There's the first post. What was my contention again?
Fine. Given all of your excrutiating contortions throughout this thread is it any small wonder no one can pinpoint your exact claim? But I'll prove you wrong yet again.
The proof of the pudding that there are conspiracies at high levels of society is media's insistence that there are NONE.
In order for there to be a conspiracy then billions of people shouldn't be privy to it and the rest of your post contradicts a conspiracy.
Let's see. Big pharma and the mainstream media insist vaccines are absolutely safe but close to NONE of the vaccines are tested with a control group. They have convinced much of the American public that questioning the safety of vaccines is criminal.
False. No one claims vaccines are
absolutely safe but nice strawman. Many vaccines are tested with control groups.
This took five seconds to find. Now are you going to do the honest thing and admit you were wrong or continue dodging?
Next up, who and how has convinced the American public that questioning vaccine safety is criminal? Who has gone to jail or prosecuted? Meanwhile we have both
passive and
active surveillance systems in place; anyone can make an entry to the former and have it investigated if enough information is entered and independent investigators can mine the latter for vaccine adverse events and potential correlations for further investigation. In addition there are investigators all over the world publishing about vaccine safety/adverse events.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=vaccine+adverse+events. Once again I will ask you if you will do the intellectually honest thing and admit your claim was wrong or continue dodging?
Yet commercial after commercial airs up front and personal that if you've taken DRUG X, Y, or Z contact my law firm. Now you know those drugs, I think ZOLOFT is the star of the newer ripe for litigation drugs, were supposed to be tested with a control group! What happened.
So there is this conspiracy to convince us all that drugs are safe and the big bad Pharma Cabal controls everything yet they are routinely fined millions and billions of dollars, inspected, have production lines shut down, drugs pulled off the market and
public notices posted all hiding out in the open. How good of a conspiracy can this be Clayton? Why hasn't Ben Goldacre been deaded for
his excellent expose of pharma shenanigans? Better yet why wasn't he disappeared prior to its release?
Secondly, drugs and vaccines are treated very differently in terms of production, testing and marketing; the latter are biological products given to healthy people for prevention so the safety profile has to be far far higher than therapeutic drugs. This translates to more stringent testing, production and handling. And if you don't wish to believe me then you have simply got to do some heavy lifting and start investigating this using legitimate sources.
And the media pretty much crucifies anyone who dares suggest a link between autism and vaccines. Why would the media trust and speak out for an industry/community with such a poor drug testing track record?
Give some examples of this please and start supporting your claims. At one time, which lasted years by the way, Wakefield was a media darling getting favourable interviews and even stints speaking at U.S. Congressional hearings. Then he was found to have abused special needs children and committed scientific fraud. Robert Kennedy Jr. enjoyed the same favourable attention after his excrable thimersal piece in Rolling Stone Magazine and of course that was found to be so rife with errors and hyperbole it too was retracted. So they did it to themselves.
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