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Trump's Second Term

Segnosaur said:
I have seen you make that claim before, but you never seen to give those "personal reasons".

A skeptic is someone who looks at the evidence with a rational mind. Who considers the source of the evidence to see how much weight they should be given, and measures it against competing evidence.

If you are not going to give those "personal reasons" then you are just expecting us to just accept something with no evidence. That is pretty much the opposite of being a skeptic.
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A skeptic doesn't base their opinion or a fact on their assumptions.

After all, I could make the assumption that you love the fat clown because you're still a US citizen.


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turingtest said:
Yeah, this. Trump/Musk have never been about raising and then seriously investigating issues with any intent to honestly report outcomes- their only interest in "scandals" is in how they can create and then use them to entertain their MAGA audience. If one doesn't pan out, they'll just move on to another; after all, how many MAGAs even remember, much less hold it against them, that that whole "Haitians eating the cats and dogs" thing came to nothing in the end, or that Vance effectively admitted to manipulating them by inventing it to begin with?
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Maybe Muck will go investigate Al Capone's vault, or start searching for Atlantis? I'd like him a lot better if he were imploded in a submarine on the ocean floor. People say he looks bad in his t-shirt, jacket, and cap combo but I think he'd look his very best as a red mist crystalling into ocean floor mud. It's a new style!
 
AmyStrange said:
A smart man once said in this thread that by continuing to be a US citizen, you are also associating yourself with the fat clown, and besides, I have my own personal reasons for staying a republican that are none of your business, and I'm personally tired of arguing the point because my actions and comments in this thread (and elsewhere) proves that I'm not a maga weirdo.

Actually, it's a stupid thing to argue about, but if it makes you feel better, knock yourself out.


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Perhaps adopt the title, "Republican in Exile"?
 
AmyStrange said:
I have seen you make that claim before, but you never seen to give those "personal reasons".

A skeptic is someone who looks at the evidence with a rational mind. Who considers the source of the evidence to see how much weight they should be given, and measures it against competing evidence.

If you are not going to give those "personal reasons" then you are just expecting us to just accept something with no evidence. That is pretty much the opposite of being a skeptic.
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Because they're personal and none of anyone's damn business but my own.
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Then don't expect US skeptics to give you a free pass and assume your reasons are valid, and that you shouldn't be criticized for supporting the party of Stubby McBonespurs just because "you have reasons".
 
Segnosaur said:
Then don't expect US skeptics to give you a free pass and assume your reasons are valid, and that you shouldn't be criticized for supporting the party of Stubby McBonespurs just because "you have reasons".
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Like I said, a REAL skeptic doesn't base an opinion or a fact on an assumption.


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theprestige said:
You're begging the question that only "MAGA weirdos" would still register as Republicans.
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You know, a decade ago, a person could probably claim "I'm a republican but don't support the republican candidate for president" and nobody would bat an eye.

But Trump and the rise of the MAGAchud have changed the nature of politics. The GOP has gone so far off the rails, their actions are so... questionable... and the republicans in congress have established a cult-like subservience to Trump that the ability to say "I support the republicans but not Trump" is something that many people just don't accept.
 
Segnosaur said:
Then don't expect US skeptics to give you a free pass and assume your reasons are valid, and that you shouldn't be criticized for supporting the party of Stubby McBonespurs just because "you have reasons".
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After all (paraphrasing another poster here), I could assume all US citizens love trump just because they're still US citizens, but I'm NOT STUPID.


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Safe-Keeper said:
Ladies and gentlemen, President Dwayne Elonia Tesla Camacho.

...Okay, that's not fair, Camacho wanted the best for his people and listened to the experts.

edit: I note that Bannon didn't look like he dared do a proper Sieg Heil. That was half-hearted.
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His rarely-laundered clothes have stiffened such that they significantly restrict his movements.
 
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TragicMonkey said:
Maybe Muck will go investigate Al Capone's vault, or start searching for Atlantis?
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Part of me wants Trump and Musk to continue wasting their time on all these performative stunts, because it keeps them from doing real damage. But of course the real damage is being done by the Project 2525 goons behind Trump and the wet-behind-the-ears techno-toddlers behind Musk. The performative stunts are cover to keep the media focused on the wrong things, so another part of me wants the attention focused where it should be. And that same part of me laments that the stunts also reinforce to the masses that this is what government should have been paying attention to all along. The Framers really wanted us to obsess over the gold at Fort Knox rather than promoting the general welfare and ensuring domestic tranquility.
 
AmyStrange said:
Then don't expect US skeptics to give you a free pass and assume your reasons are valid, and that you shouldn't be criticized for supporting the party of Stubby McBonespurs just because "you have reasons".
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Like I said, a REAL skeptic doesn't base an opinion or a fact on an assumption.
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I feel the same way about bigfoot.

I mean, I have real reasons for knowing he exists. They are absolutley convincing. But those reasons are personal, and you should just accept them.
 
Segnosaur said:
I feel the same way about bigfoot.

I mean, I have real reasons for knowing he exists. They are absolutley convincing. But those reasons are personal, and you should just accept them.
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Why shouldn't I just accept them?

I too think Bigfoot is real, but there's just too much damn evidence against it.


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Segnosaur said:
You know, a decade ago, a person could probably claim "I'm a republican but don't support the republican candidate for president" and nobody would bat an eye.

But Trump and the rise of the MAGAchud have changed the nature of politics. The GOP has gone so far off the rails, their actions are so... questionable... and the republicans in congress have established a cult-like subservience to Trump that the ability to say "I support the republicans but not Trump" is something that many people just don't accept.
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i agree, if the republican party completely supports trump and his agenda, how does supporting the republican party but not trump work?
 
shemp said:
Final score: Canada 3-2 USA.
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I was extremely fortunate to attend the 2002 Winter Olympics held in my city. There was a vote-trading scandal in pairs figure skating that resulted in two Canadian athletes losing the gold medal to the Russian competitors. What most people didn't see on TV was the eruption of Canadian flags in our city, in support of our neighbor. Stores ran out of Canadian flags. There's a big flag company in our valley; they contributed overtime to print more. This is the relationship I want to have with Canada. That's the kind of America I want to live in. This fake Trumpian war with Canada is beyond the pale.
 
JayUtah said:
Part of me wants Trump and Musk to continue wasting their time on all these performative stunts, because it keeps them from doing real damage. But of course the real damage is being done by the Project 2525 goons behind Trump and the wet-behind-the-ears techno-toddlers behind Musk. The performative stunts are cover to keep the media focused on the wrong things, so another part of me wants the attention focused where it should be. And that same part of me laments that the stunts also reinforce to the masses that this is what government should have been paying attention to all along. The Framers really wanted us to obsess over the gold at Fort Knox rather than promoting the general welfare and ensuring domestic tranquility.
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i don’t think the fort knox visits are a stunt. they’ll go, say there’s a problem with the gold. they want to go back to the gold standard, but there’s a problem with the gold. so we need a crypto reserve instead.

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what are the odds they say they checked it out and everything is great? it’s 0 right?
 
thecurrencyanalytics.com

Montana Advances $50M Bitcoin Reserve Plan

Montana has approved a Bitcoin Reserve bill allowing the state to hold up to $50M in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, positioning itself as a leader in crypto-backed reserves.
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20 state legislatures are actively pushing crypto reserves and trump and his retinue of crypto bro cabinet members are pushing for a federal reserve. imo they’re pushing to defraud the taxpayers out of hundreds billions
 
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