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Trump's promised ICE raids have begun

Frank Newgent said:
You sound naive to me.

Roofing work is generally hot, dirty, with long hours, and physically demanding. There are not enough native born crews to handle all the work that is out there.

Half the roofers in the US are foreign born. About a third are undocumented.

To assume that they are doing the work that´s out there because they can be paid less than US born workers is naive.
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www.roofingcontractor.com

Reporting Finds Roofing Employs 75,000 Undocumented Workers

Reporting shows that undocumented workers make up 10% of U.S. construction labor, with 75,600 roofers among them, highlighting the industry's heavy reliance on migrant labor to fill critical job shortages.
www.roofingcontractor.com www.roofingcontractor.com

The University of Michigan’s case study concluded the usually unspoken truism: subcontractors favor hiring undocumented workers because it saves them money and allows them to produce more competitive bids. It is estimated that U.S.-born construction workers earn an average of $3.12 more per hour than undocumented workers.
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Stout said:
www.roofingcontractor.com

Reporting Finds Roofing Employs 75,000 Undocumented Workers

Reporting shows that undocumented workers make up 10% of U.S. construction labor, with 75,600 roofers among them, highlighting the industry's heavy reliance on migrant labor to fill critical job shortages.
www.roofingcontractor.com www.roofingcontractor.com
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Yeah, so what?

All I see is that companies are hiring undocumented workers but aren't being punished for it.

I wonder why not?
 
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Stout said:
www.roofingcontractor.com

Reporting Finds Roofing Employs 75,000 Undocumented Workers

Reporting shows that undocumented workers make up 10% of U.S. construction labor, with 75,600 roofers among them, highlighting the industry's heavy reliance on migrant labor to fill critical job shortages.
www.roofingcontractor.com www.roofingcontractor.com
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Immediately after the sentence you quoted in your link comes this:

The National Immigration Forum reports the construction industry would not be able to function without immigrant labor and undocumented workers.

“Migrant labor is indispensable to the construction industry, but because of narrow options for work authorization, almost a quarter of its workforce is undocumented,” the NIF authors wrote, adding that improving the employment-based visa system is critical to solving the industry’s labor shortage.

“The construction industry’s large share of immigrant labor, particularly undocumented immigrants, is important to acknowledge because of this group’s vulnerability to employment misclassification.”

The NIF notes that domestic construction is an industry that will never satisfy its labor needs solely by relying on U.S. workers, adding it is particularly relevant in light of President-elect Donald Trump's pledge to expel millions of undocumented workers.
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Hard working people trying to provide a better life for their family, with no record of violent crime, and who are needed in the US to fill the demand for workers shouldn´t be treated like steaming ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ by US authorities.
 
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ICE agents shot a man in the back…

Simply because he tried to warn them they were right next to a bus stop, and children would be arriving soon.

They pulled their guns on him, so he went to drive away, and they shot him in the back.

How long before these poorly trained “agents” kill a U.S. citizen…or a child?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985209605211726234
 
Andy_Ross said:
ICE agents shot a man in the back…

Simply because he tried to warn them they were right next to a bus stop, and children would be arriving soon.

They pulled their guns on him, so he went to drive away, and they shot him in the back.

How long before these poorly trained “agents” kill a U.S. citizen…or a child?
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Much like school shootings, it will likely be brushed off as an unfortunate but necessary consequence of maintaining our freedom.
 
they already are making that argument. they're illegal, which is against the law, so we have to get them out and any damages that result are their fault for being here illegally. and even when they're not illegal, they didn't have their id and looked illegal so that's fine too.
 
Andy_Ross said:
ICE agents shot a man in the back…

Simply because he tried to warn them they were right next to a bus stop, and children would be arriving soon.

They pulled their guns on him, so he went to drive away, and they shot him in the back.

How long before these poorly trained “agents” kill a U.S. citizen…or a child?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985209605211726234
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But, but, but … "someone" ;) will tell you that if you take care to look more in detail you'll see that he made some threatening gestures, and/or talked back, or prevented somehow them from accomplishing their duty, and of course he should have gone to the courts in order to determine whether they'd done something illegal instead of intervening …
 
Andy_Ross said:
ICE agents shot a man in the back…

Simply because he tried to warn them they were right next to a bus stop, and children would be arriving soon.

