True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

[westprog]

From what I read, coming onto a radio or TV program to advocate doubt against CT's is rewarding financially

I believe that 10% of the global economy goes to people debunking CT's on the radio. Is there anyone on JREF who isn't superrich?

and is a bias position once taken, for then that apparrent skepticism must ALWAYS be against those against the cons of the government and ALWAYS for the government.

Sketpicism is fine if it is open minded, but when it becomes a tool of the goverment and those doing the con, then we have a whole new con and conspiracy. A con to cover up the con...

Oh my how the plot thickens, but the false skeptics love their governments so much, they see them with rose coloured glasses, even though they deem themselves skeptics. How that's a twisting of the truth, false skeptics pretending to be true skeptics. Who would have suspected. I didn;t think anyone would have the balls to make such a con...

It's the standard CT lie - but has anyone on JREF ever offered as the main argument against the big conspiracy theories that the government is too nice to do something bad? It's the ultimate strawman.

I thought I had heard it all before coming HERE, but this twisting of truth is an eye openner.

DJJ - when you tell lies, Baby Jesus cries. Do you think you can get away without accounting for everything you say and do?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

which is a typical summary of CT thinking. Don't vote, set up a web page. The system is rotten, and indestructible. You can't change anything, so don't try - just whine about it. And They are all the same.

Democracy was created to govern around 5,000 people ONLY as Plato and the Greeks realized..(1x2x3x4x5x6x7) After that it is easily controlled through vote manipulation....but the systemites don't care as long as they have their little piece of the system, and their robotic niche.

So West, at least you have stated your alligiance to the rotten system, and seem to think its O.K. because you are part of it and not fighting its attrocities.

But the honest and courageous to try to protect human values that the bovernment and big brother tread upon, especially when they take their wars overseas for the greed of their own citizens and for the greed of the rich that run the war industries.

And of course, the systemites can then excuse themselves for not speaking up against atrocities or not having a website that speaks up, giving them free reign to post nothingness and total acceptance and resignation to big brother policies.

I prefer the truth seekers rather than the Anti Conspiracy Theorists, the ACTors that act like everything is O.K. and their rotten system doesn;t smell so bad after all.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

False skepics do nothing and whine away in the corner of big brothers dog houses, for at least they think they have a master who feds them the crumbs off the table.

True skeptics speak up and try to convince and persuade others to stop being part of the problem.... and start to be part of the solution.

 

[DavidJames]

False skepics do nothing and whine away in the corner of big brothers dog houses, for at least they think they have a master who feds them the crumbs off the table.

True skeptics speak up and try to convince and persuade others to stop being part of the problem.... and start to be part of the solution.

So how's that working out for ya? Most people here think you are delusional, I'm guessing that's the consistent response you'd get from the average group of people. Maybe you can point us to a forum where you're nonsense is welcomed.

 

[beachnut]

Democracy was created to govern around 5,000 people ONLY as Plato and the Greeks realized..(1x2x3x4x5x6x7) After that it is easily controlled through vote manipulation....but the systemites don't care as long as they have their little piece of the system, and their robotic niche.

So West, at least you have stated your alligiance to the rotten system, and seem to think its O.K. because you are part of it and not fighting its attrocities.

But the honest and courageous to try to protect human values that the bovernment and big brother tread upon, especially when they take their wars overseas for the greed of their own citizens and for the greed of the rich that run the war industries.

And of course, the systemites can then excuse themselves for not speaking up against atrocities or not having a website that speaks up, giving them free reign to post nothingness and total acceptance and resignation to big brother policies.

I prefer the truth seekers rather than the Anti Conspiracy Theorists, the ACTors that act like everything is O.K. and their rotten system doesn;t smell so bad after all.

The thread is about you challenged logic about true skeptics. It was a oxymoron kind of topic. Or should that be an anti-oxymoronic topic?

You latest post proves you are still unable to make an argument about anything as you wonder around talking about nothing. If you were able to find the truth I am not sure you would be able to post it with out messing up the truth with your bs talk.

Just a friendly opinion on your fact less talk about having no facts, and unable to figure out why you are fact less for so long on 9/11.

Please, when you find you facts, post them. True skeptics are just that, skeptics. Sorry you took a whole thread to prove you are full of BS, but then anyone here can answer your thread and tell you your thesis is wrong. Good luck next time.

 

[DavidJames]

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[Belz...]

JREF is hiring as it is big business and it is a conspiracy in my opinion.

What part of "foundation" don't you understand ?

Because anyone with half a brain realises that magic bullets don;t kill presidents

Of course they don't. Doesn't take more than three bullets, however. Oh, and one shooter.

, and no matter how many Warren reports cover up these facts of a conspiracy, the rich and powerful do lie, steal, oppress and much worse.

I can see a non-sequitur rearing its ugly head, here.

Any thinking person knows human nature, economics, military useage, and political cons and cover-ups.

Are you going to present evid... oh, that's right. Preaching.

And so it is absolutely ludicrous to establish a skeptic organization to validate all the rich and powerful lies and cons....UNLESS the leader of the organization was duped (I doubt it) or was in on the con.

So... Uri Geller really does bend spoons ?

In other words the Foundation can be a false front to counter truths.

And that mere possibility makes it true ?

But then again, the false skeptics believe every word of their governments

AH! Good! For a while there I thought you were accusing US of beign false skeptics.

Boy, do you guys and gals need an education.

This, from a theist ?

Huh.

 

[Belz...]

False skepics do nothing and whine away in the corner of big brothers dog houses, for at least they think they have a master who feds them the crumbs off the table.

True skeptics speak up and try to convince and persuade others to stop being part of the problem.... and start to be part of the solution.

By... chatting on the web ?

