Romney struggles to get his message across and appeal to this range of voters? His base, the. Rep base is contracting? I still think he is very much taking one for the team.
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Romney struggles to get his message across because he has so many messages, most of which contradict each other. In fact, Romney's base isn't the Republican party, it's people with Multiple Personality Disorder. One voter said that every one of his personalities will be voting for Romney. Polls show that Romney has a 700% lead over Obama amongst people with Multiple Personality Disorder.
 
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UNLoVedRebel said:
Romney struggles to get his message across because he has so many messages, most of which contradict each other.
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IOW: Whatever message will seem to work for the moment. I can't name a single principled stand Romney has ever taken.
 
This year, the national Republican party still seems like the party for straight white men. I believe that in the future, this will change. Anti-gay prejudice is becoming less acceptable as more and more of us have friends or family members who are openly gay. I believe that the Republicans will reach out to Hispanics and find ways to be more appealing to that demographic--anyone who looks at the numbers can see that they must do that or fade into insignificance, and I don't think they will let that happen. Maybe they'll even make their people shut up about rape and birth control, so that they won't alienate so many women.
 
RandFan said:
IOW: Whatever message will seem to work for the moment. I can't name a single principled stand Romney has ever taken.
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Just one: refusal to release those 1040s. That we can trust him on! (The not releasing them, I mean, not their forbidden contents of secret mystery. Who knows what enigmas lie unrevealed therein? Are mortal minds meant to know?)
 
Current trending/evidence points toward the middle Republicans not yet exerting themselves to gain re-control of the party. I think they will eventually. I just don't see any current evidence of that yet.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Just one: refusal to release those 1040s. That we can trust him on! (The not releasing them, I mean, not their forbidden contents of secret mystery. Who knows what enigmas lie unrevealed therein? Are mortal minds meant to know?)
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And the principle is? Me first? Ayn Rand business model? :confused:
 
Social conservatism is a troglodytes ideology with no redeeming value. Republicans are really betting the barn if they think "values voters" will win elections forever.

I think the Republican party could capture a large chunk of the center if they could just ditch the social conservatism entirely. Democrats would be unstoppable if they could win a large fraction of economic centrists.
 
Post Reagan, the biggest winners have had 53% of the popular vote. There hasn't been a landslide, and there won't be one this time.

So I can see how important the fringe voters are.

The question is, which piece of the fringe should each party go after? My feeling is that the conservatives are a bigger piece of the right than the socialistics are of the left. The only course I can see for the repubs is to dump the whackos far right and pander to something a bit more centrist. My thinking is that what would the TPers do? Vote Demo? Not a chance. Maybe there is something so far Left it's almost Right?

Perot's Independent Party was the biggest spoiler in history, costing GHW and Dole. Food for thought?
 
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