There Really Was Some Voter Fraud!

shemp said:
I heard an interview on NPR today with a county election official in Florida, a Republican, who says his office is tied up with lots of FOIA requests from people convinced the election was stolen. He says the election was not stolen, he found no fraud in his county, and Biden is President. He will probably get primaried in his next election in 2024.
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" He will probably get primaried in his next election in 2024." As in "the little thingey in the center of a rifle round" is called a primer?
 
A couple years ago, I got into a discussion with a conservative ISF member about election fraud. As an example of Democrat voter fraud, the case of a Texas small town mayor, Richard Molina, was brought up.

His high-profile arrest by the state’s election fraud unit in 2019 was announced by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton as part of what he described as “an organized illegal voting scheme” in the November 2017 municipal election.
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According to a 2019 news release from the attorney general’s office, Molina was accused of directing voters to change their addresses to places where they did not live — including an apartment complex owned by Molina — so they could vote for him. Molina won the election by 1,240 votes, unseating then-incumbent Mayor Richard Garcia (R) in the South Texas town.
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The Monitor newspaper in McAllen reported that prosecutors described the case as one “about lying and cheating.”
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Yesterday

Local news outlets reported Molina was acquitted on a 12-count indictment that included one count of engaging in organized voter fraud and 11 counts of illegal voting.
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Worth understanding... was the acquittal because they failed to prove he issued such directions?
 
gnome said:
Worth understanding... was the acquittal because they failed to prove he issued such directions?
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As stated in the article:

During the trial, Molina’s attorneys said he had not intended to violate election laws. They presented a “mistake of law defense,” arguing the former mayor relied on “reasonable authorities” when he instructed voters they could change the address to participate in Edinburg elections, according to reports by The Monitor.
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From Justicia.com:

Mistake of law is a defense that the criminal defendant misunderstood or was ignorant of the law as it existed at the time. The onus is generally placed on individuals to be aware of the laws of their state or community, and thus this defense only applies in very limited circumstances.

Specifically, mistake of law can be used as a defense in four limited circumstances:

When the law has not been published;

When the defendant relied upon a law or statute that was later overturned or deemed unconstitutional;

When the defendant relied upon a judicial decision that was later overruled; or

When the defendant relied upon an interpretation by an applicable official.

Additionally, the defendant’s reliance on any of these sources must have been reasonable, much like mistake of fact.
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The local or state GOP probably made a bunch of rules, and as is their norm hid and obfuscated them as much as possible in their efforts to make it harder for certain folks to vote. This person probably was unable to find the relevant laws.
 
Firestone said:
While I'll admit some schadenfreude, isn't up to 19 years in prison a grotesquely disproportionate punishment?
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The quote says "up to 19 years" which usually means that 19 years is the maximum sentence for the offense, so it is pretty unlikely that the person charged will actually get anything close to that. But yeah, 19 years seems extremely harsh.
 
CORed said:
The quote says "up to 19 years" which usually means that 19 years is the maximum sentence for the offense, so it is pretty unlikely that the person charged will actually get anything close to that. But yeah, 19 years seems extremely harsh.
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Nineteen years is especially hard on all the dead people who voted.:p
 
Shocking news: more voter fraud has been discovered. Not so shocking news: it was for a Republican candidate.

The wife of an Iowa Republican who ran for Congress in 2020 was arrested Thursday and accused of casting 23 fraudulent votes on behalf of her husband.

In an 11-page indictment, prosecutors allege that Kim Phuong Taylor "visited numerous households within the Vietnamese community in Woodbury County," where she collected absentee ballots for people who were not present at the time. Taylor, who was born in Vietnam, then filled out and cast those ballots herself, the indictment alleges, "causing the casting of votes in the names of residents who had no knowledge of and had not consented to the casting of their ballots."

Taylor is also accused of signing voter registration forms on behalf of residents who were not present. In all, prosecutors allege, she engaged in 26 counts of providing false information and voting, three counts of fraudulent registration, and 23 counts of fraudulent voting. Each charge carries a maximum 5-year prison sentence.
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"See, this proves we were right all along!"

More seriously, I would be interested to know how she was caught. That could help publicize how election safeguards prevent this from going on at a large scale.
 
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It was probably pretty basic.

23 people were accused of voting twice (once in person, once by postal ballot).

