Moderated Views on George Galloway.

I have a feeling that for the overwhelming majority of UK residents, the departure of Galloway from Parliament will be a case of "good riddence to bad garbage".
 
So theres no real reasons that people can give then why he's so bad? Apart from all the ones that I've proved wrong :D

Might make a list of all the things people have accused him of that were outright wrong in a bit, that would be a laugh. You have to wonder why so many people believe all these false allegations.
 
Zeuzzz said:



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What's there to debunk? Galloway feels that Israelis knowing how to aim is a crime.

What he fails to realize is that Israel had the right to shoot back as soon as just ONE SINGLE ROCKET flew over the border.

If I have F-16s, Apache gunships and Merkava battle tanks, and you toss an explosive warhead in my direction, I'm gonna come over there and @#$% your *&%$ up... fair warning. So don't do it.

"But the UN says this, and the UN says that and the UN..." Screw the UN. They have no say in this and no credibility. When an organization knowingly and wilfully appoints a purveyor of anti-semitic conspiracy theories as it's chief Israel basher, everything they have to say on the topic becomes null and void.
 
Sword_Of_Truth said:
What's there to debunk? Galloway feels that Israelis knowing how to aim is a crime.
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No, knowing how to aim yet causing huge civilian deaths is what he thinks is a crime. And it is. As he points out, there were six months where not a single shot was fired by hamas. And even when they do they are inaccurate, hardly ever cause any fatalities, are often not supported by Hamas in the first place (maybe a grieving father whos family has been murdered fires something there as revenge).

And how is the UN guy anti-semitic? Dont have time at the mo... will read fully tomorrow.
 
Zeuzzz said:
No, knowing how to aim yet causing huge civilian deaths is what he thinks is a crime
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Name one other war in an urban setting that produced fewer civilian casualties than the Gaza incursions.

And, of course, your boy Galloway fully supports Hamas and gives them money so they can buy weapons to deliberately target Israeli civilians and torture to death Palestinian political opponents. They're his heros.

What a guy! :rolleyes:
 
noticed you ignored this earlier,

List of Israeli assassinations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations
1990s

* February 16, 1992 - Abbas al-Musawi, the Secretary-General of Hezbollah, is killed in his car convoy in Lebanon by missiles launched from two Israeli helicopters.[1]
* June 8, 1992 - Atef Bseiso, Palestinian official assassinated by Mossad for involvement in the Munich Massacre. Shot several times in the head at point blank range by 2 gunmen after returning to his hotel for the night (Aaron Klein's "Striking Back")
* October 26, 1995 - Fathi Shaqaqi, the head of Palestinian Islamic Jihad, is shot and killed in front of the Diplomat Hotel in Sliema, Malta.[1]
* January 6, 1996 - Yahya Ayyash "The Engineer", a bombmaker for Hamas, is killed in the Gaza strip by a bomb planted in a cell phone by the SHABAK.[1]

