What to do is Loose Change is released to theatres

[pdoherty76]

You haven't paid much attention to Dylan and his scam artist friends. They have repeatedly said that they intentionally left errors (lies) in LC in order to get people to do their own research. This is patently false as it would make no sense to put false material in a film when someone would be just as likely to investigate valid statements. Valid statements would have the benefit of not turning away a truth seeker. If they knowingly put false info in their film, why do you trust them and have any faith that their next version will 100% correct? The truth of the matter is that the Three Stooges simply vacuumed CTs from the Internet and packaged a film to make money. The debunking exposures forced them to water down each successive version of LC. Claiming that they intentionally left the errors in is a way to save face. Also, they truly don't know what is false in their film. That's why members of the trio say that they don't endorse everything in LC, but you can't pin them down as to what is wrong.

The only way for the film to avoid errors (lies?) is to use the talking heads they interviewed and make insinuations. If they don't actually make accusations, they can't be proven wrong as they never really said anything.

if they truly dont know what is false then it isnt a lie

 

[pdoherty76]

"We know there are errors in the documentary, and we’ve actually left them in there so that people discredit us and do the research for themselves."
– Korey Rowe
http://tinyurl.com/qruh7

Is pdoherty76 Korey Rowe? He does the same thing with his posts!

and u call us paranoid?

ive been accused of being three diffent people so far, i cant be all of them

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

and u call us paranoid?

ive been accused of being three diffent people so far, i cant be all of them

First, he was obviously making the comment in jest. I think you have a problem perceiving reality.

Second, paranoid would be thinking that you live in my medicine cabinet and come out to piss in my toothpaste when I leave the house.

Speculating that you might be the sock puppet of a better known twoofer is not unreasonable given the history of twoofer antics.

 

[pdoherty76]

Second, paranoid would be thinking that you live in my medicine cabinet and come out to piss in my toothpaste when I leave the house.

u have a very narrow definition of paranoia lol

 

[LashL]

if they truly dont know what is false then it isnt a lie

If they truly don't know what is false, they have no business touting their crap video as a "documentary".

Given the glaring and obvious distortions, manipulations, doctoring, spin, quote mining, etc. that comprises the entirety of their crap video, they have even less business touting it as a "documentary".

 

[pdoherty76]

If they truly don't know what is false, they have no business touting their crap video as a "documentary".

Given the glaring and obvious distortions, manipulations, doctoring, spin, quote mining, etc. that comprises the entirety of their crap video, they have even less business touting it as a "documentary".

for such a crap video it promotes a lot of discussion from you people. if u dont like it dont watch it, and dont keep mentioning it so that other people do watch it.

As for "they have no business" touting it as a documentary, i yet again point out that they are free citizens and can do what they please.

Why dont u spend ur time discussing some videos u do like? ill start us off, i really liked the wicker man

 

[LashL]

That said, I sincerely doubt that studios are beating down their doors for the chance to scoop up loose change. Since it is comprised of little more than unsubstantiated, non-researched, non-fact-checked, stale and subsequently disproven crap, why would any studio pay for it? Especially when a studio could produce their own version for next to nothing, and make it a lot slicker, if they were interested in nothing but unsubstantiated, non-researched, non fact checked, stale and subsequently disproven crap.

Think about it. Why would any studio pay for the rights to loose change when they could produce something equally bad for for next to nothing?

 

[VBU2C5]

From what I read on one of the threads on the final cut of "Loose Change" it will deal more with governments past injustices and false flag operations to lend credence to the fact that their whole ludricous theory is plausible.

You know when I was little ( long time ago ) they used to show shorts, that is short films like the 3 stooges or Disney type shorts before movies. Hmmm perhaps we could lobby to have a certain South Park episode shown before this movie!

 

[pdoherty76]

That said, I sincerely doubt that studios are beating down their doors for the chance to scoop up loose change. Since it is comprised of little more than unsubstantiated, non-researched, non-fact-checked, stale and subsequently disproven crap, why would any studio pay for it? Especially when a studio could produce their own version for next to nothing, and make it a lot slicker, if they were interested in nothing but unsubstantiated, non-researched, non fact checked, stale and subsequently disproven crap.

Think about it. Why would any studio pay for the rights to loose change when they could produce something equally bad for for next to nothing?

studios are out to make money, they dont give a toss what its about if it will make a profit. Non accurate conspiracy films have been released before such as JFK.

Also, they cant make their own version of it because then they couldnt call it loose change and the loose change "brand" is now vary famous.

If i owned a film studio I would give them 10 million quid up front because you can guarantee this film would sell out on word of mouth

 

[LashL]

for such a crap video it promotes a lot of discussion from you people. if u dont like it dont watch it, and dont keep mentioning it so that other people do watch it.

As for "they have no business" touting it as a documentary, i yet again point out that they are free citizens and can do what they please.

Why dont u spend ur time discussing some videos u do like? ill start us off, i really liked the wicker man

Do you really not understand my post or are you just pretending to have no clue?

Do you really not comprehend what is wrong with touting a video as a documentary if they truly don't know what is false, and given the glaring and obvious distortions, manipulations, doctoring, spin, quote mining, etc. that are evident in it?

Do you really have so little ability to carry on a rational, adult, discussion that all you can do is avoid the actual points of discussion and try to deflect the conversation with irrelevant questions, non sequiturs, and such?

 

[pdoherty76]

Do you really not understand my post or are you just pretending to have no clue?

Do you really not comprehend what is wrong with touting a video as a documentary if they truly don't know what is false, and given the glaring and obvious distortions, manipulations, doctoring, spin, quote mining, etc. that are evident in it?

