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On the beaker test with Madalch I chose to give an answer I was not confident in. I have never had a specific experience as was outlined in the test, ie. to distinguish one chemical compound from another over webcam quality video. I am happy to have tried it and can conclude that I am unable to detect the difference in chemicals over webcam video.
Pup:
Pup said:
But the point of my question was... wouldn't you know immediately on looking at the beakers that you couldn't see any "colors" under those circumstances?
Yes I knew that I could not perceive a color difference. Yet I gave it a try to go by hunch just to see whether an ability might have materialized in another way than color, and I found out that the ability does not function under these conditions.
Pup said:
Guessing which was the red paint and waiting to be told he was wrong would be unnecessary.
True, yet I wanted to give it a try anyway as I do not yet fully understand under what conditions the ability may function. I am pleased to know however that I have defined yet another limitation to the ability and am closer to finding out what exactly it can and can not do. If the end result is that there is no extrasensory perception at all and under any conditions then I will accept it as readily as I have this. Yet chemical identification over webcam was never part of my claim.
UncaYimmy:
Thank you for volunteering, it was informative. It was harder for me to sense anything over a picture, although I was somewhat confident in the back, neck and right elbow problems, I also expected there to be other ailments that I was not detecting.
UncaYimmy said:
1) I have a scar on my right eye which makes images appear as though they are coming through a broken piece of glass.
This is among the things I would expect to be able to detect if I meet in person.
UncaYimmy said:
2) In some pictures I have a deviated septum and lots of swelling in my sinuses. Other pictures are post-surgery where this has been corrected.
Do not know if I would detect, would have loved to try.
UncaYimmy said:
3) I suffer from severe sleep apnea, which is unrelated to my nose and sinuses. It is due to some deformities in my jaw and the tissue around my throat.
Interesting and probably would have detected in person. Sorry you have that though.
UncaYimmy said:
4) All of my visible teeth are porcelain veneers - not real teeth.
Do not know if I would have detected, have never come across a person with this before who volunteered.
UncaYimmy said:
5) I am missing a 1 1/2 molars.
Often I detect missing molars.
UncaYimmy said:
6) I have been treated several times due to an issue in one of my neck vertebrae. The vertebra itself is not enlarged. The little hole where the nerves go through is narrowed causing inflammation of the nerves. I am currently a couple years out from my last round of steroid treatment, so it's irritating me a bit. This causes pain and tingling in the neck, right shoulder blade area, and right arm into my thumb.
Neck! Vertebrae! I knew it!
UncaYimmy said:
7) I have tendinitis in my right arm above my elbow.
Possibly but not necessarily what I detected. I detected an issue with the bones above and below the elbow cartilage, at least the region is correct.
UncaYimmy said:
8) I have cartilage damage in my right wrist.
Although it is not permissible to make claims afterwards, I did detect an issue with the right wrist but failed to mention it. This does not count but for my purposes I am interested.
UncaYimmy said:
9) I dislocated my left shoulder some years back and suffer from some damaged cartilage in that joint.
Might have detected if seen in person.
UncaYimmy said:
10) I have had surgery for a varicocele (abnormal enlargement of the veins in the scrotum draining the testicles). The surgery leaves the veins in place - it just cuts off blood flow.
Might have detected in person, do not know.
UncaYimmy said:
11) I have deep scar (required stitches under the skin) on my left thigh. I have no sense of touch or heat over a couple square inches.
Would have to see you in person to have a chance of detecting such a thing.
UncaYimmy said:
12) I have a torn ligament in my right knee. In some of the pictures that knee is swollen.
The first thing I detected was knee problems but I failed to mention this. It does not count but is interesting for my own record.
UncaYimmy said:
13) Both of my ankle joints are misaligned, which causes the joints to separate slightly every night. I also fractured my right ankle, which contributes to the problem.
Might have detected in person, do not know.
UncaYimmy said:
14) I broke my little toe many years ago.
Might have detected in person do not know.
UncaYimmy said:
As to what you did notice:
1) I have been treated by several doctors and physical therapists because of my neck vertebra problem (including two MRIs). Not one has ever mentioned anything about an enlarged skeleton.
Score.
UncaYimmy said:
2) I do not have any issues with the vertebrae in my lower back or in my hip bones. Because I have a gut these days and don't exercise properly, my lower back gets stiff. This is entirely a muscle issue.
As I said nothing wrong with hip bone. I was incorrect on the back vertebrae though.
UncaYimmy said:
3) My right elbow is just fine. The pain is under the bicep and wholly unrelated to the joint itself.
As I said the elbow joint is unaffected.
UncaYimmy said:
4) The left elbow functions perfectly.
In accordance with what I said.
UncaYimmy said:
5) Of course I have pain in various parts of my body. What 42 year old man doesn't?
I would not assume so, I meet plenty of 40-year olds in whom I sense no pain.
UncaYimmy said:
What would you conclude about this reading?
I conclude that I probably picked up on many of the correct areas of the body that are affected. And that I missed several ailments that might require me to see the person in life. And I am sorry about your ailments.
UncaYimmy said:
I have to skip the web cam now. And since the relevant technology is virtually identical to a digital camera, there's really no need.
Brilliant comment since I do not need to read the movement of a person, a picture should be equally useful as a webcam video - which means that both are equally useless!
UncaYimmy said:
You claim to be a scientist, but you don't speak the language of science. If your reading was a success, it would be evidence supporting your claim. Since you have an extraordinary claim, you will need extraordinary evidence (and probably an extraordinary amount of it).
On the contrary, I have a suspicion that if I were to pass a test that was hastily set up like this, a skeptical scientific look into it might find a flaw in procedure and disqualify the results. I choose to wait until a rigorous test has been set up, and if I pass
such a test I will accept a passing result. Say for instance if I had read about your ailments and had prior knowledge. This test was not to scientific standard and I could not accept a passing score as evidence toward an ability. I have not changed where I stand on this. I believe that a test arranged not to scientific standard, that may include flaws, can not conclude a passing result, however if I were to fail such a test, even if it had flaws that might simplify things for me, it should indicate towards no ability.
UncaYimmy said:
As for the latter half of your statement, one cannot really prove a negative like this. Nobody can prove you do not have the ability. It's not incumbent on anyone to even attempt to do so. It is up to you to demonstrate that the ability exists. The presumption must be that it does not exist until you prove otherwise.
This is an extremely important point. To quote from Wiki, "Though a lack of positive evidence can never disprove a hypothesis, a statistically large number of negative instances may make it highly improbable."
Alright I will accept that.
UncaYimmy said:
Glad to help. BTW, most of what I have noted in terms of my health I have mentioned over the years in various forums and newsgroups. If you have any doubts about my veracity, I can try to supply a written record.
And thank you for participating. In conclusion I am satisfied with my results although they are far weaker than how I perform in real life. Our test did not give me reason to strongly doubt an ability, nor were the results positive enough to satisfy mine and probably the general requirements of what would constitute evidence toward an ability. I was happy to find out that pictures are harder than real life, and will proceed with a real life test.