[edit] 2000s

* November 22, 2000 - Jamal Abdel Raziq, senior official of the Fatah faction Tanzim, is killed with his driver, Awni Dhuheir, when their car is fired upon by IDF troops in Gaza. The IDF troops also killed two innocent bystanders in the car in front of Abdel Raziq -- Sami Abu Laban, 29, a baker, and Na'el Al Leddawi, 22, a student -- in the attack.[6][7]
* February 3, 2001 - Massoud Ayyad, a lieutenant-colonel in Yaser Arafat's Force 17, is killed while driving in the Jabaliya refugee camp in Gaza by three helicopter launched rockets.[8]
* July 31, 2001 - Jamal Mansour, a high ranking official of Hamas' West Bank political wing, is killed when his office is struck by helicopter launched missiles.[9]
* August 20, 2001 - Imad Abu Sneneh, the leader of Tanzim, is shot and killed in Hebron by an Israeli team.[10]
* January 14, 2002 - Raed al-Karmi, head of al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades assassinated in Tulkarem.
* July 22, 2002 - Salah Shahade, the leader of Hamas Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades is killed using 2,205 pound of explosive dropped by a F-16. The attack also killed his wife and 9 children.
* March 8, 2003 - Ibrahim al-Makadmeh and three of his aides were killed by helicopter-fired missiles Gaza City
* August 21, 2003 - Ismail Abu Shanab - high ranking Hamas official [11]
* March 22, 2004 - Ahmed Yassin, co-founder and leader of Hamas, and bodyguards are killed in the Gaza Strip when hit by Israeli Air Force AH-64 Apache fired Hellfire missiles.
* April 17, 2004 - Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi, co-founder and leader of Hamas and successor of Ahmed Yassin as leader of Hamas after his death, is killed by helicopter-fired missiles along with his son.
* October 21, 2004 - Adnan al-Ghoul, Hamas weapons expert, and Imad Abbas were killed when an Apache helicopter fired missiles at their car.
* May 25, 2006 - Mahmoud al-Majzoub, a commander of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, was injured in a car bombing in Sidon, Lebanon and died the next day. Islamic Jihad blamed Israel, though Israel denied it.
* June 8, 2006 - Jamal Abu Samhadana was killed by an Israeli airstrike along with at least three other PRC members.[12][13]
* January 16, 2008 - Walid Obeidi, commander of Islamic Jihad's al-Quds Brigade is gunned down by Israeli commandos in the West Bank town of Qabatiya.[14]
* February 12, 2008 - Imad Mughniyah, one of Hezbollah's top commanders, was assassinated by a car bomb in Damascus, Syria. Some news reports indicated the Mossad was responsible,[15] though Israel denied carrying it out.[16].
* August 1, 2008 - Muhammad Suleiman, a Syrian General and top liaison between Syria and Hezbollah, is killed by sniper fire. Israel never takes credit for the killing but is widely suspected.[17][18]
* December 16, 2008 - Jihad Nawahda, a top Islamic Jihad commander, is ambushed and killed by undercover Israeli troops as he enters an internet cafe in the West Bank city of Jenin.[19]
* December 27, 2008 - Tawfiq Jabber, the commander of Hamas' police force in Gaza; Ismail al-Ja'abri, commander of the defense and security directorate; and Abu-Ahmad Ashur, Hamas' Gaza central district governor are all among the Hamas dead in the opening strike of Operation Cast Lead.[20]
* January 1, 2009 - Nizar Rayan, one of the top Hamas military commanders and decision makers, is assassinated in an Israeli air strike, along with his four wives and eleven of their children. He is the most senior Hamas member to be killed since 2004.
* January 3, 2009 - Abu Zakaria al-Jamal, a senior Hamas commander, is killed in an Israeli air strike.[21]
* January 15, 2009 - Said Seyam, the Hamas Interior Minister, is killed in an Israeli air strike that also claimed his brother, his son, and Hamas general security services commander Salah Abu Shrakh.[22]
* March 5, 2009 - Khaled Shalan, a senior member of Islamic Jihad, is killed in an Israeli air strike as retaliation for Palestinian rocket attacks on the Israeli city of Ashkelon.[23]
* May 28, 2009 - Abdel-Majid Uddin, a major Hamas commander in the West Bank, is killed during a raid conducted by the Israeli Special Forces unit YAMAM.[24]
* Others.[25]
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Thats gonna create quite a lotta anger, isn't it? Could we maybe make a comparison here between the ideology of Israels Kidon and Hamas?
 
Zeuzzz said:
noticed you ignored this earlier,

List of Israeli assassinations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations



Thats gonna create quite a lotta anger, isn't it? Could we maybe make a comparison here between the ideology of Israels Kidon and Hamas?
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Are you claiming it is wrong to kill those who are at war with you?

Have you found an urban war which had less civilian deaths than the Gaza incursion yet?

And curious you once again ignore that Hamas targets civilians and tortures political opponents to death.
 
WildCat said:
Are you claiming it is wrong to kill those who are at war with you?
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Now, were they at war for all of these killings? No.

And curious you once again ignore that Hamas targets civilians and tortures political opponents to death.
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I have not seen such evidence, but would not be entirely surprised. I have however seen numerous accounts of Israel targetting civilian locations and thus civilians, and killing dozens of people and leaders through their various assassinations.
 
Pawnage.

George Galloway speaks to a Zionist - PART 1


George Galloway speaks to a Zionist - PART 2


Picks his points apart piece by piece in part two.

Whats the matter with these extremist zionists?
 
Zeuzzz said:
Now, were they at war for all of these killings? No.
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The people they killed were certainly at war with Israel, do you disagree?

I have not seen such evidence, but would not be entirely surprised.
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This is a lie, you have seen the evidence you just chose to ignore it.

I have however seen numerous accounts of Israel targetting civilian locations and thus civilians, and killing dozens of people and leaders through their various assassinations.
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No, they targeted people who were warring on them. It is well within the rules of warfare to target the enemy, even if he hides amongst civilians.

Do what Hamas does, however, and specifically target civilians and you clearly are violating the rules of armed conflict. That's what your hero does, and you boy Galloway gives them money to do more of it.
 
