Cont: Trump’s Coup - Part 2

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Babbylonian said:
Shouldn't there be equal concern that people who would travel all the way across the country for a lame duck Trump rally are almost certainly people who believe that Trump won the election and/or that Biden should not be inaugurated?
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True, but being stupid isn't a fireable offense. It should be but it isn't.
 
Horatius said:
Moving the Inauguration would be a huge mistake, in that it it would be a huge symbolic win for the MAGAts: "Look at them running scared from us Patriots!" There have a been a lot of arrests the last two days, but you know there's still tens of thousands of like-minded idiots still out there.

As dangerous as it might be, Biden needs to stand in the exact place they tried to deny him, to show them that they failed to deny him that spot.

Every government employee in DC who carries a gun should be on duty, and the crowd allowed onto the Mall to watch the Inauguration will have to be extremely well vetted and searched, but a public Inauguration on the steps of the Capitol is absolutely essential at this moment.
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I'm going to suggest any further attempts at disrupting the process are going to be met with a little more resistance.

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pgwenthold said:
I'm going to suggest any further attempts at disrupting the process are not going to be met with a little more resistance.
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Or are?

FYI, the Maryland National Guard Unit that is on site has been mobilized through the inauguration.
 
trustbutverify said:
Yesterday on npr, a journalist claimed the FBI could identify everyone who was in that building with an active phone, to a position within two or three feet, through the provider's data streams. If that's true, they might even be able to ID the MAGA responsible for killing one of the cops. It seems practically all of the attackers had their phones on throughout the attack.
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I don't know how that would work, unless they have triangulation data from cell towers.

I have heard claims that they can do it from the public wifi, but that would only give them which server they were logged into and not the specific position.
 
pgwenthold said:
Quick question: what did she have in her backpack?

She wasn't "breaking the law" she was trying to break into the chambers where leaders of our federal government were sequestered. She was carrying a large pack on her back.

She was actively attacking congress.

That's a little more than "breaking the law." It's not like she was jaywalking.
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Breaking the law (which she was) is irrelevant. Her backpack is irrelevant. Breaking through that door was reasonably perceived as a threat to life and stopping it needed to be that officer's highest priority. His position at that moment should have been that he needed to shoot once to stop her and hope that he had enough bullets left to use on whoever would be following her (fortunately no one else tried).
 
pgwenthold said:
I don't know how that would work, unless they have triangulation data from cell towers.

I have heard claims that they can do it from the public wifi, but that would only give them which server they were logged into and not the specific position.
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I wonder if the Capitol Police or FBI have monitoring set up on the towers in the area, sort like a permanent Stingray.

Or is that in the next budget?
 
Darat said:
The mob seems to be pretty much middle class folk.
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About a week before, over on the OANN comment section an alleged Architect showed up and announced that he would be traveling across the country to be there on the sixth. I wonder if he made the FBI list?
 
Dr. Keith said:
I wonder if the Capitol Police or FBI have monitoring set up on the towers in the area, sort like a permanent Stingray.

Or is that in the next budget?
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That would take some foresight, but it could be.

Off topic but related:
A few years ago, I got a message from the university IT that said that my course had been identified as a course that was classified as "attendance critical," in that there was a very strong correlation between class attendance and success in the course.

I was like, I'm glad to hear it, but I have to ask, how in the hell do you know that? I don't even take attendance in class, how do you?

What they did was to track student location by looking at whether they logged into the wifi routers in the classroom, so they could see who, among the students with phones or computers, were there.

You might complain about "big brother watching you" but the university's position is that the students are logging in to the university's wifi system, so they aren't tracking the students, it's the students who are telling the university where they are.

I always tell my students this story at the beginning of the semester, and warn them that if they don't want the university to know where they are, they need to turn off the wifi on their phones. If the wifi is on, the university can track your location all over campus.
 
pgwenthold said:
I don't know how that would work, unless they have triangulation data from cell towers.

I have heard claims that they can do it from the public wifi, but that would only give them which server they were logged into and not the specific position.
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The level of detail is dictated by the specific setup. The equipment, the geography, the software. This all varies from base station to carrier. Antennas are directional. Their range is also limited to their power settings. They could possibly tell if someone is in a specific hallway. You can also get an idea through antenna handoffs.

The latest equipment and software availabe today is amazing and is always changing but the cell networks out there are a giant mishmash of much older equipment and state of the art.
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acbytesla said:
The level of detail is dictated by the specific setup. The equipment, the geography, the software. This all varies from base station to carrier. Antennas are directional. Their range is also limited to their power settings. They could possibly tell if someone is in a specific hallway. You can also get an idea through antenna handoffs.

The latest equipment and software availabe today is amazing and is always changing but the cell networks out there are a giant mishmash of much older equipment and state of the art.
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My MapMyRun app is able to determine it's own location, but that's because it looks for tower signals to do it. What we are talking about here is harder, coming from the other direction, and is a LOT of data.
 
Elagabalus said:
About a week before, over on the OANN comment section an alleged Architect showed up and announced that he would be traveling across the country to be there on the sixth. I wonder if he made the FBI list?
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UPDATE:I just found his posts again and I see he references DD from this non-article.

GOP in the Senate had better smarten up. Dinesh lays it all out. (General Dispatch)

I haven't seen Dinesh D'Souza mentioned yet. I wonder what **** he was saying leading up to the sixth and what he's saying now?
 
pgwenthold said:
My MapMyRun app is able to determine it's own location, but that's because it looks for tower signals to do it. What we are talking about here is harder, coming from the other direction, and is a LOT of data.
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Your cell phone has multiple radios in it. A cell phone radio, a GPS radio, a WIFI radio, a bluetooth radio. Depending on what is running, the cell antenna and base station can log a tremendous amount of data including your GPS location which can pinpoint your location within feet. However, it might not be able to know say what floor you're on. But there are many reasons why the carrier would only log a minimum amout of that data and not have that data available for law enforcement.
 
Dr. Keith said:
I wonder if the Capitol Police or FBI have monitoring set up on the towers in the area, sort like a permanent Stingray.

Or is that in the next budget?
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I’ve heard these are in the next security budget:

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