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What about this crop circle?

Tricky said:
If it is on topic and not a personal attack or bickering, it should be fine. But just making a joke about crop circles is not necessarily on topic.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Tricky
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Wait a second--this is clearly an example of the intervention of one of those archetypes from our collective unconscious. He calls himself "Tricky", but that is surely just another name for "the Trickster".

I think this hypothesis makes so much more sense than the mundane explanation that Tricky is just the userid of a forum moderator trying to maintain a lively but civil discussion.
;)
 
Stray Cat said:
My point wasn't circlemakers enjoy having people doing a lot of unnecessary work though, just that the level of work put into examining and publicising a circle attracts an audience. As the number of circles per year is quite consistent with several factors, public interest in them being one, it follows that the audience is essential for the majority of circlemakers and therefore any interest it gets from researchers is, on the whole welcomed.
But yes, broadly you are correct it was a slight generalisation and there are clear examples of people making circles for various other reasons.
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I think the point we discussed earlier also supports the idea that at least many circle makers are playing with their audience. That is, that the subject matter of some of them are tailored for the UFO crowd.

Again, I think the best comparison is something like Andy Kaufman's edgier comedy--where part of the performance art was pulling of various hoaxes that played into and with the prejudices of some segment of his audience. (Really, many wrestling fans in Memphis bought it hook, line and sinker and truly hated him--and that was part of what he intended.)
 
Barring unforeseen circumstances, tomorrow I am going to join a group to visit a crop circle! I will faithfully report any mysterious vibrations, telepathic messages from aliens or misty shapes drifting around.
 
Fnord said:
All those photos are interesting, but the alleged space aliens are nowhere to be seen. Where are they, and why aren't they in the photographs too?
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They are painfully shy aliens from the planet Bashful in the Reticent galaxy.
 
Limbo said:
You talk with a great deal of authority about making crop circles, and I have a right to know why. If you won't answer straight questions then I'm done with you.
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What are your qualifications in this field? How many crop circles have you made?
 
Limbo said:
I don't believe in alien races.




Crop circles are not a new art form. The earliest mention of a crop circle dates back to the 1500s. Crop circles are probably far older than that.

A Crop Circle Maker Speaks

"Previously at this blog I have commented on the Crop Circle-making activities of a good friend of mine in the UK named Matthew Williams. As Matt’s views on the issue of Crop Circles have constantly been distorted by those who wish to see him as a mere “hoaxer,” I figured it was time to clarify for people what Matt really thinks about Crop Circles.

In an interview with Matt, here’s what he told me:

“I believe that the human Circle makers may be guided by a connection to a higher intelligence, a gestalt or group mind; and the symbols that are put down are deep-routed subconscious expressions. This would explain why some telepaths or psychics claim to have seen Crop Circle designs before they appear – because we are all dialed into the same group-mind ‘internet.’

“The synchronistic events which happen each year in the unfolding designs that the Circle makers come out with are often remarked as being too much of a coincidence. Circle designs have been repeated in different parts of the country by teams who didn’t share designs beforehand. There have even been teams who have gone out on the same night to the same field, made designs, not knowing the other team was present, and their designs have had similarities. The chances of this happening, without planning, are slim; so it would appear that something paranormal is working for the Circle makers.

“Why is it that Circles have power? I know that crop is a living medium. Unlike any other type of canvas that an artist may use, crop has a life-force energy which, when used on such a large scale, makes crops blend natural Earth-energy magic with human-energy magic. What Crop Circle makers may have rediscovered is the ancient art of natural magic – working with large emblems as part of the energy system of the Earth.”

Indeed, we should not dismiss the human circle-makers. People like Matt are not fakers or hoaxers. Rather, they are, perhaps ironically, the key to understanding the Crop Circle puzzle and its relationship to us."
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What a load of bollocks.
 
Limbo said:
Heh. I'll take that as a yes. :p

The one for Shredded Wheat says it took a 'back breaking' 14 hours. Does that seem a little long to you?

And that's with no time-consuming artistic extras and intricacies added on by hand. Just stomp-stomp-stomp.

How large is the night-time window of opportunity for trespassing artists, if they don't want to get caught? How close to the target field do they park their car(s)? Do they worry about leaving traces behind? I mean what if they have to poop? Fourteen hours is a long time.

