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Trump's Inauguration Speech

ChrisBFRPKY said:
Yes, it was hit and miss though. It rained some, then it stopped, then it rained again all during his speech.
Chris B.
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One of the religious guys said something to the effect that "If it rains, it's God's blessing", thereby having every instance covered. A lightning strike would have been cool, though.
 
Resume said:
He's a public servant, accountable to every U.S. citizen. Eventually, he will become cognizant of this simple fact.
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Sure but like you he's not required to produce his tax returns for the public.......
Chris B.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Sure but like you he's not required to produce his tax returns for the public.......
Chris B.
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Certainly, but I never said I would. I never promised things just to get elected, though I did get two votes in the presidential election before this last.
 
alfaniner said:
One of the religious guys said something to the effect that "If it rains, it's God's blessing", thereby having every instance covered. A lightning strike would have been cool, though.
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Yea that was Graham. I thought his prayer/speech was a bit odd. He spoke just after the Rabbi finished his. The Rabbi quoted Old Testament which was fine, Graham quoted New Testament, which was also fine. But the odd thing was when Graham started selling Jesus as the only way to God.......a bit of a poke at the Rabbi IMO and just a bit odd if not improper. I'm not Jewish but I know a poke when I hear one.
Chris B.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
This is negative as hell, but again, if you believe it, it may not sound that way:
Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities, rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation, an education system flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge and the crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. This American carnage stops right here and stops right now....

We've defended other nations' borders, while refusing to defend our own, and spent trillions and trillions of dollars overseas, while America's infrastructure has fallen into disrepair and decay. We've made other countries rich while the wealth, strength and confidence of our country has dissipated over the horizon. One by one, the factories shuttered and left our shores with not even a thought about the millions and millions of American workers that were left behind. The wealth of our middle class has been ripped from their homes and then redistributed all across the world.
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The rest is rah rah rah cheerleading.
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And then he blamed it all on corrupt politicians who have gotten rich while everyone else suffered. But as his first official decree, the Boy King of the USA declared that all this American carnage stops right here, right now. Now, after telling his flock not to believe the mainstream fake news, he will be tweeting daily how he is saving America from its formerly hopeless situation.

This is classic fascist demagoguery from a narcissistic authoritarian -- exploit fear, bigotry, and resentment against stereotyped scapegoats, and then promise salvation through his strong leadership -- brought into the 21st Century where alternate realities can be created and maintained by alternate facts distributed in seconds through an alternate media.

But yes, some people found fascist speeches "uplifting" the last time around, too.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Sure but like you he's not required to produce his tax returns for the public.......
Chris B.
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You're right he's not required to do that. Other presidents have done so not because they were required but because it's the right thing to do and to build some trust with the public. As we know Trump simply wants your blind trust. He wants to be able to lie to you over and over and over again but still know that you will trust him. Being president used to special and the office itself was deserving of respect. Trump is working very hard at dispensing with anything that would make the president presidential. He wants to lower expectations so that if he happens to do something that is good for the country, his blind trusting followers will be grateful for whatever crumbs it is that fall from his napkin.
 
Carnage
Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities, rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation, an education system flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge and the crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. This American carnage stops right here and stops right now...
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The carnage stops here is an uplifting message. He is describing a bad condition that exists and says now is the time to change it. Why isn't that uplifting.
Does anyone deny that those conditions exist? Does anyone think carnage is an inaccurate adjective to describe what is happening because of gangs in some inner cities?

If Trump had been the one who said the only thing we have to fear is fear itself the media would have said it was dark.

Personally I think the speech was like most inaugural speeches I am aware of. A lot of fluff with no actual details.
 
Spindrift said:
You're right he's not required to do that. Other presidents have done so not because they were required but because it's the right thing to do and to build some trust with the public. As we know Trump simply wants your blind trust. He wants to be able to lie to you over and over and over again but still know that you will trust him. Being president used to special and the office itself was deserving of respect. Trump is working very hard at dispensing with anything that would make the president presidential. He wants to lower expectations so that if he happens to do something that is good for the country, his blind trusting followers will be grateful for whatever crumbs it is that fall from his napkin.
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As long as he continues to keep his campaign promises as he has been doing with the Executive Orders he issued today, I don't care what his tax returns say. He's not the first President that did not release his tax returns. If it wasn't a big deal then why is it now? Non issue.
Chris B.
 