Do you really have so little ability to carry on a rational, adult, discussion that all you can do is avoid the actual points of discussion and try to deflect the conversation with irrelevant questions, non sequiturs, and such?

so u claim they dont have a right to put out spin? Well why arent u complaining at all the spin the government puts out through its "spin doctors" that it actually employs to spin things?

The disclaimer in loose change tells people to NOT accept the video as fact but do their own research! People here like research dont they? and these boys are advocating movie watchers to do research

I cant see what they have done wrong. And if its true that the new video is more history based then you debunkers are in trouble cos i bet it will be watertight.

I saw an interview they did this year with a ground zero hero who is now on oxygen and dying from several lung complaints. The guy was in the national guard and he thinks it was an inside job. Its the most powerful peice of video i have ever seen. If they include that then theyare doing a duty

 

[LashL]

studios are out to make money, they dont give a toss what its about if it will make a profit. Non accurate conspiracy films have been released before such as JFK.

Also, they cant make their own version of it because then they couldnt call it loose change and the loose change "brand" is now vary famous.

If i owned a film studio I would give them 10 million quid up front because you can guarantee this film would sell out on word of mouth

No studio is going to pay any significant amount of money for the rights to loose change when they could easily produce their own, much better, version for next to nothing.

The title means nothing. A studio can hype their own production under whatever title they choose just as effectively as the loose change title, precisely because the video is so poorly done.

If you did actually own a film studio, you would be smart enough not to buy the loose change video for five quid, never mind 10 million quid. And you'd be smart enough to know that the video hasn't even been able to sell out in some two bit theatre when it was offered for free, never mind charging for it.

 

[LashL]

so u claim they dont have a right to put out spin? Well why arent u complaining at all the spin the government puts out through its "spin doctors" that it actually employs to spin things?

The disclaimer in loose change tells people to NOT accept the video as fact but do their own research! People here like research dont they? and these boys are advocating movie watchers to do research

I cant see what they have done wrong. And if its true that the new video is more history based then you debunkers are in trouble cos i bet it will be watertight.

I saw an interview they did this year with a ground zero hero who is now on oxygen and dying from several lung complaints. The guy was in the national guard and he thinks it was an inside job. Its the most powerful peice of video i have ever seen. If they include that then theyare doing a duty

I see that you are still playing games and trying to deflect the conversation from what it actually is to what you would like it to be.

I, on the other hand, will stick to the conversation and will ask you again:

Do you really not understand my post or are you just pretending to have no clue?

Do you really not comprehend what is wrong with touting a video as a documentary if they truly don't know what is false, and given the glaring and obvious distortions, manipulations, doctoring, spin, quote mining, etc. that are evident in it?

Do you really have so little ability to carry on a rational, adult, discussion that all you can do is avoid the actual points of discussion and try to deflect the conversation with irrelevant questions, non sequiturs, and such?

Once you address the actual discussion at hand, we can move on to the deflections that you keep trying to inject.

 

[pdoherty76]

I see that you are still playing games and trying to deflect the conversation from what it actually is to what you would like it to be.

I, on the other hand, will stick to the conversation and will ask you again:

Do you really not understand my post or are you just pretending to have no clue?

Do you really not comprehend what is wrong with touting a video as a documentary if they truly don't know what is false, and given the glaring and obvious distortions, manipulations, doctoring, spin, quote mining, etc. that are evident in it?

Do you really have so little ability to carry on a rational, adult, discussion that all you can do is avoid the actual points of discussion and try to deflect the conversation with irrelevant questions, non sequiturs, and such?

Once you address the actual discussion at hand, we can move on to the deflections that you keep trying to inject.

rough translation: you cant answer any of my points because you dont have answers

 

[LashL]

I'll check back tomorrow to see if you've been able to actually address the conversation instead of obfuscating, but I have to say that based on what I've seen so far, I do not hold out much hope.

 

[pdoherty76]

i answered ur questions, it is not my fault u didnt like the answers. come back whenever u please but my answers will still be the same. if you choose to run away then thats up to u

 

[LashL]

rough translation: you cant answer any of my points because you dont have answers

Nonsense. It's all there in black and white, and it is obvious that you have been unable or unwilling to actually address the conversation.

You might be able to fool the gullible on other forums with such nonsense, but you're not fooling anyone here.

I'll check back tomorrow, but based on your posts so far, I do not have high expectations that you are able or willing to actually follow or carry on a discussion or debate in a proper fashion. In fact, I have seen no indication that you have even the most rudimentary knowledge or capacity to carry on a legitimate discussion or debate. I hope you prove me wrong. But I won't be holding my breath.

 

[LashL]

i answered ur questions, it is not my fault u didnt like the answers. come back whenever u please but my answers will still be the same. if you choose to run away then thats up to u

No, you didn't answer my questions. Go back and read the conversation again. Try to comprehend it this time.

And for the third time, I'll check back tomorrow.

 

[ghost707]

rough translation: you cant answer any of my points because you dont have answers

No, what he is trying to say is that the "documentary" is such a an embarrasment to logical thinking that no one will touch it - studios already know there is no profit in it.

Also pdoherty, you might want to use the actual English language in it's complete and correct form while trying to convince people of your point of view.
Using "u" in short for "you" and "i" for "I" leads people to believe you are a teenager in a chat room.

 

[pdoherty76]

i answered ur points and u didnt answer any of mine. tomorrow the points will still remain answeres so there will be no change.

the fact is, when ur out of ur comfort zone of demanding "evidence" from people and u have to have a conversation based on opinions u poo ur panties

I have given u my opinion of why loose change isnt wrong and what i have said is perfectly valid. If you cant respond to my points then dont, do u really think i care?

stop being obsessed by loose change. Its a crap film but theres nothing u can do about it and if u gave a toss about free speech you would be backing the loose change crew. Can you imagine how much they are gloating about ur obsession with their joke of a film? I often think its people like u that are driving them to keep making films