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Trump's Coup d'état.

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It appears that Trump was trying to find support for an attempt at a Coup. I'm happy that he did not find that support. I think it's because he's a LOSER! LOL. Loser Trump. Donald Lame Duck.
 
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slyjoe said:
That may be, but do you think that's because he's the president?

ETA: I mean, eventually he may be indistinguishable from someone's crazy screaming uncle.
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Of course it's because he's the president. His words will have less meaning when he's given the boot, but he will always be a former president. The press reported Bush's unremarkable comments about Biden's victory because his words still carry weight. They're newsworthy. This is more so the case for Trump, who is poised to "lead" a movement (yes, it's actually just a self-glorifcation project).
 
Cain said:
Of course it's because he's the president. His words will have less meaning when he's given the boot, but he will always be a former president. The press reported Bush's unremarkable comments about Biden's victory because his words still carry weight. They're newsworthy. This is more so the case for Trump, who is poised to "lead" a movement (yes, it's actually just a self-glorifcation project).
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Being a former president does garner some attention, but if George W had a twitter account (does he? I don't even know) it certainly wouldn't have near the traffic of Trump's. If George W. had one and broke all their rules, I doubt they would give him a pass because of his former preisdent status and the traffic that drives.

There's no shortage of celebrities on Twitter and they've been happy to permanently suspend a fair amount of them. Trump may retain a celebrity status out of office, but I'd be surprised if a year out he still commanded anything in the vicinity of his current traffic.

They've had no problem banning Steve Bannon, David Icke, David Duke and many others with significant followings.

I suspect that, regardless of what Trump tries to do out of office, most of the party will move on to a new figurehead. He may keep a loyal core, but if he stays out of prison, I suspect he''l be slightly more popular that Sarah Palin within four years. That wouldn't make him too much of a cash cow.
 
Cavemonster said:
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That wouldn't make him too much of a cash cow.
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More Golden Goose, surely. Boston Matrix will have to add 'Golden Goose' to their labelling. More useless business jargon meaning: 'Ousted CEO who tweets in his spare time, 'I WON!'

Investment advice: 'Steer clear of this one and invest in the new one. Remember, the Golden Goose ended up badly.'
 
The Don said:
Very concerning. :(

It ain't over 'til it's over.

GOP senators have shown that they're willing to do whatever they can to keep President Trump in post.
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Yes. As I have indicated here, I am not reassured by "it's against the rules" or by the fact that various state level Republican politicians have said they will not do that. Clearly, people say one thing & do another all the time and laws and conventions only work if they are enforced (and statements made by politicians are subject to revision at a later time).

I still think that we are not heading that way (if nothing else, the demented Rudy Giuliani being in charge of the legal effort is very reassuring :p ). I think 5.5 million votes and the 306 Electoral College result might make the difference. However, I also think the same politicians and a 3 million popular vote difference with a smaller (but clear) Electoral College difference might be more amenable to the subversion of the electorate by these folk.

It is extremely troubling, in any case, that US House & Senate Republicans are playing this for advantage. These are politicians who are showing themselves willing to subvert the electorate. Potentially, only the state level politicians are preventing this from actually executing (in the meantime the US legislative level Republicans are egging on extremists).
 
Those Senators can support Trump all they want to, it doesn't change the fact there is no power behind the curtains. The military is not backing this imaginary coup.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Those Senators can support Trump all they want to, it doesn't change the fact there is no power behind the curtains. The military is not backing this imaginary coup.
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But will it overthrow congress if the senate does that? Will the military install Biden if the political mechanism don't?
 
ponderingturtle said:
But will it overthrow congress if the senate does that? Will the military install Biden if the political mechanism don't?
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All they have to do is for the Aide carrying the nuclear football to not show up one morning at the White House an instead start hanging out with Biden.
I'm pretty sure even the Republicans will get the message.
 
many republicans have signaled they recognize a biden victory even as they placate Trump's delicate feelings
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
This has been discussed ad nauseum. The state legislators said they were not going to do this.

It would seem the fear mongering is still selling the news.
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If Republican leaders came out and said that Joe Biden is the President elect then there'd be much less traction for this kind of thing. Instead we have them supporting President Trump, echoing his "every legal vote", supporting his lawsuits and making reference to a second Trump term.

People would be more sanguine about an orderly transfer of power if the GOP seemed at all interested in it. Instead they seem to be doing everything they can to obstruct and frustrate. At the moment it's "just" not allowing the release of funds for the transition and not allowing Joe Biden access to security briefings - in part because the US public aren't making a big deal out of it.

If they (they in this case being both the national Republican leadership and the state leaders in those states) think that the blowback will be worth it, then why not take these entirely legal steps ?

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We've heard it so many times in recent years, "They won't/can't do that". Whether it's refusing even to consider a SCOTUS nominee and then forcing through another in similar circumstances, the myriad cases of President Trump behaving in ways which would have bene previously unthinkable or embracing groups who would otherwise be anathema to the party, the GOP is breaking new ground all the time. :mad:
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Is this a joke? :boggled:

I don't get it.
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You said they would not install Trump but in the event that the coup language moves up to actual coup, would they stand against it or stand asside?

Right now we have the situation where they seem to be laying the ground work for a coup that they seem to be not serious about, but there is no internal blowback from the laying the groundwork for a coup.
 
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