Understanding the Liberal Mindset

[Mojo]

I find it fascinating that the people that routinely label all conservatives as racist, sexist, homophobic, etc., get upset when someone applies labels and stereotypes on them.

Calling out racism, sexism, or homophobia is not the same as labelling people.

 

[jt512]

Unfortunately, the problem you have on the right is a paucity of intellectual thinkers. The only one I can think of in recent years that might qualify is Alan Sked.

If you can only think of one conservative intellectual thinker, then that is a problem you have.

 

[Trausti]

Calling out racism, sexism, or homophobia is not the same as labelling people.

 

[angrysoba]

I think the two bits are inseparable. "For those inside the party everything, for those outside the party nothing" is not a moral good, no matter how compassionate you are towards the people inside the party.


How else would you formulate it? Again, I'm asking if arth's moral goods are still moral goods when they're applied conditionally, according to bigoted conditions. I don't think they are.

To be clear: I'm not talking about people who apply the principles of compassion and empathy imperfectly. Nobody's perfect. I'm talking about people who espouse a bigoted ideology (or who express one in practice), that picks and chooses who gets compassion and empathy based on bigoted criteria. Hitler's National Socialism was not a partly-good, partly-bad ideology. It was all bad, in its conditional application of goods.

Again, it is not the compassion that is the problem; it is the specific demonization of other groups that is. I don't know how much more clearly I can say it.

If I cared for my family to the complete exclusion of others, I don't think that the caring for the family is what's wrong. Similarly if I cared for people in my community, or in my country, or even of my own race, or only for those of my own sex, then it is not the caring for them that is wrong.

You can fault me for treating it as a zero-sum game in which I expressly refuse compassion to others on the basis that there just isn't enough to go round, but that's not because I am giving too much compassion to anyone.

 

[I Am The Scum]

I don't think spreading the cartoons of a neo-Nazi was the best look on this one.

 

[TragicMonkey]

I don't think spreading the cartoons of a neo-Nazi was the best look on this one.

A certain someone is obsessed with what he thinks are windmills, though.

 

[Trausti]

I don't think spreading the cartoons of a neo-Nazi was the best look on this one.

If you don't understand the cartoon just say so. It's okay. It's an allusion to Don Quixote.

 

[I Am The Scum]

If you don't understand the cartoon just say so. It's okay. It's an allusion to Don Quixote.

I understand the cartoon just fine. It is you who does not understand that, in an ironic but unsurprising twist, you are spreading the propaganda of a holocaust denying neo-Nazi.



I'm willing to chalk it up as a mistake, provided you are willing to admit the error. Ball's in your court.

 

[Trausti]

I understand the cartoon just fine. It is you who does not understand that, in an ironic but unsurprising twist, you are spreading the propaganda of a holocaust denying neo-Nazi.

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I'm willing to chalk it up as a mistake, provided you are willing to admit the error. Ball's in your court.

"provided you are willing to admit the error." You lefties are all about attacking people for lack of ideological purity and not addressing an actual argument.

 

[arthwollipot]

You lefties are all about attacking people for lack of ideological purity and not addressing an actual argument.

Again, this is something I see far more often coming from the right than from the left.

 

[Trausti]

Again, this is something I see far more often coming from the right than from the left.

You must be joking.

 

[I Am The Scum]

"provided you are willing to admit the error." You lefties are all about attacking people for lack of ideological purity and not addressing an actual argument.

When an inconsistency in your position was exposed earlier you accused the poster of having Trump Derangement Syndrome. This behavior is so common that you likely forgot you did it immediately after. There's a reason cult researchers refer to this type of behavior as a thought-stopping technique.

In any case, I see that the spreading of Nazi propaganda was not an accident. The stereotype has once again been validated.

 

[dirtywick]

can’t make this stuff up

 

[dudalb]

To be fair, it's true of most ideological groupings. Even with MAGA, Trump does sort of, but much like the bible, various MAGA folks can interpret Trump's nonsense in all sorts of ways. And as soon as Trumps out of the picture or even sooner, MAGA will splinter. They'll end up like the various US communist parties. There've been a dozen or so mostly based on every split in the USSR or between the USSR and some other nations communist party led to a split among the American Commies.

And over the past few months thre are signs that the MAGA Colition is starting to splinter.
One divide is foreign affaris, where the MAGA evangelicals want the US to come to ISrael's aid, including troops, but many not Evagelical MAGAS don't want the USA to get invovlved. This divideis only going to widen.

Laying the groundwork to deny the results of elections from these states and others.

If they try that, it will trigger massive protest and probably massive violence.

 

[Trausti]

When an inconsistency in your position was exposed earlier you accused the poster of having Trump Derangement Syndrome. This behavior is so common that you likely forgot you did it immediately after. There's a reason cult researchers refer to this type of behavior as a thought-stopping technique.

In any case, I see that the spreading of Nazi propaganda was not an accident. The stereotype has once again been validated.

Because the poster was not making any argument but simply mentioning Trump for no reason whatsoever. Pointing out that lefties attack anyone or anything they don't like as Nazis or worse is not "Nazi Propaganda." You are simply trying to shut off argument with name calling as you obviously have no actual rebuttal.