The VFF Test is On!

GeeMack said:
Yes, it's pretty clear that Rodney doesn't understand chance and odds and such things. His contribution to the conversation has pretty much become just noise at this point.
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And in that noise Rodney believes his contributions are significant. Consistent, huh?
 
GeeMack said:
Yes, it's pretty clear that Rodney doesn't understand chance and odds and such things. His contribution to the conversation has pretty much become just noise at this point.
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You're certainly welcome to your opinion, but I'd still like an explanation of how you and McLuvin managed to make the exact same choices for all three rounds.
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
Someone, not one of the Subjects, has a weak heart and knows it and feels it too. No pain or heart attack, just weak contractions and possibly poor stroke volume (the amount of blood that the heart can pump out). Nothing to panic about. Just some exercise and healthy lifestyle would do it.
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Oh, for the love of...

Get a real life, already. :rolleyes:
 
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Moochie said:
Anita is a bright woman who has hit on an idea to make herself more "credible" to the unhealed masses. Give her a little more time so that her message can percolate to the target audience, some of whom have apparently already expressed an interest.

Anita makes protestations of "Nevah!" when it is suggested that she is poised to become the next "wonderful discovery" on Oprah, especially after her heartwarming, fascinating book is released, but eventually she'll be forced to relent when the groundswell of voices of the lame and crippled reaches a crescendo so high that Anita will be "forced" to capitulate and share her amazing ability with the rest of us mere mortals.

I hope that I am wrong, but that particular vision comes from more than a feeling.


M.
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That sums it up pretty well as far as I'm concerned as well.
 
Rodney said:
So does three correct targets and two correct locations. What's your point?
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That picking the wrong kidney on the right target is a 100% miss by the protocol.

Nice spin, but that's not what the protocol clearly stated.
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Such simple logic has no place for spin. If there's spin going on it's the spin of pretending that the right target with the wrong kidney counts for anything in this trial.
 
Originally Posted by VisionFromFeeling
Someone, not one of the Subjects, has a weak heart and knows it and feels it too. No pain or heart attack, just weak contractions and possibly poor stroke volume (the amount of blood that the heart can pump out). Nothing to panic about. Just some exercise and healthy lifestyle would do it.
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Excuse me for a minute...

DEAR SWEET LORD JUMPING JESUS ON A STICK!!!
(Maia runs around in circles screaming for a little while.)

I'm all better now. :)
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
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Someone, not one of the Subjects, has a weak heart and knows it and feels it too. No pain or heart attack, just weak contractions and possibly poor stroke volume (the amount of blood that the heart can pump out). Nothing to panic about. Just some exercise and healthy lifestyle would do it.
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Now AI is giving a diagnosis and medical recommendations.
Is this legal?
 
Akhenaten said:
There, there, Goddess.


:hug5
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Thanks Ak! It's a Christian Sidehug! :)

Maybe that should be the next VFF test... identifying which side a ChristianSideHugs would actually be on. Left or right?

Oh, yeah, and did I say that the subjects would be standing in the middle of the stage? Anita could spend at least half an hour staring at each couple. Questions such as "What side are you standing on?" would also be permitted. If Anita correctly ID'd her opinion that her answer would be right or wrong before it was given, that would count too, of course. Any answer with a .0000000000000000000000001 greater probability than chance would indicate amazing psychic abilities. And at the end of the test, the ChristianSideHug Rappers would perform. :)

After it's all over, Anita would probably show up on this thread to explain why she failed this really, really, really hard ChristianSideHug test, but she's definitely going to pass the next one...
 
Moochie said:
Anita is a bright woman who has hit on an idea to make herself more "credible" to the unhealed masses. Give her a little more time so that her message can percolate to the target audience, some of whom have apparently already expressed an interest.

Anita makes protestations of "Nevah!" when it is suggested that she is poised to become the next "wonderful discovery" on Oprah, especially after her heartwarming, fascinating book is released, but eventually she'll be forced to relent when the groundswell of voices of the lame and crippled reaches a crescendo so high that Anita will be "forced" to capitulate and share her amazing ability with the rest of us mere mortals.

I hope that I am wrong, but that particular vision comes from more than a feeling.


M.
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Well you've hit upon what I think most of the people here are worried about. And rightly so. It's a skeptics forum, you're supposed to be skeptical. If it's just dropped and 5 years down the road we see this happen it will be the facepalm heard round the world.
 
Maia said:
Maybe that should be the next VFF test... identifying which side a ChristianSideHugs would actually be on. Left or right?
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I would definitely say left. More righties than lefties you know; they will approach from their dominant side (their right, your left). Unless of course the person in your avatar is actually you, in which case they would go for the straight-on hug and go with the carnal thoughts.

NB: I personally would go with the firm handshake, as Mrs. JHunter1163 frowns on carnal thoughts.
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
The objective of my investigation is to learn more about my experience, and as such I have not completed that work and will proceed to having another test. It is a learning process. I still don't know what visual information I use to conclude on my answers, and so in a next test there will be much less visual information available.
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Why can't you just accept the statistical probability and move on? You can't spend your life attributing signifigance to the low probability events in your life. It's the definition of "woo". By continuing your "investigation" you leave the doors open to other charlatans who would decieve people.
 
tsig said:
I don't understand how three attempts in one day tires you out when you say this is a spontaneous ability that you have all the time.
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I was double checking many times over.

Jonquill said:
Re: Did you sense any other health problems

I seem to recall that what VFF actually said was no because she was too busy looking for kidneys.
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I don't recall sensing any other health problems. If I would have sensed any, I would not have said them out loud at the demonstration either. It would be immoral to do so. You know, like someone who doesn't intend to become a practicing psychic? Also I was busy with the kidneys thank you.

laca said:
Prove it or shut up.
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Why don't you prove me a liar or false memory or shut up?

laca said:
Riiiight, just like you said that if you failed the test, your claim would be falsified. You had your chance to prove you're honest, and you blew it. From now on, Liar is your middle name.
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I wasn't expecting to do as good as I did.

laca said:
No, you don't. You had 6 people, not thousands. Pick one at random. "Feel" that you're wrong. Move on to the next one, until you "feel" you're right. Choose that as your final answer. 100% success rate. Guaranteed. Unless of course, you don't actually know whether you're right or wrong beforehand.
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Read carefully next time. What I said was that in Dr. Carlson there was a one in thousands chance of guessing correctly that the left kidney was missing. One person, but thousands of various possible health information. It seems I do know when I'm right or wrong beforehand.

laca said:
Make that a psychological test, one that can pinpoint the exact mental illness you have. We've long passed the point where it wasn't sure you had one.
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Synesthesia is not a mental illness. Nor is it a mental illness to know when you know that a kidney is missing.

3bodyproblem said:
Why can't you just accept the statistical probability and move on? You can't spend your life attributing signifigance to the low probability events in your life. It's the definition of "woo". By continuing your "investigation" you leave the doors open to other charlatans who would decieve people.
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What deception? I find it interesting that I detected Dr. Carlson missing a left kidney, and that I know my accuracy beforehand. If it were a chemistry experiment, it would be deserving of repeated trials. Certainly this is a somewhat more elaborate test set-up to arrange, but other than that there is no harm in repeated trials.
 
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