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Cont: Trump’s Coup - Part 2

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America elected Trump, in spite of Trump...and tried to do it twice...amazingly. Wake up, Democratic party.
 
Warp12 said:
America elected Trump, in spite of Trump...and tried to do it twice...amazingly. Wake up, Democratic party.
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Actually, America voted against Trump twice, when you look at the popular vote. To be accurate, one might say that some Americans voted for Trump twice, but fewer than those that did not.*



*Unless you buy into the crazy rigged election nonsense.
 
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Actually, America voted against Trump twice, when you look at the popular vote. To be accurate, one might say that some Americans voted for Trump twice, but fewer than those that did not.*



*Unless you buy into the crazy rigged election nonsense.
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Uhh, I guess we need to talk about why the electoral college matters, and why so many voted for Trump? Nah.
 
Warp12 said:
Uhh, I guess we need to talk about why the electoral college matters, and why so many voted for Trump? Nah.
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Uhh, you made an assertion that America voted for Trump; I countered that with facts. If you had typed Trump won the electoral college once, you'd have been more accurate, but as far as the U.S. voting public is concerned, he lost twice, by millions of votes. If you want to pretend you're version is correct, I won't stop you.

If you want to derail the thread with your version, I can't stop you.
 
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Uhh, you made an assertion that America voted for Trump; I countered that with facts. If you had typed Trump won the electoral college once, you'd have been more accurate, but as far as the U.S. voting public is concerned, he lost twice, by millions of votes If you want to pretend you're version is correct, I won't stop you.

If you want to derail the thread with your version, I can't stop you.
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Yawn. Avoid my point. That is what is to blame for a ridiculous Trump presidency, and 74 million votes in the second election, and what some laughingly call a "Coup".

It is like Democrats are determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
 
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Yawn. Avoid my point. That is what is to blame for a ridiculous Trump presidency, and 74 million votes in the second election, and what some laughingly call a "Coup".
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You seem to be hoping that The Chosen One will be properly reinstated at President in August.

But the fact is, the majority of voters, in each election, voted for the other guy.
 
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Yawn. Avoid my point.
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Snicker. You didn't make one, you just imagined you did.
That is what is to blame for a ridiculous Trump presidency, and 74 million votes in the second election
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Which he lost by 74 electoral votes, and roughly 7 million popular votes. This is what happens in many elections. Have you noticed?
and what some laughingly call a "Coup".
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At least you're hovering somewhere near the topic.
 
Shalamar said:
You seem to be hoping that The Chosen One will be properly reinstated at President in August.
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Garbage argument. Untrue.

But the fact is, the majority of voters, in each election, voted for the other guy.
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Did I say otherwise? No. But if you don't think 74M says there might be a problem with the Dem platform...wake up. We have an electoral college for a reason, I'm afraid. So, that is just an argument that holds no merit, popular vote, and is ready to embrace history repeating itself. Including a pretend "Coup".
 
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People are pointing at QAnon, and such things, and ignoring the obvious fact that the Democrats are failing with their policy. It isn't like this was a blowout win.

It is easier to point fingers than accept any accountability. If you want to avoid such peril in the future, including the "coup", look in the mirror. Don't blame the voters for the past two results, nor their outrage.
 
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I don't think he needs a formal army per se. But credible force is an absolute necessity. He simply had none. His followers were too weak and uncommitted to do much of anything, in the big picture. A lot of shouting, but at throw down time, they simply didn't.

Jan 6 was the opportunity, like none we have ever seen before. Even the most tentative wannabe kinda-sorta fascist would have seized that moment. A bully would say " Oh **** I'm going to hide". Which did he do?

In each and every opportunity, he took the non-fascist and cowardly way out. He was talk and little else. My fear remains of an *actual* neo-fascist to step up, not the all bluster schoolyard bully who is too weak to throw down.
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Comment from the news, sorry lost track of who said it, paraphrasing: Trump could not carry out a coup because he's not smart enough but mostly because he can't think ahead which a coup would require.
 
Warp12 said:
Garbage argument. Untrue.



Did I say otherwise? No. But if you don't think 74M says there might be a problem with the Dem platform...wake up. We have an electoral college for a reason, I'm afraid. So, that is just an argument that holds no merit, popular vote, and is ready to embrace history repeating itself. Including a pretend "Coup".
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There's no real problems with the 'Dem Platform'. It just seems that Republicans have been fed lies about the Democratic party ("They're gonna take yer guns away!") and conservatives want an authoritarian one party conservative state.
 
Warp12 said:
People are pointing at QAnon, and such things, and ignoring the obvious fact that the Democrats are failing with their policy. It isn't like this was a blowout win.

It is easier to point fingers than accept any accountability. If you want to avoid such peril in the future, including the "coup", look in the mirror. Don't blame the voters for the past two results, nor their outrage.
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"It is easier to point fingers than accept any accountability," : which is exactly what you are doing. You're blaming Democrats for the idiocy of the people who voted for Trump. It can't be because these people are just right-wing and attracted to Trump's message of anti-immigration, anti-abortion, dog whistle racism and bigotry, or religious nuts who think Trump is God's Chosen One. Oh, no...it's because the Democrats are failing to embrace these people into their policy platform to become just as anti-whatever as they are.

And you were also wrong with you said "America elected Trump" for the reasons already stated. But you are right about one thing: we need to talk about the electoral college which enables someone to be elected against the votes of the majority of Americans. Americans didn't elect Trump. An anachronistic and unfair electoral college system did and it needs to go. No other democratic country in the world uses such a stupid system and no other official in the US is elected by anything other than popular vote.
 
CapelDodger said:
Given that the Republican Party ran without any platform at all, are you actually promoting "no platform" as a policy?
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Why would the Republicans need a platform? The Dems made one for them.

Literally, the Dem platform was so bad that Trump was nearly elected twice, and there was a supposed "Coup". But nope, must be the fault of those 74M voters.

Amazing.
 
CapelDodger said:
Reasons which no longer pertain, in a world that no longer exists. You just can't get away with "one black person is worth 2/3 of a white person" in this PC-dominated society.
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Correction: 3/5ths. And to add to the funny, it was the slave owners who wanted to count them as full people, but only when it benefited them politically.
 
Belz... said:
Correction: 3/5ths. And to add to the funny, it was the slave owners who wanted to count them as full people, but only when it benefited them politically.
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My bad.


The bald truth is that the economic proportion of the plantation states in the proposed union was not reflected in their white populations. Hence Northerners would run (and win) on a platform of "Free Beer" and Southerners would have to pay for it. Not unreasonable, really. Just consider how today's South makes out on Northern taxes.
 
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