They pulled their guns on him, so he went to drive away, and they shot him in the back.

How long before these poorly trained “agents” kill a U.S. citizen…or a child?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985209605211726234
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Likely (snicker) antifa.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Okay, how much further do you want them to go? What level of violent misconduct will satisfy you?
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Andy_Ross

Post in thread 'Trump's promised ICE raids have begun'

ICE agents shot a man in the back…

Simply because he tried to warn them they were right next to a bus stop, and children would be arriving soon.

They pulled their guns on him, so he went to drive away, and they shot him in the back.

How long before these poorly trained “agents” kill a U.S. citizen…or a child?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985209605211726234
  • Wow
 
Flo said:
But, but, but … "someone" ;) will tell you that if you take care to look more in detail you'll see that he made some threatening gestures, and/or talked back, or prevented somehow them from accomplishing their duty, and of course he should have gone to the courts in order to determine whether they'd done something illegal instead of intervening …
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The feds are literally charging the man with assault on a federal agent. Seems he approached the agents to warn them that they were near a school bus stop, and the agents freaked out and drew weapons on him. As the guy returned to his car to leave, he put his vehicle in reverse to pull off the curb (sounds like a normal parallel parking thing), so the agents thought he was ramming their vehicle and opened fire.

You can't make this ◊◊◊◊ up.
 
Thermal said:
The feds are literally charging the man with assault on a federal agent. Seems he approached the agents to warn them that they were near a school bus stop, and the agents freaked out and drew weapons on him. As the guy returned to his car to leave, he put his vehicle in reverse to pull off the curb (sounds like a normal parallel parking thing), so the agents thought he was ramming their vehicle and opened fire.

You can't make this ◊◊◊◊ up.
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They sound well-trained. Probably watched a 15 minute video.

When he heard about it, Trump probably got the first hard-on in months. I don't want to think about how Miller reacted.
 
Frank Newgent said:
Hard working people trying to provide a better life for their family, with no record of violent crime, and who are needed in the US to fill the demand for workers shouldn´t be treated like steaming ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ by US authorities.
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The Us government has been deporting hard working undocumented immigrants for decades, no doubt treating them like steaming ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. The only thing that's changed is the citizen interference. Any reason these undocumented workers haven't become documented workers?
 
Stout said:
The Us government has been deporting hard working undocumented immigrants for decades, no doubt treating them like steaming ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. The only thing that's changed is the citizen interference. Any reason these undocumented workers haven't become documented workers?
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Because some of them are being dragged away while trying to become documented workers, even after they've paid thousands to try to do the right thing.
 
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Thermal said:
The feds are literally charging the man with assault on a federal agent. Seems he approached the agents to warn them that they were near a school bus stop, and the agents freaked out and drew weapons on him. As the guy returned to his car to leave, he put his vehicle in reverse to pull off the curb (sounds like a normal parallel parking thing), so the agents thought he was ramming their vehicle and opened fire.

You can't make this ◊◊◊◊ up.
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You're close, but veer off into speculation.

“The Lexus then stopped, turned its wheels, and then rapidly accelerated in reverse back toward” a Border Patrol agent named in the complaint as “Officer N.J.” and the Honda the agents had stopped, which had three people inside.
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www.latimes.com

U.S. citizen shot from behind as he warned ICE agents about children gathering at bus stop, lawyers say

Lawyers for Carlos Jimenez said he was in fear after an agent threatened him with chemical spray, then pointed a gun at him.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com
 
Stout said:
The Us government has been deporting hard working undocumented immigrants for decades, no doubt treating them like steaming ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. The only thing that's changed is the citizen interference. Any reason these undocumented workers haven't become documented workers?
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The question you should be asking is why aren't businesses being punished for hiring undocumented workers.
 
Stout said:
The Us government has been deporting hard working undocumented immigrants for decades, no doubt treating them like steaming ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. The only thing that's changed is the citizen interference. Any reason these undocumented workers haven't become documented workers?
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Because ICE are arresting documented people and deporting them.
They are waiting outside court rooms to arrest people going through the legal process to become documrnted.
 
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