Spindrift said:
The FEC form is very non-specific and does not have the information that would show that Trump isn't worth anywhere near what he claims to be worth.
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You do realize that tax returns can reveal very little about what a person is worth.

And who cares what he is worth?
 
eeyore1954 said:
Personally I think the speech was like most inaugural speeches I am aware of. A lot of fluff with no actual details.
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Actually it contains actual details...

"This American carnage stops right here and stops right now..."

He is specific about where and when the carnage stops. Therefore, unlike most inaugural speeches it is highly detailed.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
As long as he continues to keep his campaign promises as he has been doing with the Executive Orders he issued today, I don't care what his tax returns say. He's not the first President that did not release his tax returns. If it wasn't a big deal then why is it now? Non issue.
Chris B.
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Well, it isn't about just you.
https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...-trump-will-release-his-tax-returns/21661076/
Contrary to Conway's claims, an ABC News/Washington Post poll released on Monday found that 74% of Americans say Trump should release his tax returns . . .
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And Ms. Alternate Facts tweeted today:
On taxes, answers (& repeated questions) are same from campaign: POTUS is under audit and will not release until that is completed . . .
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ChrisBFRPKY said:
As long as he continues to keep his campaign promises as he has been doing with the Executive Orders he issued today, I don't care what his tax returns say. He's not the first President that did not release his tax returns. If it wasn't a big deal then why is it now? Non issue.
Chris B.
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Very big issue and a lot of people are concerned including half the people that voted for him.

One of his campaign promises was to release his tax returns. Times change, things are more complicated. What reason does he have for not releasing it, unless there's something that could be bad. The audit is a red herring and notice he doesn't mention it now. He lied to you and the country about releasing the returns. But that's not a surprise is it? He lies constantly about big things and little things.
 
Trump just suggested he thinks reinvading Iraq and seizing it's oil is a good idea.........
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Under the advice of his attorney he did not release them during the audit. Though he offered to release them in conflict with his attorney's advice if Hillary would release her emails. Who didn't release what? You can be miffed that he didn't release his tax returns, which he is not legally required to do so, and I'll be miffed that Hillary didn't release her emails, which she is not legally required to do so.

Now as far as Donald Trump's financials, there was a 104 page
disclosure filed with the Federal Elections Commission. If you need to know something, perhaps you should look there.
Chris B.
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And you can be miffed if, once again, I make a reading comprehension reference.

I, personally, am not miffed that he doesn't release his tax returns. I thought that was clear from my post. However, I am somewhat miffed that he lied about it. I am even more miffed that he lied so blatantly and obviously, and yet people did not and still do not see through the lies.

Oh, well. I believe it was Lincoln who first popularized the phrase, "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time." We'll see how many remain fooled in a couple of years.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Opinion.
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The fact that Donald "Hasn't Divested Himself of His Business Interests or Put Them in a Blind Trust" Trump will therefore be lining his pockets while the American worker suffers (including not a few whose discomfort he himself caused) is an "opinion?"

Say, what might be your "opinion" of the moisture properties of water?

The election is over, there is no need to release them.
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Please put the goalposts back where you found them. Your claim: It's not a requirement to agree or disagree with what he said but one must acknowledge the fact that he did not deviate from anything he said he would do during the campaign has been disproven by my citing his current position that he will not be releasing the returns.

Look, I've noticed your fondness for saying opposition to Trump is based on political persuasion/affiliation. Maybe that's true for some. I can only tell you that, as far as I'm concerned, were the man a Democrat, an Independent, or even a direct descendant of George Washington and a bald eagle, he'd still be Donald "The Notorious P.I.G." Trump.
 
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Spindrift said:
Well he did say he's smarter than our generals. Maybe he should lead the invasion.
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Give him a jeep and a chromed Patton helmet. Let him lead the army the way the great generals of his imagination did.
 
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