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Truther responses to Millette WTC Dust paper

Nice find, Orphia.

I am not sure who Wild Bear is, but he or she seems to be closer to the jimd3100/shure position; while not ruling out CD and thinking CD is viable, he/she focusses more on the political framework (Saudis).

Worth pointing out that 911Blogger does not only censor by moderation, but also allows a crowd of members to silence dissent through this down-voting function. Seems enough 911Blogger participants happily engage actively in censoring opposition.
 
I think that these posts of WildBear on 911Blogger are great:o)

Just for the record, here is another relevant thread starting this July on the web Bluelight.

Both skeptics and truthers were debating there:cool:

One quote of truther nicked Comrade Kane:
"One more reason I see this study as suspicious is that why, why on earth would anyone spend their money on studies? Why would someone without an interest in the results do that? My limit is spend a few minutes typing up sentences on a forum, I'd never bother to pay, never be that obsessed.

Anyone with enough interest to pay has enough interest to bias the results, especially when they purport to prove an ready accepted line, that muslims did it."

;)
 
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Ivan Kminek said:
I think that these posts of WildBear on 911Blogger are great:o)

Just for the record, here is another relevant thread starting this July on the web Bluelight.
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Typical truther thread. Someone posts an OP and every truther ignores the OP and derails the thread with BS.

Truthers simply cannot debate at any technical level when it comes to the Millette study or the thread on analysis of the red chips. eg. remo.
 
Sunstealer said:
Typical truther thread. Someone posts an OP and every truther ignores the OP and derails the thread with BS.

Truthers simply cannot debate at any technical level when it comes to the Millette study or the thread on analysis of the red chips. eg. remo.
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It always amazes me how people willfully lock themselves in their personal mental prisons:

Absolutely. The official story is bogus, anyone who spends an hour looking at the evidence can realize that. And because the official story is bogus they know people will go after the truth which means a disinformation campaign has to be put in place to direct these troublemakers away from getting to the bottom of things
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Well, yet another debate on Millette's/Harrit's results found in the antisemitic/racist web Stormfront.org. (it starts with the post No. 12).

A guy nicked LionAxe (probably a sort of scientist or so?) has made (again) some good points as for red/gray chips and their study.
Contrary to our position on JREF, LionAxe seems to be a "solitary debunker" on the StormFront, still he is apparently respected there and discussions of antisemitic/racist truthers with him are generally quite calm and polite:cool:

LionAxe mentioned several times Oystein and his blog and he also gave the links to his "good old" contributions on this matter (in the post No 14, I already linked this stuff in the past).
 
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I am getting named by and traffic from stormfront?

Gee, glad I don't use my real name :rolleyes:
 
Ivan Kminek said:
Well, yet another debate on Millette's/Harrit's results found in the antisemitic/racist web Stormfront.org. (it starts with the post No. 12).

A guy nicked LionAxe (probably a sort of scientist or so?) has made (again) some good points as for red/gray chips and their study.
Contrary to our position on JREF, LionAxe seems to be a "solitary debunker" on the StormFront, still he is apparently respected there and discussions of antisemitic/racist truthers with him are generally quite calm and polite:cool:

LionAxe mentioned several times Oystein and his blog and he also gave the links to his "good old" contributions on this matter (in the post No 14, I already linked this stuff in the past).
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In this post:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t788084-13/#post9222781
LionAxe has included this link to an image in Sunstealer's JREF picture album:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=181&pictureid=874

Now that link only works and displays the image when you are logged in to the JREF forum. Meaning: LionAxe is a registered member here.

Oh, and he is good :)
 
I just wish to point out for the record that I'm not registered at Stormfront nor ever wish to be. As I understand it, if a JREF picture album is public, any JREF member can access that album. LionAxe maybe registered at, but not post on JREF.
 
Sure thing, Sunstealer ;) LionAxe may be good at debunking truther nonsense, but his style is clearly different from yours. Also, I don't know if he is otherwise a racist nut, or perhaps a tolerated racism-debunker there, and I don't wish to find out.

According to his stormfront profile, he is from Sweden, but his written English is pretty good, including frequent use of colloquial phrases that you wouldn't necessarily learn from formal English classes. Of course that doesn't mean he must be a native speaker - I am probably on a similar level. My "excuse" is having lived in the USA for over 2 years as a student.
 
Well, here is an another fresh masterpiece of truthers' "nanothermite" propaganda, written by M. Talboo and "Siggi Super" (I and Oystein know the second truther quite well from Oystein's blog).

I know this text already for some days, thanks to Oystein. It is so densely packed with misinterpretations, misunderstandings of topics, distorsions of facts etc. that we could spend perhaps weeks on detailed critic.
As Oystein already noted in his e-mail to me, Talboo and Siggi even tried to make supporters of truthers from me and Oystein in one part of the text:cool::D

I should add that this "document" was written basically on support of some new, "truly independent" red/gray chips investigation, which is being organized by Mark Basile. I have no objections against it, except: it is quite apparent from this text, that no real cooperation (some "joint study" of chips) is possible with such people. I think.
 
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:D

What they write on Debunking the Debunkers is fair enough, given their deeply-held beliefs about CD.

I am disappointed however that JM went ahead and kept all the quote-mines from you, Ivan, and me on the linked markbasile.org story. Oh well.

Right, we could spend a lot of time setting everything right that they get wrong, but we would be very distracted from the topic at hand: Which is to support Mark Basile in funding another independent and competent study. I think "Siggi Super" is not doing him any favours with this one-sided, sharp and opinionated piece. He doesn't need to rile up the thermite-believers, and shouldn't hit us scpetics upside the head like this, if broad support is desired.

I just emailed and asked Basile, under whose domain name (markbasile.org) this got published, if he approved of this text ;)
 
Ivan Kminek said:
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I know this text already for some days, thanks to Oystein. It is so densely packed with misinterpretations, misunderstandings of topics, distorsions of facts etc. that we could spend perhaps weeks on detailed critic.
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Oystein said:
:D

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Right, we could spend a lot of time setting everything right that they get wrong, but we would be very distracted from the topic at hand: Which is to support Mark Basile in funding another independent and competent study......
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:D
 
Lol
If the 1600 architects and engineers donated $3 each, Basile would hit his target.

They are either really tight or they can smell the BS

Or maybe they are out of work ?
 
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