Ah, just one more thing. When they make circles for the media and businesses, do they have porta-potties on the scene? Do they have a food truck?

Fourteen hours. Huh. The other links don't say how long they took, I would like to know. I would also like close-up photos.
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I live in the country in Belgium.I like taking long walks.It's very liberating to take a dump in a field,communing with nature and all that.
 
Limbo said:
If I've ignored something someone said it's because they are on my ignore list. I have a rather large ignore list.

Sometimes I read a post here and there by people on my ignore list, to see if they still piss me off. If they don't, sometimes I take them off ignore.

Yup, you still do. :p
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A very mature attitude,the discussion will whiz along.
 
Limbo said:
I acknowledge that humans make paranormal and non-paranormal crop circles. I acknowledge that humans make paranormal UFOs too. By psychically projecting unconscious archetypal material from the mind onto matter, in a mind-over-matter/energy type way. Our little ego-personality-self is none the wiser, it tends to think it's all coming from "out there" - ET or God or something.
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Please try to be serious.Cut out the new age garbage.
 
supergreen said:
the anomalies most certainly are anomalies not found in known human created fields.They are not normal conditions. This is 2010 not 2005 and your debunkers have themselves been debunked. None of the debunking links provided by the disdainfull superior skeptics here are up to date nor does a one of them take into consideration ALL
of the photographed, researched or quantifiably 'unusual' details collected over 2 decades
as a whole.
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Are you a friend of Reg Presley?
 
Rolfe said:
I'm strangely interested in the information that it's possible to make a crop circle in oilseed rape. Note that sometimes elections happen in June, and indeed the European elections are always in June.

I wonder how much it would cost?

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Context. I was out campaigning in the 1994 Euro-elections, and we were struck by the amount of bright yellow rape in the fields. Someone commented that we could make a great crop circle in that if only we knew how.

The idea took off in a small way, but no farmer would give us permission to mess up a crop. We rather thought the pattern would have to be cut rather than stamped, due to the nature of the crop. In the end we got permission to lay black plastic over the crop, and some black plastic strips (sheeting). We had the advantage of a light aeroplane overflying our field, and walkie-talkie feedback from the plane about how it was looking, but the disadvantage of what felt like a force 9 gale coming in from the North Sea.

In the end we achieved a rather skewed logo, with half a dozen of us under the plastic hanging on for grim death. It lasted just long enough to be photographed from the plane, and the photo was published in the Sun the next day.

I developed a healthy respect for the circlemakers that day!

Rolfe.
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Thank you for using the name oilseed rape instead of the coy and prissy canola euphemism.
 
Limbo said:
Stray cat says
ambiguous this, ambiguous that.

Circlemakers, stfu about woo!
Researchers, stfu about woo!

Stray Cat says let the circles do. Not you.

It's for the audience to say,
If there be woo either way.

Circles are for woo too
But not from you!
Get a real job, or

Be ambiguous, see?
Like Stray Cat be. :blush:
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1/10 Must try harder.
 
Limbo said:
I don't expect to find that at all. That's why I would rather pick Stray Cats brain, and yours as well since you seem to be a crop circle frequenter, than try to satisfy Toke or Adman with further evidence. Any evidence I give them they can (and will) interpret in a way consistent with their paradigm of thought. Nothing would change.

Of course they might interpret the evidence in a way consistent with my paradigm of thought (fat chance), but without my background in comparative mythology, comparative religion, and comparative mysticism they wouldn't see how or where it fits in.





What if I go out and make my own crop circle which, through a paranormal anomaly, leads me to ask myself profound, life changing questions about the nature of reality? In that case I would know the identity of the circle creator (me) and yet the magic is not destroyed.




I again speculate that the definitive litmus test doesn't exist or is hidden from us because of the machinations of the trickster archetype. If humanity could get control of its own collective psyche we could overcome that, but alas for now it seems out of our reach.
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If you make a circle,you will make a circle.The rest of your post is the usual new age bluster.
 
Marduk said:
I see what you mean
instead of the mundane explanation for crop circles of which the evidence is abundant you have chosen to go with a hypothesis which has no supporting evidence and for which you actually need to ignore evidence to carry on with your belief

pardon me for saying so, but your hypothesis is nuts
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That is putting it mildly.
 
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