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Pure Argent said:
Except that it wasn't. Stone chisels, like I said.

Stone is easily hard enough to cut stone. It's a simple matter to cut and smooth stone using other stone.
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Wait...are you saying 'you' think they used 'stones' to do that work?

If THAT is your claim, then I'd argue here and now, that is impossible.

It would have taken more than a century to do that with 'other stones'.
 
King of the Americas said:
*Bock*Bock*Bock*Bock...(that's my best chicken noise)
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Actually, you are the coward. You repeatedly refuse to present any evidence for ancient technology or advanced being who "ascended". I keep asking, you keep dodging. Clearly you have no good evidence other than the things we have found rational explanations for.

See this post, the first of many posts of mine asking for evidence.

King of the Americas said:
And if it can remove more than 4 gm of stone dust an hour, then it was "advanced technology"...
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Prove that such a thing ever existed.

And while you're at it, please respond to the post of mine I linked to asking what your evidence for the "ascension" was.


Still waiting.
 
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King of the Americas said:
And if it can remove more than 4 gm of stone dust an hour, then it was "advanced technology"...
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Or a Masonic Duck?

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King of the Americas said:
Wait...are you saying 'you' think they used 'stones' to do that work?

If THAT is your claim, then I'd argue here and now, that is impossible.

It would have taken more than a century to do that with 'other stones'.
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After your misinformation about Puma Punku and other such artifacts, forgive me if I am a little reluctant to take your word for it.
 
Zanders said:
Actually, you are the coward. You repeatedly refuse to present any evidence for ancient technology or advanced being who "ascended". I keep asking, you keep dodging. Clearly you have no good evidence other than the things we have found rational explanations for.

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Still waiting.
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If we have a paved road, but no paving machine, how might we surmise it was created?

We could say it was laid 'by hand'...? 20 men mixed pea-gravel with hot tar, and spooned shovels of it evenly across the road's surface, as another 20 men operated hand-tampers, to flatten and smooth the surface. The 40 men likely took about 2 days to do it...

OR MAYBE

There is or was an advance paving machine, that took far fewer people to operate, and it was faster.

We have 100 miles of paved road that popped up over the weekend, near a town that can only feed 50 people a day, how did the road get built?

REMEMBER, the road paver hasn't been found.
 
King of the Americas said:
If we have a paved road, but no paving machine, how might we surmise it was created?

We could say it was laid 'by hand'...? 20 men mixed pea-gravel with hot tar, and spooned shovels of it evenly across the road's surface, as another 20 men operated hand-tampers, to flatten and smooth the surface. The 40 men likely took about 2 days to do it...

OR MAYBE

There is or was an advance paving machine, that took far fewer people to operate, and it was faster.

We have 100 miles of paved road that popped up over the weekend, near a town that can only feed 50 people a day, how did the road get built?

REMEMBER, the road paver hasn't been found.
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This place is no paved road. Quit going in circles.

Stop running away and present your evidence of advanced technology beyond, "I don't understand it, therefor it must have been something illogical that we have no proof of existing". This is all speculative nonsense.

It's just as logical as me saying that it was done by magical time-traveling elves that crafted them with their powers. There is just as much proof for those as the advanced technology.

King of the Americas said:
What misinformation...?
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Well, first off you got it's date completely wrong. And then you talked about Atlantis without having any idea what the origin of the Atlantis concept was. You aren't the most thorough.
 
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King of the Americas said:
If we have a paved road, but no paving machine, how might we surmise it was created?

We could say it was laid 'by hand'...? 20 men mixed pea-gravel with hot tar, and spooned shovels of it evenly across the road's surface, as another 20 men operated hand-tampers, to flatten and smooth the surface. The 40 men likely took about 2 days to do it...

OR MAYBE

There is or was an advance paving machine, that took far fewer people to operate, and it was faster.

We have 100 miles of paved road that popped up over the weekend, near a town that can only feed 50 people a day, how did the road get built?

REMEMBER, the road paver hasn't been found.
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OR... 20,000 men did it, each one contributing his little piece to the overall process.
 
Zanders said:
This place is no paved road. Quit going in circles.

Stop running a away and present your evidence of advanced technology beyond, "I don't understand it, therefor it must have been something illogical that we have no proof of existing".
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I DO 'understand the work present', YOU don't.

What we have here is work for 100 master masons to work full time for decades, in a culture that was a farming one...

This means, there's a missing paver, or stone former as it were.
 
King of the Americas said:
I DO 'understand the work present', YOU don't.

What we have here is work for 100 master masons to work full time for decades, in a culture that was a farming one...

This means, there's a missing paver, or stone former as it were.
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Where is your proof that there was ever such technology? Are their writings about? Are there fossilized pieces of it? Where is the proof?

I keep asking and all you can say is "It's so complex, I don't understand how they could have made it".
 
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GeeMack said:
You keep saying that without any support other than your self proclaimed ignorance. Got anything else?
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It's possible he lifted it from one of the UNEXPLAINED MYSTERY sites that had the place dated wrong.
 
Zanders said:
Where is your proof that there was ever such technology? Are their writings about? Are there fossilized pieces of it? Where is the proof?

I keep asking and all you can say is "It's so complex, I don't understand how they could have made it".
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I've never said that.

I have repeatedly said I KNOW what it takes to remove stone, by hand, YOU DON'T

This culture had no written language...which would make passing very specific plans from a master builder down to a subordinate, difficult.
 
King of the Americas said:
I've never said that.

I have repeatedly said I KNOW what it takes to remove stone, by hand, YOU DON'T

This culture had no written language...which would make passing very specific plans from a master builder down to a subordinate, difficult.
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I have a good idea. Why not take this to an archaeologist forum? I'm sure they would have a lot of great info to share with you.

Now, physical proof of the technology existing. Please show it to me, I really want to see it. There had to be some sort of evidence left behind if they used it there. Or how about that proof of them ascending and their technology going with them?
 
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*"This man is dead from a gun shot wound."

"Where's the gun?"

*"We haven't found the gun, yet."

"Then how do you know it was a gun shot?

*"Well we've got this hole, a bullet, and powder burns."

"So, SHOW me the gun."

*"We haven't found it yet."

"THEN HE WASN'T SHOT, NOT WITH A GUN, AT LEAST!"
 
Stray Cat said:
Sorry I missed the bit that said Puma Punku was built in a weekend.

Have you any idea how long it took to build?
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I DIDN'T EVER say any such thing about Puma Punku.

I said it would take working by 'hand'...100 master masons working decades.

OR

less time with 'advanced technology'
 
King of the Americas said:
Did anyone else listen to this?

There are two different kinds of stones at the sight. The older being the more ornate made of andesite, and the largest newer ones being made of sandstone.

I don't and have not proposed "aliens" or "ancient astronauts" performed this task. Rather i have proposed that these work required an army of master masons or an advanced technology, now lost.

The amount of mastery level work would have required more than master level overseers... The work to be executed had to be perfect. This isn't free flow art, each piece had to be exactly like the next, indicating to me that it would have been easier to form some sort of mass production occurred.
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I wonder if you actually listened to this podcast. The Parthenon was built a 1000 years before Puma Punku and was much more impressive, but no one ever thought there was anyone from an advanced civilization involved.
 
Yeah_Right said:
I wonder if you actually listened to this podcast. The Parthenon was built a 1000 years before Puma Punku and was much more impressive, but no one ever thought there was anyone from an advanced civilization involved.
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That is a subjective statement.

And, yes I did listen.

What kind of stones are there again?
 
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