The TruthSeeker1234 $1000.00 Challenge

[Pardalis]

Truthseeker, why don't you roll your thousand dollars real tight, and shove it?

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

Yes, I need to flesh this offer out a little more. My (attempted) deal is with JREF, I suppose. I am getting something for my money. I am getting the right to republish the document that is created in the debate, in perpetuity. I will use the name "JREF" in publicizing it. I've had the idea of increasing the reward every day until somebody can't resist and jumps at the offer. That way, as every day went by and the reward went up and up, the excitement would grow to a frenzied pitch

Can somebody link me to Randi's contract? I'll just use that as a starting point for my contract, and I'll modify it as needed.

How about it OCT's? By what dollar figure shall I raise my offer every day?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Yes, I need to flesh this offer out a little more. My (attempted) deal is with JREF, I suppose. I am getting something for my money. I am getting the right to republish the document that is created in the debate, in perpetuity. I will use the name "JREF" in publicizing it. I've had the idea of increasing the reward every day until somebody can't resist and jumps at the offer. That way, as every day went by and the reward went up and up, the excitement would grow to a frenzied pitch

since we are not authorized to speak on behalf of the James Randi Educational Foundation we cannot take you up on your offer at this time

 

[LashL]

I know that consideration need not be monetary. The attention he would receive is not worth anywhere near $1000, therefore it is unenforcible.

No, KingMerv, it matters not if the attention he hopes to garner is worth the price he's offering from your perspective (or even from his, actually) for purposes of contractual enforceability. It still satisfies the consideration element of the contract.

 

[LashL]

Yes, I need to flesh this offer out a little more. My (attempted) deal is with JREF, I suppose. I am getting something for my money. I am getting the right to republish the document that is created in the debate, in perpetuity. I will use the name "JREF" in publicizing it. I've had the idea of increasing the reward every day until somebody can't resist and jumps at the offer. That way, as every day went by and the reward went up and up, the excitement would grow to a frenzied pitch

Can somebody link me to Randi's contract? I'll just use that as a starting point for my contract, and I'll modify it as needed.

How about it OCT's? By what dollar figure shall I raise my offer every day?

None of us who post on this forum speak on behalf of the James Randi Educational Forum, any more than you speak on behalf of the forums you post on under various and sundry names.

But by all means, keep upping the ante until you make it worthwhile and then we'll discuss the details.

 

[R.Mackey]

Yes, I need to flesh this offer out a little more. My (attempted) deal is with JREF, I suppose. I am getting something for my money. I am getting the right to republish the document that is created in the debate, in perpetuity. I will use the name "JREF" in publicizing it. I've had the idea of increasing the reward every day until somebody can't resist and jumps at the offer. That way, as every day went by and the reward went up and up, the excitement would grow to a frenzied pitch

Can somebody link me to Randi's contract? I'll just use that as a starting point for my contract, and I'll modify it as needed.

How about it OCT's? By what dollar figure shall I raise my offer every day?

Admitted liar TruthSeeker1234 has backed out once again.

Abby accepted his original terms. Not acknowledged by TruthSeeker1234, surprising no one.

Now the charlatan is backing out, claiming to "up the ante," but requiring the involvement of the JREF, which is utter nonsense.

These 9-11 deniers are just unbelieveable. No matter what they do, no matter how far they go, there's always something stupider up their sleeves.

 

[David Wong]

Isn't it cool though that we live in a world where someone this crazy can make good money?

That has inspired me to improve my own life.

 

[R.Mackey]

I also might note that the latest idiotic demands to use "JREF" for his own personal gain are in absolute opposition to the demands for "public domain" he claimed here.

 

[LashL]

Admitted liar TruthSeeker1234 has backed out once again.

Abby accepted his original terms. Not acknowledged by TruthSeeker1234, surprising no one.

Now the charlatan is backing out, claiming to "up the ante," but requiring the involvement of the JREF, which is utter nonsense.

These 9-11 deniers are just unbelieveable. No matter what they do, no matter how far they go, there's always something stupider up their sleeves.

No surprise at all that "Truthseeker1234" ignored the posts in which his challenge was accepted.

He has shown repeatedly here that he is wholly incapable of debate, wholly incapable of understanding the evidence that is presented to him, wholly uneducated and unqualified to opine on 99.9% of the topics that he pretends to have a grasp on, wholly incapable of understanding or commenting on the links he himself posts here, and wholly incapable and incompetent to respond meaningfully to any of the rebuttals to his nonsensical posts and links.

He is a joke, to be sure, but only he and his fellow tinhatters think he's funny. Clear minded and right thinking people find him to be a sad, pathetic, and decidedly unfunny joke.

 

[Loss Leader]

I also might note that the latest idiotic demands to use "JREF" for his own personal gain are in absolute opposition to the demands for "public domain" he claimed here.

