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What about this crop circle?

Hokulele said:
"In the dead of night, no one can see you pee..."
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I thought that too, but one night driving across Oklahoma, I had to potty real bad!
Pulled off the road, and squatted and everything, just in time for a Greyhound bus to come along and illuminate me. :)
 
Alley Cat said:
Well I was a bit confused about the "porta potty", I have to admit.

After all YOU ARE IN A BIG FIELD.

Some people just look for complications.
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I figure if the scene is anything like this:

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spotlight.jpg


then maybe porta-potties are around somewhere. If I was the farmer who owned that land, one of my questions would have been about their toiletry plans. Think you all are gonna crap on my plants? Think again. If you want my permission to make a crop circle on my land, you'll make sure you leave my land the way you find it. Other than the crop circle, of course. :p

So what do they do? Go out a ways and squat in the field and hope the farmer doesn't notice? Go to the farmers house and use his bathroom? Or drag a porta-potty out there?

If you're an amateur circlemaker and you don't want to get caught trespassing, then you had best make sure you don't leave anything behind in the field. Common sense, right? So what are you gonna do if the crop circle takes 14 hours and you gotta take a dump? Do you bring toilet paper with you? You gonna just walk a ways away from the circle and squat, not caring if the farmer finds a turd? Or maybe dig a deep hole? Crap in a big baggie and take it with you? Take a break and drive home to use the bathroom? What?

I mean, if circlemakers are out there all night for 14 hours at a time they must have to think about various little things like that. Right? Gee, I wish there was an experienced circlemaker around here who is willing to answer questions about various things (even if they are incriminating) that may seem trivial now but could be important later.
 
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I Ratant said:
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I thought that too, but one night driving across Oklahoma, I had to potty real bad!
Pulled off the road, and squatted and everything, just in time for a Greyhound bus to come along and illuminate me. :)
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you from Oklahoma boy
I don't see no horns
:p
 
Limbo said:
...So what are you gonna do if the crop circle takes 14 hours and you gotta take a dump? Do you bring toilet paper with you? You gonna just walk a ways away from the circle and squat? Dig a deep hole? Crap in a big baggie?
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You've probably answered your own question. Why is this not an option. I certainly know first-hand of someone using a cut off 1.5l plastic drink bottle for the same purpose when out hunting.

But that was 30 years ago, these days they have hiking toilets for just this sort of thing.

Your arguments from incredulity are becoming increasingly vapid.
 
Just a thought. What happened to the early "cereologists" who were serious academics convinced the early circles could be explained by natural phenomena such as vertical whirlwinds?

These were the guys who cracked me up most. If there was one thing for sure even then, it was that the circles were deliberate constructs made by intelligent beings. Myself, I looked round at the planet we know about populated by enormous numbers of intelligent beings, and decided there was no mystery. Thesse guys, however, seemed compelled to take a different line against the tide of credulity following the things....

I'd love to know how they backed down from their research projects when the circles got complex enough to defy any naturalistic explanation.

Rolfe.
 
Limbo said:
I figure if the scene is anything like this:

http://www.circlemakers.org/Img/camera.jpg

http://www.circlemakers.org/Img/spotlight.jpg

then maybe porta-potties are around somewhere. If I was the farmer who owned that land, one of my questions would have been about their toiletry plans. Think you all are gonna crap on my plants? Think again. If you want my permission to make a crop circle on my land, you'll make sure you leave my land the way you find it. Other than the crop circle, of course. :p

So what do they do? Go out a ways and squat in the field and hope the farmer doesn't notice? Go to the farmers house and use his bathroom? Or drag a porta-potty out there?

If you're an amateur circlemaker and you don't want to get caught trespassing, then you had best make sure you don't leave anything behind in the field. Common sense, right? So what are you gonna do if the crop circle takes 14 hours and you gotta take a dump? Do you bring toilet paper with you? You gonna just walk a ways away from the circle and squat, not caring if the farmer finds a turd? Or maybe dig a deep hole? Crap in a big baggie and take it with you? Take a break and drive home to use the bathroom? What?

I mean, if circlemakers are out there all night for 14 hours at a time they must have to think about various little things like that. Right? Gee, I wish there was an experienced circlemaker around here who is willing to answer questions about various things (even if they are incriminating) that may seem trivial now but could be important later.
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Talk about arbitrary skepticism. Which is more likely?

1) Pooping in plastic bags

2) Undetectable world spanning subconcious mind-magic?


BTW, do you NEED to poop every 14 hours? You either have a medical condition or eat way too much fiber.
 
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KingMerv00 said:
OK. Which is more likely: Pooping in plastic bags or undetectable world spanning subconcious mind-magic?

Talk about arbitrary skepticism.

BTW, do you NEED to poop every 14 hours? You either have a medical condition or eat way too much fiber.
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Well, between the circlemakers and the media crew, chances are good that someone will have to go number one and number two sometime during a fourteen hour shift.

So if you're a circlemaker I guess you'll have to time certain things, eh?
 
Limbo said:
Well, between the circlemakers and the media crew, chances are good that someone will have to go number one and number two sometime during a fourteen hour shift.

So if you're a circlemaker I guess you'll have to time certain things, eh?
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So you ignored all the other answers so you could focus on this one? Why?
Oh, yeah, they make you look stupid. Never mind.
 
Limbo said:
Well, between the circlemakers and the media crew, chances are good that someone will have to go number one and number two sometime during a fourteen hour shift.

So if you're a circlemaker I guess you'll have to time certain things, eh?
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Perhaps.

Or perhaps the news media thinks the crop circle makes a better story than a turd they found 100 yards away.

You didn't answer my question. Why does pooping in a bag strain your imagination when you are ready to accept mind magic?

I've seen plastic bags. I've seen poop. I can easily picture those two things in apposition.
 
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JimBenArm said:
So you ignored all the other answers so you could focus on this one? Why?
Oh, yeah, they make you look stupid. Never mind.
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If I've ignored something someone said it's because they are on my ignore list. I have a rather large ignore list.

Sometimes I read a post here and there by people on my ignore list, to see if they still piss me off. If they don't, sometimes I take them off ignore.

Yup, you still do. :p
 
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Just because you don't know how something is done, or because you wouldn't poop in a bag or in a field, doesn't mean the answer is supernatural.

Take a look at some of the objects in this site. I think many of them were harder to produce than your average crop circle. I may not know how some of them were made, but I still have no doubt that nothing "psi" or supernatural was involved.
 
carlitos said:
/delurk

Mind magic seems a little less obvious than 'bag your poop' to me. Just sayin'.

/relurk
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Yeah. I'm just trying to construct a mental image of an amateur making a crop circle beginning to end. Gotta pick a location. Gotta pick a design. Gotta get the tools. Gotta go there, do it, and clean up. Gotta mind the little things. Water, toiletries, parking, etc. Can't mind the weather, though. Rain and mud don't concern circlemakers.

On one hand we have amateur circlemakers sneaking around illegally. On the other hand we have professionals and a media event and permission from the land owner. I think it's worth while examining any differences between these two in light of crop circle characteristics.
 
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