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Trump's Second Term

US doesn't need Canadian energy or cars, says Trump​


Well that will be an interesting theory to test. I mean the US auto industry can totally undo that integrated supply chain overnight because obviously there are US factories just sitting idle waiting to make those parts right? Oh and of course drilling new oil wells is just like flipping a switch, it won't take years for new fields to come on line and they will totally be cheaper than Canadian imports won't they?
 
POTUS to the World

President Donald J. Trump
@POTUS

My message to every business in the world is very simple.

Come make your product in America, and we will give you among the lowest taxes of any nation on earth. But if you don't make your product in America, you will have to pay a tariff.
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Best metaphor I've seen is, imagine you have oil in your back yard. You could dig up the yard, install an oil pump, and that would be fine. Your back yard would be ugly and polluted, though. So there's that trade-off.

But what if your neighbor is willing to drill in his back yard, and sell you his oil at a reasonable price? That's great! You can preserve your yard in pristine condition, thanks to his choice to ruin his.

And the best part is, get this, if your neighbor decides to stop selling you oil, you still have the option of pumping your own.

Canadian energy is like Russian energy: Nice to have if the price is right, but ultimately not necessary.
 
theprestige said:
Best metaphor I've seen is, imagine you have oil in your back yard. You could dig up the yard, install an oil pump, and that would be fine. Your back yard would be ugly and polluted, though. So there's that trade-off.

But what if your neighbor is willing to drill in his back yard, and sell you his oil at a reasonable price? That's great! You can preserve your yard in pristine condition, thanks to his choice to ruin his.

And the best part is, get this, if your neighbor decides to stop selling you oil, you still have the option of pumping your own.

Canadian energy is like Russian energy: Nice to have if the price is right, but ultimately not necessary.
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A simple-minded metaphor to describe a simple-minded energy policy. Perfectly done. :thumbsup:
 
theprestige said:
Best metaphor I've seen is, imagine you have oil in your back yard. You could dig up the yard, install an oil pump, and that would be fine. Your back yard would be ugly and polluted, though. So there's that trade-off.

But what if your neighbor is willing to drill in his back yard, and sell you his oil at a reasonable price? That's great! You can preserve your yard in pristine condition, thanks to his choice to ruin his.

And the best part is, get this, if your neighbor decides to stop selling you oil, you still have the option of pumping your own.

Canadian energy is like Russian energy: Nice to have if the price is right, bu yout ultimately not necessary.
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Except the oil in your backyard is hard to get and even if you start tomorrow you won't get a barrel out of the ground for years, but hey you won't mind sitting in the dark in the meantime or paying vastly inflated prices to heat your home or keep the lights on?
 
johnny karate said:
A simple-minded metaphor to describe a simple-minded energy policy. Perfectly done. :thumbsup:
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It shouldn't be surprising that some people fail to understand that all the easy to get at oil on US territory is already being extracted. Any new fields are going to take a long time to open up, will be smaller and more expensive to pump oil from than existing fields and of course that oil gets sold at market rates, the oil companies don't give a discount to the country they extract it from.
 
Garrison said:
It shouldn't be surprising that some people fail to understand that all the easy to get at oil on US territory is already being extracted. Any new fields are going to take a long time to open up, will be smaller and more expensive to pump oil from than existing fields and of course that oil gets sold at market rates, the oil companies don't give a discount to the country they extract it from.
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I think theprestige's understanding of oil extraction comes from watching the opening credits of The Beverly Hillbillies.
 
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theprestige said:
Best metaphor I've seen is, imagine you have oil in your back yard. You could dig up the yard, install an oil pump, and that would be fine. Your back yard would be ugly and polluted, though. So there's that trade-off.

But what if your neighbor is willing to drill in his back yard, and sell you his oil at a reasonable price? That's great! You can preserve your yard in pristine condition, thanks to his choice to ruin his.

And the best part is, get this, if your neighbor decides to stop selling you oil, you still have the option of pumping your own.

Canadian energy is like Russian energy: Nice to have if the price is right, but ultimately not necessary.
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Seems less like a metaphor and more like an analogy...
 
I Am The Scum said:
You could ask him which of the two is closer to the Nazis, but that would imply that he actually believes something. On that subject, I defer to Sartre:
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Not that Satre has clean hands here....
Random said:
I am honestly unsure. Various Russians have said negative stuff about Trump, and Trump is perfectly willing to base foreign policy on personal slights to himself. Add in the fact that Russia has not been able to decisively beat Ukraine, and that makes Putin look "weak" to Trumps limited understanding.

In his mind, the US doesn't really have any skin in the game as there are not really any US troops there, and the "money" that we are sending to Ukraine is mostly in the form of US manufactured weapons. Since he can be bribed by defense contractors into continuing, I would not be surprised to see things in Ukraine continue for a while.
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And Trump Hates "Losers: with a passion, and he probably thinks that the way he messed up Ukraine, Putin is a loser.
 
Garrison said:

US doesn't need Canadian energy or cars, says Trump​


Well that will be an interesting theory to test. I mean the US auto industry can totally undo that integrated supply chain overnight because obviously there are US factories just sitting idle waiting to make those parts right? Oh and of course drilling new oil wells is just like flipping a switch, it won't take years for new fields to come on line and they will totally be cheaper than Canadian imports won't they?
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Yes, but it will be a hell of alot more expensive.
 
I see Trump released more fileson the JFK, MLK and RFK jr assissiantions.I
I actually think this is a good thing, since I the more basic source material jfor history the better, but I don;t think any smoking guns will be found.
 
theprestige said:
Best metaphor I've seen is, imagine you have oil in your back yard. You could dig up the yard, install an oil pump, and that would be fine. Your back yard would be ugly and polluted, though. So there's that trade-off.

But what if your neighbor is willing to drill in his back yard, and sell you his oil at a reasonable price? That's great! You can preserve your yard in pristine condition, thanks to his choice to ruin his.

And the best part is, get this, if your neighbor decides to stop selling you oil, you still have the option of pumping your own.

Canadian energy is like Russian energy: Nice to have if the price is right, but ultimately not necessary.
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Exactly. So Trump is deliberately increasing scarcity by cutting off a willing supplier and necessitating extraction and clean-up costs on his own country.
 
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