What is wrong with what Steorn is doing?

There may be a lot of people on this forum who know a lot more about Steorn and their approach to science than me. In fact, I feel quite sure. Hopefully, those people will start the necessary debates on this matter.



I also feel quite sure about this: I do not take them serious at all. Or relevant.

In the music business they would be called posers.
 
It isn't about discussing what Steorn is doing.

It is solely about what evidence they can produce.

So far, there is no evidence to discuss. There is only posture. From Steorn, from desperate believers such as T'ai Chi.
 
Ho Hum

Dec 1 announcement, as they had pre-advised, was that they've signed up their scientists, all of whom are brilliant and from respected institutions, but none of whom are named.

They say testing should commence in the new year.

:popcorn2 :popcorn2
 
For anyone based in or around London: Steorn have an event on Tuesday 12th December.
Sean McCarthy, CEO of revolutionary Irish technology company, Steorn, will be presenting Steorn's new technology that produces free, clean and constant energy.
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For some reason it's taking place in an art gallery.
 
A little back-pedalling

Apparently what was going to be a "demonstration" is now a "presentation".

"One final comment (I am away for a long weekend with wife and kids). Yes we where planning a presentation on the history of OU and a quick demo at the new kinetic meseum in London on Tuesday. This was going to be done quitely because we really like the idea of Kinetica. However this is now a presentation only for obvious reasons.

have a good one,

Sean"
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The groupie element on their forum website were all a-twitter and booking flights or transportation, but a number of them raised the exact same question as Mojo: "An art museum????"
 
However this is now a presentation only for obvious reasons.
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Did he say what the "obvious reasons" for not demonstrating the device were?

I can think of one. ;)
 
Mojo said:
Did he say what the "obvious reasons" for not demonstrating the device were?

I can think of one. ;)
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I found a posting by Sean about five days ago saying he would be incommunicado until the new year, having essentially given all the assurances that he intended to give (of not being a scam). He and the family were going to take a break..... The gallery showing was supposed to be non-publicized (they never announced it on the Steorn site and still haven't, formally) for some reason. Now with this PR mis-step, he's been posting all over his forum, IMHO, trying to do some damage control.

Apparently he was going to demo the "thing" as a surprise, but now there's some conspiracy/subterfuge crap going down.....

Posted by Steorn(Sean) 11 pm 09 Dec GMT
Hi WP, we where planning to do a demo, on the sly to the few unsuspecting folks there and catch thier impressions as part of the documentary. However the event is now a lot more public and we have recently got the attention of several wackos (outside of any of Padds silly stuff). Hence it is now just a presentation.

Sean
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Apparently "PADD" is a forumite who's purportedly trying to extort money or shares or something out of them. (More on that in a separate post, as I just read through it and it's worthy of one.)

Methinks he was using the art gallery crowd to convince a few more potential luminaries/supporters. The PR firm handling Steorn is also involved in the gallery, so the link between the two is explicable.

Curiouser and curiouser...... :spjimlad: :spjimlad:

@Billy Joe - someone on their forums suggested that just that - Sean'd better take protection because someone's liable to conk him on the head and steal the "thing".
 
Steorn Being Extorted

In the ongoing soap opera, As The Magnet Turns, it seems someone managed to do a Dr. Evil on Professor Moriarity as he's awakened in 2006 and plans to take over the world by extorting "THREE THOUSAND POUNDS.... BWOOAHAHAH!.......... Or he will reveal all!

Yes, three THOUSAND. Not three billion.... nor even three million or three hundred thousand..... Why do I see Robert Wagner in my mind's eye, grimacing as he announces the number?

The latest link is here http://www.steorn.net/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=30401&page=1 Evidently Dr. Evil has pictures that he feels can expose something.

There's an earlier thread here: http://www.steorn.net/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=30141&page=1

This is really hysterical. Some clown is pulling their chain or totally deranged and they post it in public? This would be like Randi or Jeff getting an email threatening something ridiculous in exchange for ten copies of the TAM4 DVD's and then posting here. They'd just laugh it off and ignore it, or turn the idiot into the cops.

:spjimlad: :spjimlad: :spjimlad:
 
Sounds like a plot device to me. After all, where would any decent pr adventure be without the dark arch nemesis lurking in the shadows threatening to sabotage our heros' wonder device?

And how convenient he foils our heros' earnest intention to give the first demonstration of this device?

Could it be that the 'wackos' he speaks of are rational scientists, who would indeed foil Steorn's plans, but not by bonking him on the head and running off with his machine....?

I'm reminded of Uri Geller on the tonight show, when his psychic powers mysteriously vanished when Johnny Carson offered him a spoon he hadn't seen before.
 
You don't suppose that people that patronize an art gallery would have a fair amount of disposable income, do you? Do you think they'd be interested in an investment opportunity?

No, Steorn isn't looking for investment, is it?
 
Relax, guys.

Steorn took a couple of pages out of any marketing buff's book:
Create a ruckus.
Stir curiousity.
Serve the cake as slowly as possible. (In this case: Over months, surely years.)

Sooner or later, and you better bet on "very much later", the will have to reveal something more than fluffed cream or sweet icing. By then, they will most likely have achieved more than their goals and could even admit to failure.

It's a clever marketing stunt. So far: Very well played.
 
Mojo said:
Steorn thought nobody would notice?
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Yup! See the message above I posted from Sean McCarthy. They intended to slip into town and do a presentation and maybe catch some astonished (I believe the Brits would call it "gobsmacked") reactions on tape.

@Gzuz.... Absolutely right. Even the cynics and skeptics on their own forum are lauding the PR lady (I don't know her name), and evidently that same person is connected to Kinetica gallery.
 
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