When contacted, all 23 said: "No, I definitely voted in person, not by mail."

A couple of them may have also said: "Hmm... Mrs X was bragging that she voted 23 times for her husband."

All the postal votes had the same handwriting.

Mrs X put her brag on social media...

To put this in context:

I worked for a while in an investigations/overpayments area for a government department.
Pretty much every case hinged on the thief being breathtakingly stupid.

(For example banking all the cheques into the same account and providing the same photo ID on each occasion.)
 
That doesn't surprise me.

So in this case the successful election safeguard could be checking whether the same person voted two different ways.
 
As Donald Trump clings to claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election, Republicans are still making headlines for actually committing voter fraud. Mehdi Hasan updates the list.
List of Republicans committing voter fraud continues to grow (MSNBC on YouTube, Jan 14, 2023 - 4:21)
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Hey, guess what? Another Republican has been convicted!

Social Media Influencer Douglass Mackey Convicted of Election Interference in 2016 Presidential Race

Defendant Attempted to Suppress Vote Through Social Media Disinformation Campaign

Douglass Mackey, also known as “Ricky Vaughn,” was convicted today by a federal jury in Brooklyn of the charge of Conspiracy Against Rights stemming from his scheme to deprive individuals of their constitutional right to vote. The verdict followed a one-week trial before United States District Judge Ann M. Donnelly. When sentenced, Mackey faces a maximum of 10 years in prison.
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As proven at trial, between September 2016 and November 2016, Mackey conspired with other influential Twitter users and with members of private online groups to use social media platforms, including Twitter, to disseminate fraudulent messages that encouraged supporters of presidential candidate Hillary Clinton to “vote” via text message or social media which, in reality, was legally invalid. For example, on November 1, 2016, in or around the same time that Mackey was sending tweets suggesting the importance of limiting “black turnout,” the defendant tweeted an image depicting an African American woman standing in front of an “African Americans for Hillary” sign. The ad stated: “Avoid the Line. Vote from Home,” “Text ‘Hillary’ to 59925,” and “Vote for Hillary and be a part of history.” The fine print at the bottom of the deceptive image stated: “Must be 18 or older to vote. One vote per person. Must be a legal citizen of the United States. Voting by text not available in Guam, Puerto Rico, Alaska or Hawaii. Paid for by Hillary For President 2016.” The tweet included the typed hashtag “#ImWithHer,” a slogan frequently used by Hillary Clinton. On or about and before Election Day 2016, at least 4,900 unique telephone numbers texted “Hillary” or some derivative to the 59925 text number, which had been used in multiple deceptive campaign images tweeted by Mackey and his co-conspirators.

Several hours after tweeting the first image, Mackey tweeted an image depicting a woman seated at a conference room typing a message on her cell phone. This deceptive image was written in Spanish and mimicked a font used by the Clinton campaign in authentic ads. The image also included a copy of the Clinton campaign’s logo and the “ImWithHer” hashtag.
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Well, I must admit that anyone who fell for such an obvious scheme must be incredibly unintelligent, but that doesn't mean that someone has the right to exploit them. Let's hope he gets the full ten year sentence.
 
More voter fraud, GQP of course:

Georgia GOP vice chair booted for illegally voting 9 times as a convicted felon

Brian K. Pritchard is no longer the vice chairman of the Georgia Republican Party after a large majority of his fellow Republicans voted to remove him from his position this week.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that Pritchard was removed from his role as the party's #2 official after a whopping 86% of the Georgia GOP's state committee supported a motion to oust him. The vote to officially remove Pritchard came after he refused to step down amid revelations that he voted on nine separate occasions despite a prior felony conviction.
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A judge previously issued an administrative ruling that Pritchard had voted illegally on nine separate occasions since 2008 while on probation for felony check forgery. Pritchard, who was elected as vice chairman of the Georgia GOP in 2023, maintained that he did nothing wrong according to current bylaws.
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Pritchard was initially convicted of a felony in 1996, when he was found to have deposited approximately $38,000 in bad checks while running a construction business in Pennsylvania. The Journal-Constitution reported that In 1999, Pritchard testified that he believed his full sentence had been served and that he could once again vote legally. However, prosecutors countered that his sentence was still in place since it had been extended through 2011.
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Almost every case of voter fraud that I've found has been by Republicans. I know; I'm as shocked as the rest of you.
 
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