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Trump's Coup d'état.

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Yahoo news feed: GOP leaders in 4 states quash dubious Trump bid on electors
Republican leaders in four critical states won by President-elect Joe Biden say they won’t participate in a legally dubious scheme to flip their state’s electors to vote for President Donald Trump. Their comments effectively shut down a half-baked plot some Republicans floated as a last chance to keep Trump in the White House.

State GOP lawmakers in Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have all said they would not intervene in the selection of electors, who ultimately cast the votes that secure a candidate's victory. Such a move would violate state law and a vote of the people, several noted.
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Can we put this hypothetical nothingberder to rest yet?
 
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Cain said:
What blogs? These blogs speak more to mainstream conservatism than, say, Sean Hannity? Mark Levine?

I poked my head into National Review's blog. There was a posting about a podcast by The Editors about Biden's win. It garnered over 700 comments (which is much higher than usual), most of them upset that NR was run by sell-outs.

The thing about the conservative press is that many of the mouthpieces are afraid of their audience.
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And yet the National Review still did a podcast about Biden's win. It's over. Yes, he's still insisting he won. You didn't think losing the election was gong to stop his twitterrhia, did you? Yes he should accept defeat gracefully, but like the scorpion said to the frog, it's not in his nature.
 
Brainster said:
And yet the National Review still did a podcast about Biden's win. It's over. Yes, he's still insisting he won. You didn't think losing the election was gong to stop his twitterrhia, did you? Yes he should accept defeat gracefully, but like the scorpion said to the frog, it's not in his nature.
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NR also published an issue dedicated entirely to opposing Trump... then puckered up to kiss ass. Yes, Biden won, but a lot of Trump supporters don't recognize it. And can we just focus on the adjacent-argument you're making: The blogs you read recognize that Biden's won. Yeah, and how much sway do they have? Other right-wingers regularly read NR, and enthusiastically disagree with the line over there. Rich Lowry and Kevin Williamson do not have nearly the same pull as Sean Hannity or Mark Levine.

As for Trump, yes, of course he will continue doing his thing on Twitter, but let's not fall into the in-retrospect-everything-is-obvious trap. If he runs again in 2024, people will say, "I knew it!" And if he doesn't, they'll say the same. damn. thing. I know Trump cares about receiving attention, but I'm not always sure how he'll pursue it.
 
Cain said:
NR also published an issue dedicated entirely to opposing Trump... then puckered up to kiss ass. Yes, Biden won, but a lot of Trump supporters don't recognize it. And can we just focus on the adjacent-argument you're making: The blogs you read recognize that Biden's won. Yeah, and how much sway do they have? Other right-wingers regularly read NR, and enthusiastically disagree with the line over there. Rich Lowry and Kevin Williamson do not have nearly the same pull as Sean Hannity or Mark Levine.

As for Trump, yes, of course he will continue doing his thing on Twitter, but let's not fall into the in-retrospect-everything-is-obvious trap. If he runs again in 2024, people will say, "I knew it!" And if he doesn't, they'll say the same. damn. thing. I know Trump cares about receiving attention, but I'm not always sure how he'll pursue it.
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I think the Trump family should rent out a few stadiums across the land so DJT can continue making speeches to eager audiences. Call it "My Four Years" or something like that, and have him tour in perpetuity or until he dies. Did you see his speeches? The man was in the "zone".
 
Elagabalus said:
I think the Trump family should rent out a few stadiums across the land so DJT can continue making speeches to eager audiences. Call it "My Four Years" or something like that, and have him tour in perpetuity or until he dies. Did you see his speeches? The man was in the "zone".
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My bet is Trump will fizzle fast once he's out of the office. Twitter will certainly ban him. Other Republicans with political aspirations will be seeking to replace him. Trump will be facing serious legal issues and will lack the protection being the president provided him.

The last President that tried to regain the Presidency after leaving the office was Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt that is. And the only one successful doing it was Grover Cleveland, a Democrat.
 
And his army is ready!

A million MAGAs descended on Washington.

According to Kayleigh McHaw-Haw.

Maybe 5,000. Close.

Top effort.
 
acbytesla said:
My bet is Trump will fizzle fast once he's out of the office. Twitter will certainly ban him. Other Republicans with political aspirations will be seeking to replace him. Trump will be facing serious legal issues and will lack the protection being the president provided him.

The last President that tried to regain the Presidency after leaving the office was Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt that is. And the only one successful doing it was Grover Cleveland, a Democrat.
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I'm not so sure he'll be banned. Suspended, more likely, when he crosses he line. More than once. Does twitter have a limit as to how many times a person can be suspended before being permanently banned?
 
acbytesla said:
Twitter will certainly ban him.
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After the presidency, I understand he'll need lawyers to scrub his account because he faces legal exposure (defamation lawsuits). As for Twitter banning him, I agree with Stacy. They'll try not to (they invented reasons to avoid banning him before). He's their biggest star. Others may have more followers, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump is #1 in terms of engagement, and that's what really counts.
 
Cain said:
After the presidency, I understand he'll need lawyers to scrub his account because he faces legal exposure (defamation lawsuits). As for Twitter banning him, I agree with Stacy. They'll try not to (they invented reasons to avoid banning him before). He's their biggest star. Others may have more followers, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump is #1 in terms of engagement, and that's what really counts.
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That may be, but do you think that's because he's the president?

ETA: I mean, eventually he may be indistinguishable from someone's crazy screaming uncle.
 
Cain said:
After the presidency, I understand he'll need lawyers to scrub his account because he faces legal exposure (defamation lawsuits). As for Twitter banning him, I agree with Stacy. They'll try not to (they invented reasons to avoid banning him before). He's their biggest star. Others may have more followers, but I wouldn't be surprised if Trump is #1 in terms of engagement, and that's what really counts.
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His Twitter account may be scrubbed but my understanding is that the Tweets have to be archived (whether by Twitter or not, I don't know) as Official Presidential Communications. I have to wonder if all the comments are required to be saved also.
 
alfaniner said:
His Twitter account may be scrubbed but my understanding is that the Tweets have to be archived (whether by Twitter or not, I don't know) as Official Presidential Communications. I have to wonder if all the comments are required to be saved also.
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My guess is no.

I also don't believe it would be Twitter's responsibility. The GSA maybe?
 
alfaniner said:
His Twitter account may be scrubbed but my understanding is that the Tweets have to be archived (whether by Twitter or not, I don't know) as Official Presidential Communications. I have to wonder if all the comments are required to be saved also.
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I'm 100% sure they will be archived after the Twitter account is deleted. If not by an official instance, then by probably a lot of many different private actors.
 
acbytesla said:
My guess is no.

I also don't believe it would be Twitter's responsibility. The GSA maybe?
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Remember it's not about what's required, but whether it's enforceable. If they are not archived, oops we forgot, what happens?
 
gnome said:
Remember it's not about what's required, but whether it's enforceable. If they are not archived, oops we forgot, what happens?
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Doesn't matter. There have been people copying every tweet. Even the deleted ones.
 
Brainster said:
And yet the National Review still did a podcast about Biden's win. It's over. Yes, he's still insisting he won. You didn't think losing the election was gong to stop his twitterrhia, did you? Yes he should accept defeat gracefully, but like the scorpion said to the frog, it's not in his nature.
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The problem is all those people who should be working to assist the transition and are instead parroting the Trump line and engaging in obstructive behaviour. They are not going to do their jobs until Trump concedes.
 
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