Zeuzzz said:
No, they're the elected govenment, who have to defend themselves from Israeli agression frequently.
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The Nazi Party was an elected government, as well, and shared Hamas's fascist and anti-Semitic viewpoints. Israeli self-defense measures should not be confused with IslamoNazi aggression against Israel.

I dont like Hamas, but I dont think they are terrorists any more than Israel is a terrorist state (if we are going by civilian deaths especially)
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The US State Department does think Hamas are terrorists.

US State Department Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism
Background Information on Foreign Terrorist Organizations...

Formed in late 1987 as an outgrowth of the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. Various HAMAS elements have used both political and violent means, including terrorism, to pursue the goal of establishing an Islamic Palestinian state in place of Israel. Loosely structured, with some elements working clandestinely and others working openly through mosques and social service institutions to recruit members, raise money, organize activities, and distribute propaganda. HAMAS's strength is concentrated in the Gaza Strip and a few areas of the West Bank.

HAMAS activists, especially those in the Izz el-Din al-Qassam Brigades, have conducted many attacks--including large-scale suicide bombings--against Israeli civilian and military targets, suspected Palestinian collaborators, and Fatah rivals.
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Zeuzzz said:
dont they?!

They have a large army and miliary power. Hamas are like toy soldiers firing out of date and inaccurate weapons.
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Firing "inaccurate weapons" into civilian population centers nevertheless is a violation of the law and constitutes an act of war.

That the rockets fired into Israel by Hamas did not do greater damage does not mitigate the actions.
 
Zeuzzz said:
So theres no real reasons that people can give then why he's so bad? Apart from all the ones that I've proved wrong :D

Might make a list of all the things people have accused him of that were outright wrong in a bit, that would be a laugh. You have to wonder why so many people believe all these false allegations.
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My last post. watch the videos and stop lying
 
Zeuzzz said:
Untrue. But I didn't expect anything better from you. He just supports them over Israel if having to decide between them both. His sticking up for Hamas and people in palestine during times of war and inhumain suffering is often confused with him being some sort of fervant Hamas sycophant.
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I haven't seen criticism from Galloway directed to Hamas for their brutality in routinely beating, torturing and murdering Fatah and its supporters. Haven't heard boo from Galloway about Hamas having stolen humanitarian aid and misusing millions of dollars of foreign aid for the purchase of missiles that have been fired, illegally, into Israel.

I'm unaware of Galloway condemning the Hamas raid on a wedding in which they shot up the ceremony and beat the guests and the groom.

Galloway may want to turn his attention to the fact that Gazans require permission to leave for any reason including medical needs.

A Hamas police unit is charged with enforcing new modesty regulations, which include a prohibition on men from bathing topless and women from laughing while bathing.

Book-banning is widespread and there is governmental monitoring of Internet activity.

Crucifixion has been adopted as a form of punishment and laws forbidding the sale of land to Jews carry severe penalties, including execution. Several Palestinians have been hanged under the law.

The continued Islamization of Gaza under Hamas and moves toward the enforcement of shari'a law promise to place further restrictions on the lives of Gazans
 
WildCat said:
Here's a montage of Galloway asshattery, where he makes it quite clear he is pro-Hamas:

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And that's a bad thing?


Being pro-Hamas is no worse than being pro-Israel.

In fact being pro-Hamas is really a lot better than being pro-Israel. Both sides have killed innocent civilians, but Hamas are trying to fight back against an aggressor whilst Israel is an aggressor.


George Galloway is a star. He completely demolished the idiots in the Senate who used neocon'esque lies to try and smear him.

It's not surprising he hot kicked out of Zionist funded Blair's British Labour Party as he always spoke out against the big lie of the WMDs as a pre-text to invade Iraq.
 
Marc39 said:
The Nazi Party was an elected government, as well, and shared Hamas's fascist and anti-Semitic viewpoints. Israeli self-defense measures should not be confused with IslamoNazi aggression against Israel.
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And the racists in the Israeli Government who mount genocidal violence against the peopel fo Gaza are also elected.


The US State Department does think Hamas are terrorists.
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Who cares?

They are hardly a benchmark on morality.
 
WildCat said:
Have you found an urban war which had less civilian deaths than the Gaza incursion yet?
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Diversion away from the subject again

And curious you once again ignore that Hamas targets civilians and tortures political opponents to death.
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IDF terrorists shoot unarmed women and children when they are waving white flags.

Racist Israeli commanders order the dropping of white phosphorus on innocent civilians becuase they are of the wrong DNA
 
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