Well, I don't think he wants non-exclusive rights to the content. He just wants rights to republish the content. Having quickly looked, I can't find anywhere on this site where the JREF assets any exclusive ownership of the material posted here.

Using the JREF name to publicize the material may be a dilution of the JREF tradmark. Or, it may not be. One thing is certian, no one on this forum can contract to allow TS1234 to use the JREF name. We simply don't represent the organization.

Otherwise, there is nothing unlawful about what TS1234 is doing. I suggest that he places the $1,000.00 in escrow with a trusted individual (like me or another lawyer). He should also sign a contract with the other individual. That contract should include the full names and addresses of both parties and what actually constitutes performance in the "debate."

TS1234 should be aware that his words will be forever linked to his real name and that might be a level of "real" he's just not ready for.

 

[twinstead]

trooooferdude is under the misguided impression that WE have to defend the 'official story' against his onslaught of 'reason'.

In reality, it is he who has to prove his theory.

troof. Babe. If you can't make headway with your incontrovertible evidence on this little corner of the internet, what makes you think you could ever convince the cream of the engineering crop world-wide?

You have nothing. Unless you are a complete simpleton, you KNOW it.

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

Mackey says I've Backed out?? What planet are you on, RMackey? I want a debate thread so bad I'm willing to pay for it.

 

[Pardalis]

Mackey says I've Backed out?? What planet are you on, RMackey? I want a debate thread so bad I'm willing to pay for it.

Go call a hooker.

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

Loss Leader's suggestion about an escrow account is reasonable. If someone actually comes forward, I'm sure we can work the money out. C'mon Mackey, why are you afraid to debate me. Make your postive case. Start the thread.

 

[twinstead]

Mackey says I've Backed out?? What planet are you on, RMackey? I want a debate thread so bad I'm willing to pay for it.

Truthanator,

Any unbiased observer would conclude you've had your backside handed to you pretty bad on this board. You of course will deny it till the cows come home but we lurkers, who read EVERY word you post, know the truth.

What exactly has emboldened you such that you are willing to pay for a debate now?

 

[Abbyas]

Mackey says I've Backed out?? What planet are you on, RMackey? I want a debate thread so bad I'm willing to pay for it.

Hellooooo. Right here!

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Loss Leader's suggestion about an escrow account is reasonable. If someone actually comes forward, I'm sure we can work the money out. C'mon Mackey, why are you afraid to debate me. Make your postive case. Start the thread.

i have an idea, why dont you start a thread, and by you initiating the debate you nullify you 1000 dollar offer, i know someoen ehre will debate you then, and you wont even have to pay for it, and if they refuse to debate, you can claim victory on account of being unopposed

its win win

 

[LashL]

Loss Leader's suggestion about an escrow account is reasonable. If someone actually comes forward, I'm sure we can work the money out. C'mon Mackey, why are you afraid to debate me. Make your postive case. Start the thread.

Abby has accepted your challenge.

Loss Leader has offered to act as an escrow agent.

So, it seems that it is time for you to put the official terms in writing here (no backpedalling allowed) , send the necessary information and funds to LossLeader, and get on with it.

 

[R.Mackey]

Mackey says I've Backed out?? What planet are you on, RMackey? I want a debate thread so bad I'm willing to pay for it.

Sure you are.

I decline to "debate" you, on your ever shifting terms, because (1) I've already debated you to a standstill on five separate threads, (2) you're an admitted liar and hoaxer, and (3) you engage in personal attacks without any basis in fact.

Trust me, my decision has nothing to do with fear.

But indeed, you have backed out. Abby has accepted your challenge. Don't pretend you didn't see her reply. And she will clean your clock, too, if you ever get around to honoring your own commitments.

So stop making up new terms and welching on the deal. Get moving.

 

[Stellafane]

I offer $1000.00 to anyone who will debate me, one on one, on a closed thread, and start the thread with the positive case for the impact/fire hypothesis. Resolved: WTC1,2, and 7 came down due to impact damage and fire.

Debate according to Arkan's rules. $100 up front (i.e. upon your having opened the thread made the first post being made), $900.00 balance paid upon completion of the debate.

OK, it's not the $1,000,000.00 challenge, but at least it's physically possible for someone to have an online debate, unlike the JREF $1,000,000.00 challenge.

How about it, anyone want my money?

OK, now let me get this straight -- you'll give me $100, right now, if I just start a closed thread in which we debate? And when the debate is over, you'll give me the remaining $900? OK, but first I have a couple of questions: (1) How are you going to pay me? and (2) What defines the end of the debate, when one of us admits defeat?

Pardon me for not entirely trusting you on this yet, but as you're a self-admitted hoaxer, I'd like to be sure this isn't just another one.