 

[JimBenArm]

False skepics do nothing and whine away in the corner of big brothers dog houses, for at least they think they have a master who feds them the crumbs off the table.

True skeptics speak up and try to convince and persuade others to stop being part of the problem.... and start to be part of the solution.

So when are you going to start doing something instead of hanging around here, sitting on your flabby posterior, and complaining and whining about everything? Hmm?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

So how's that working out for ya? Most people here think you are delusional, I'm guessing that's the consistent response you'd get from the average group of people. Maybe you can point us to a forum where you're nonsense is welcomed.

DJ, being called delusional by the delusional is rational thinking by them.
But the mob atmosphere helps them in confirming their delusional name calling.

Normal rational people can see through government lies and feel helpless because, YES they are helpless when it comes to changing the main core guidance system of the System. Only wierdo's like david icke and unthinking sheep to the slaughter who think their little vote is going to change a nation run by the rich and powerful (Illumunati). That's true delusion, as systemites love their system weven though they think they take it to task on a few minor issues and get a few minor bones thrown at them.

Sorry guys and gals, that's the great mystery why skepticism has been changed from a positive unacce[pting questioning way of thinking, to an accept the main diet of lies the government and the worldly institutions fed you.

Amazing, amazing, but then again the vast majority don;t believe in the Lord, and don't believe in uncovering lies and deceptions and CONS.

If you knew the Lord, he would easily tell you the difference between lies and deceptions.

Jhn 8:32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


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[Davidjayjordan]

So when are you going to start doing something instead of hanging around here, sitting on your flabby posterior, and complaining and whining about everything? Hmm?

Very very true.... Jim...out, out demons of stupidity only works when people want out out of their demons of stupidity.

If one stays too long, instead of witnessing truths and witnessing for the Lord... one wastes time, and time is way too short.

And so surely when I finnish the Prophecy thread and that witness of the future, my time HERE will be over.

But if you have another discussion board that needs a different opinion, do let me know...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Goyeintoall.html

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[jhunter1163]

Why am I suddenly compelled to throw in a reference to the song "In Heaven There Is No Beer?"

 

[T.A.M.]

Why am I suddenly compelled to throw in a reference to the song "In Heaven There Is No Beer?"

What? You've got to be kidding. WEll thats it, I am cancelling my reservations there.

TAM

 

[Paulhoff]

The bible is a lie, it is not writing by any so-called god, get over it DJJ.

Paul

 

[Checkmite]

I prefer the truth seekers rather than the Anti Conspiracy Theorists, the ACTors that act like everything is O.K. and their rotten system doesn;t smell so bad after all.

And I, while well-cognizant and occasionally outspoken about the shortcomings and abuses of my government, do not feel the need to embrace every foundless accusation (for instance, this utter ridiculousness cleverly yclept "the Truth about 9/11") which casts that government in a bad light. The reason for this is simple, of course: problems truly abound, cancelling the need for the invention of any more of the same.

One must recognize that, in the most minimalized sense, a skeptic is one who doubts what he is told; that is true. And it's not difficult to see how one could attempt to apply that label to the "Truth" congregation - as they indeed doubt what they are told by the government and the vast body of science. However, if one is to scrutinize only a little further, it becomes apparent that these fellows do not merely "doubt what they are told", but offer and propound a competing explanation of their own. This relieves them of their skeptical status and relegates them to the class of the "advocate". In this sense, they and the folks here are not fighting each other over who gets to sit on the fence-rail (to borrow a cultural idiom) - they are on opposities sides of that fence and actively arguing their respective positions.

So my own advice (not that I presume to expect you to take it) is to do away with this silly veneer of impartiality you're trying to display; any one can see this particular emperor has no clothes. Leave us "goyim" to be manipulated by our Jewish masters, and take your condescending pretense somewhere it might not be detected.

I suggest the Loose Change forum, as they are hurting for members and likely would dote upon you there.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

EXCELLENT! You have provided a clear definition of what a "false skeptic" is in comparison to a "true skeptic." That being the case, I should like to challenge you to a "true debate". My claims is this:
There is a fire breathing dragon in my garage.

Still waiting DJJ. Are you going to demonstrate how a "true skeptic" takes part in a "true debate" or not?

 

[milesalpha]

Very very true.... Jim...out, out demons of stupidity only works when people want out out of their demons of stupidity.

If one stays too long, instead of witnessing truths and witnessing for the Lord... one wastes time, and time is way too short.

And so surely when I finnish the Prophecy thread and that witness of the future, my time HERE will be over.

But if you have another discussion board that needs a different opinion, do let me know...

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Goyeintoall.html

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Hail to the prophet from Kelowna. Make it up to that university yet? Bus service goes all the way up.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Why am I suddenly compelled to throw in a reference to the song "In Heaven There Is No Beer?"

Surely you jest, J.H. Surely in HELL there is no beer, no life, no love and no enjoyment. Heaven has its elixirs, fine wine and beer and its loves as it is LIFE.

But if you choose hell, your choice. I'm goin' to heaven.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Hail to the prophet from Kelowna. Make it up to that university yet? Bus service goes all the way up.

For prophecy SEE the Religion Board, the thread Prophecy Timeline Challenge..... as the moderators moved it from the Math Board even though it is EXACT.

Or go HERE

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Prophecymysteries.html

 

[gumboot]

Surely you jest, J.H. Surely in HELL there is no beer, no life, no love and no enjoyment. Heaven has its elixirs, fine wine and beer and its loves as it is LIFE.

But if you choose hell, your choice. I'm goin' to heaven.

No you won't. Heaven doesn't exist. After you have died the electrical impulses in your brain will cease. "You" is merely an artifical construct of your consciousness, and it will end when those electrical impulses end. Your body will decompose thanks to millions of micro-organisms and your matter will be recycled back into the earth's eco system.

-Gumboot