Today's Mass Shooting

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News outlets are beginning to report that a total of 10 people have been killed in the mass shooting in Boulder.
 
It's almost refreshing that the murderer's identity hasn't been announced yet, and it doesn't appear to have been shared online either (accurately). Spares us from the expected deluge of fake social media pages "proving" that he's an x.
 
Checkmite said:
Weird article. Its central conceit is, "it is true that most mass shootings are committed by white men when 'mass shooting' is given a definition that matches what most people mean and think of when they colloquially use the term; but, if we change the definition to include another category of multi-victim shootings that most people don't think of when using the term 'mass shooting', that ratio changes" which is just a bizarre contrarian argument; it seems to me like straining to find a way to make the issue more complicated purely for the sake of then having an excuse to "technically disagree". Yes, if we include crimes of a type that people aren't talking about, of course that's going to skew the accuracy of their stated conclusions because those conclusions weren't about the same set of data.
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Also, their own numbers show that the "white" cohort is the largest of all the groupings by skin-colour for mass-shootings. So they are denying their own numbers. It's logic tortured beyond all reasonable levels. That, or they had a result they wanted to fit the data to. ;)
 
There's a video some guy took, it's three hours long but I only watched the first couple of minutes and skimmed the rest. He runs to see what is going on knowing there is a shooter. There are two people lifeless outside, one in the street and one in the parking lot where it looks like his car ran up on the sidewalk.

The guy with the live feed (I guess he's broadcasting it) then walks into one of the store's entrances where two men are coming out walking nonchalantly. He asks where the shooter is and one guy who's on his phone texting says, "He went in there," and motions inside the store. Then he steps into the store a foot or so and points to another lifeless body. It's so odd because the man is not running out. Then you can hear two more shots ring out from inside the store. The man on the phone takes off and the guy with the camera, cussing some more, runs to the other side of the building, then later he runs all the way around the building.

A lot of people escaped out the back and some people hid in a closet in the break room. A couple of those folks were interviewed by the news.

The video won't play on the forum, Youtube wants you to say OK before they'll let you see it. There's no obvious blood, just 3 lifeless bodies. :( Later when they take the perp out you can see his bloody leg. IOW there isn't a lot of gore. There is a lot of NSFW profanity.

It's really only the first couple minutes that is interesting. Watching the guy who was calmly texting and saying the shooter is inside, that was bizarre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikujTMetrUk
 
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The shooter was probably just fed up and had a really bad day. It was Monday after all.
 
I love how the two cops leading the suspect out seem to have said, 'Come this way, Sir, we'll gently get you to an ambulance and a nice comfortable hospital bed, no worries', instead of shooting him dead or sitting on his neck.
 
Vixen said:
I love how the two cops leading the suspect out seem to have said, 'Come this way, Sir, we'll gently get you to an ambulance and a nice comfortable hospital bed, no worries', instead of shooting him dead or sitting on his neck.
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I suppose we could applaud the Boulder PD for their restraint.
 
Tero said:
Enjoy all 16, soon to be 17 "No way to prevent this " stories at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/'No_W...Says_Only_Nation_Where_This_Regularly_Happens

links there
and last one was Atlanta spa murders
https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1846494525
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That is unfortunately true, and true anywhere, not just in the USA. The chances of it happening could be altered in the USA to make it much less likely to occur, as in most civilized countries. But that would require making "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" a priority over the "right to bear arms", instead of the reverse.
 
Steve said:
That is unfortunately true, and true anywhere, not just in the USA. The chances of it happening could be altered in the USA to make it much less likely to occur, as in most civilized countries. But that would require making "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" a priority over the "right to bear arms", instead of the reverse.
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we just need some judges to interpret the 2nd amendment. It seems to deal with states and militias, all in one sentence. Back in the 1700s this was a strictly state by state issue as far as individuals went.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.
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That is, the right to these arms depended on having militias. Whatever arms the militias might need, those are the arms you would keep at home, so you could show up when they rand the bells to call up the men.
 
The Don said:
I suppose we could applaud the Boulder PD for their restraint.
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We should all join in with The Don in applauding the Boulder police for restraining themselves from any rough handling of the suspect in anyway, who deserves our compassion for being a lone wolf angry Trump supporter with a mental health problem - albeit not one that prohibited him from owning an assault rifle - and being made to do what he was made to do. Let's hope he is tucked up in bed with kind nurses bringing him whatever he wants to make him feel happier after a bad day.
 
Tero said:
we just need some judges to interpret the 2nd amendment. It seems to deal with states and militias, all in one sentence. Back in the 1700s this was a strictly state by state issue as far as individuals went.



That is, the right to these arms depended on having militias. Whatever arms the militias might need, those are the arms you would keep at home, so you could show up when they rand the bells to call up the men.
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What I know on this topic has come mainly from reading the many discussions on these forums. It seems to be that the one issue "guns" people are much better organized, focused, and funded than the "life" people. Being able to focus on guns, a single and simple topic plays well with politicians and judges while the intricacies of a right to stay alive are confusing and require too much thought. "Keep it simple and stay elected" seems to be the focus of recent American politics. Shot people are just "collateral damage" (learned that from the US military :D).
 
The Don said:
I suppose we could applaud the Boulder PD for their restraint.
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A recent college party in Boulder turned into a riot, with hundreds of people throwing bottles and bricks at police and first responders, overturning cars, and attacking and damaging emergency vehicles.
Nobody was shot or killed, and six people (last I checked) were calmly arrested in the days after the riot ended. Three guesses what all of the people had in common.
 
Steve said:
That is unfortunately true, and true anywhere, not just in the USA. The chances of it happening could be altered in the USA to make it much less likely to occur, as in most civilized countries. But that would require making "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" a priority over the "right to bear arms", instead of the reverse.
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Exactly we need to view these shootings as a victory for the second amendment, it is working exactly as intended. Tree of liberty and all that.
 
Armitage72 said:
A recent college party in Boulder turned into a riot, with hundreds of people throwing bottles and bricks at police and first responders, overturning cars, and attacking and damaging emergency vehicles.
Nobody was shot or killed, and six people (last I checked) were calmly arrested in the days after the riot ended. Three guesses what all of the people had in common.
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Come on shouldn't someone at least have lost an eye for all that, what is the point of having rubber bullets if you don't get the joy of shooting people in the face with them. That is prime cop comedy right there. Like having a dog tear off some suicidal kids face.
 
Armitage72 said:
A recent college party in Boulder turned into a riot, with hundreds of people throwing bottles and bricks at police and first responders, overturning cars, and attacking and damaging emergency vehicles.
Nobody was shot or killed, and six people (last I checked) were calmly arrested in the days after the riot ended. Three guesses what all of the people had in common.
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That wasn't a riot, it was just youthful high spirits.
 
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