Was Tiller's Murder a Staged, State-Sponsored Terror Attack?

Galileo said:
The Great Galilei has AGAIN BEEN VINDICATED!!!

George Tiller Investigation: DOJ Opens Probe Into Doctor's Murder
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Ah, no. To be vindicated, you need an affirmative answer to "Was Tiller's Murder a Staged, State-Sponsored Terror Attack?"


Galileo said:
Face it, Galileo is the master of combining evidence with intuition! Nobody can touch him!!
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Robster said:
Ah, no. To be vindicated, you need an affirmative answer to "Was Tiller's Murder a Staged, State-Sponsored Terror Attack?"





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Wrong. We were told that Roeder acted alone, which I alone on the JREF board, disputed.
 
Galileo said:
Wrong. We were told that Roeder acted alone, which I alone on the JREF board, disputed.
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Who said he acted alone? Where is this information? What's your source?

Further more the authorities are looking into see if anti-abortion groups like operation rescue were involved not the anti-gun lobby or pro-life groups!

For anything else you have to say please see the cat and the water mellon.
 
I know this is a bit of an aside but didn't the chap who did this shoot the chap in church in front of loads of people?

It takes about 4 hours to drive 170 miles btw.
 
Galileo said:
Wrong. We were told that Roeder acted alone, which I alone on the JREF board, disputed.
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Two problems with this...

1. This is an investigation of this point, not evidence of having accomplices, so you are still in no place to claim vindication. Since OR members and leadership have previously acted to incite brutal acts of violence, including Roeder's OR contact, this is a vital and valid investigation, but unrelated to your fantasy of government assassination.

2. Initial reports, such as "acting alone," are based on initial evidence, and often need to be revised. In context, acting alone would mean single gunman with no escape driver, so you are not only committing the Texas sharpshooter fallacy, picking one detail out of a large number of incorrect predictions, but also choosing one that changes widely when considered in different contexts.

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Galileo, your postdictions aren't even funny, any longer. They've got to at least work, man! No one said he worked alone, and in fact, there's been a lot of speculation that some of the Operation Rescue more radical elements could've helped him out and thus might be subject to charges of conspiracy if the rumors bore fruit.

Coming back with "I was right because you guys said XXXXX" just doesn't work when all our words and posts and links are right here for you (and anyone insane enough to try to follow this thread) to see.

I will repeat this meme. You're not funny, dude. Well, funny as in "a couple of bricks short of a full load" funny, maybe. But as for street theatre or performance art, basically, you're going to cause the start of a movement to bring back Carrot Top(hitherto the single unfunniest person on earth).
 
Galileo said:
You realize, Travis, that if it turned out that Roeder had an association with Operation Rescue it is irrelevant to whether he's innocent.
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Really? Then why did you include information about his lack of connection to OR in you OP as evidence that he's innocent?
 
Galileo said:
* Roeder is a political activist. Shooting an abortion doctor does not benefit his cause, it benefits the cause of his political opponents.
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And claiming to be someone who has been dead for 367 years, does that help or hurt ones own cause?
 
Galileo said:
Only people already born, support abortion!
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Only people already born is against abortion too, so what's your point?

As to the 170 miles away bit only shows where he was when he was arrested so far.

How long after the murder was he arrested? If it's below 3 hours you might have a point.
 
Nogbad said:
It takes about 4 hours to drive 170 miles btw.
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If you drive 42mph you are correct.

I have already explained this but will assume you did not read the whole thread and I don't blame you for that.

Take a look at a map of Kansas. He was arrested 3 hours after the shooting out side of Granger which is about 170 miles away from Wichita. Granger is NE of Wichita along I35. The speed limit on I35 is 70mph. That means we can expect Roeder to have driven anywhere up to 210 miles from the scene of the crime during those 3 hours, assuming he did the speed limit. He could very easily have made it to Granger with time left over.
 
Biscuit said:
If you drive 42mph you are correct.

I have already explained this but will assume you did not read the whole thread and I don't blame you for that.

Take a look at a map of Kansas. He was arrested 3 hours after the shooting out side of Granger which is about 170 miles away from Wichita. Granger is NE of Wichita along I35. The speed limit on I35 is 70mph. That means we can expect Roeder to have driven anywhere up to 210 miles from the scene of the crime during those 3 hours, assuming he did the speed limit. He could very easily have made it to Granger with time left over.
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News reports say he was arrested 3 hours later, but he was really arrested two hours later.

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Galileo said:
News reports say he was arrested 3 hours later, but he was really arrested two hours later.

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No he wasn't. Please go play your sick little games somewhere else.

Yes, games. You're doing a delusional version of Kevin Bacon. When viewed from enough oblique angles and impossible contingencies any event can be termed a conspiracy if you're willing to ignore the facts.
 
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