The Truth of Christianity vs. All Other Belief Systems

[Dancing David]

See here is when you turn your back on the source Kathy, I have had tehe xperience you have and theya re exactly the same. But mine are with Goddesses and you condemn me to hell.

Because you dishonor the source

Also I do not think it's fair of you to discount other peoples testimony of what Goddesses has done in their life. Just because you weren't there as an eyewitness does in no way mean these things didn't happen and aren't true. Aradia saves people everyday but you choose to disbelieve rather than believe. If Aradia stood in front of you like she did doubting Abby you would believe, but you weren't there to see so you deny her.

I know from my own experience how real he is, and I also know her word in truth but she is the one that gifted me to know this. I could only pray that for people like you who doubt her.

 

[kurious_kathy]

You get around to admitting you were wrong about the law in the uk yet, Kathy? I missed it if you did, sorry

Fiona I was inquiring if it was true or not that Christian jewelry and t-shirts were against the law in the UK and said I would not comply if it was and then everyone jumped all over me for it. What do I need to apologize for? I was merely stating if they had done that as a law I thought it was wrong and I wanted others to let me know if they knew whether it was true or not.

I really wish people would not twist so much of what I say on this board around to mean something I did not say. Just today I had 3 people do that to me and it's them twisting my words to say something other than what I said. Is this a tactic some are using to get me to go away or something because I really do not like having to go back and correct their word twisting?

Now back to the OP, have we made any progress on this topic? Has anyone been waiting for a question to be answered about the "Truth of Christianity verses all other belief systems?" CD has been way too busy but I will relay a question if someone has something they need answered pertaining to his thread topic. I guess I can play secretary a bit if he can't find time to get back on jref.

 

[kurious_kathy]

And because you presuppose to know the only truth, you can not and wil not be respectful to me and my beliefs.

I have prayed, I have afsted, I have meditated, I have bancished, purified, consercrated and initiated.

But because you on hung up on your form, you say I go to hell.

But you lnow what KK the rain fall on the just and unjust alike. In a drought children die as well as child molesters.

Why is that?

Do you respect that maybe I have had a transforming experience that is as improtant to me as your is to you. No, it does not seem that way.

And so your dishonor the source, you dishonor the creations of the source. You dishonot the whole of creation by saying that you have the one right answer.

You have no self respect, if you truly knew God then you would not say that fear leads to wisdom.

But I can lead you to the light, I can not make you see.

The truth is Kathy, that all paths are true paths.

What do you mean all paths are true? This is clearly not what scripture teaches so I have to state you need to rethink your stand on that as surely not all roads lead to God.

But I would also like to say if we are earnestly seeking after knowing God with all our hearts he sees that and may answer us to show us the one path that does indeed lead us home to heaven. I myself have traveled other roads but Jesus was the one who showed me the right way home . I am here to testify to the truth now, there is only one way home and if you seek him you will find it.

 

[Fiona]

I do not think people were twisting your words Kathy: they were trying to get you to see your eagerness to accept without question any and all claims which confirm your preconceptions. A moment's thought would have given you pause: the UK has an established religion. A few minutes googling would have told you that and much else: but you have a persecution complex which needs feeding and so you did not do any of that.

 

[H'ethetheth]

What do you mean all paths are true? This is clearly not what scripture teaches so I have to state you need to rethink your stand on that as surely not all roads lead to God.

Oh God. The circularity of this train of thought... It makes me dizzy.

Kathy, the point of this thread is to establish if and why the Bible would be more true than, say, the Qur'an. You can't use the Bible to back up arguments that the Bible is true. Arguments do not work that way.

 

[Ladewig]

Now back to the OP, have we made any progress on this topic? Has anyone been waiting for a question to be answered about the "Truth of Christianity verses all other belief systems?"

Thanks for the offer. A few pages back you said, "I do not know what I could ever say or do that could help you want to change your mind." Then I asked this question:

Have you considered spending your proselytizing time with folks that you understand? If you don't know how to speak to us then targeting people with whom you can communicate seems a much better strategy. Doesn't it?

I didn't mean it rhetorically, I am serious. You must be aware that you have already alienated many if not all posters. Why don't you find people who need God's message AND are more receptive to God's message?

 

[Ladewig]

Now back to the OP, have we made any progress on this topic? Has anyone been waiting for a question to be answered about the "Truth of Christianity verses all other belief systems?"

I am also interested in your response to Sun Countess's question a few pages back

Can you just give me an example of sin against god? How am I committing sins against an imaginary being anyway? In all serious, please just provide a couple of examples of things you think I might be doing, or things that you have done, that are so horrific that the only possible godly punishment is eternal torment, and the only possible redemption is seeking forgiveness in the person/god who died a horrible death in your place?

I'm not out there raping, killing, beating, or stealing. Neither are the vast majority of people populating this planet. What are some specific horrible sins that people are committing against god, and which - in your view - are the cause of all the pain and suffering in the world? Just a short list. Three or four items. Thanks.

 

[RoboTimbo]

Now back to the OP, have we made any progress on this topic?

Nope, there has been exactly zero evidence provided so far. Have you or CD given any thought as to what you will be providing as evidence in the future?

 

[joobz]

Now back to the OP, have we made any progress on this topic?

No. CD has failed to defend any of the arguments he attempted to make. All of them have been countered with rational logic and evidence to the contrary.

If you wish this thread to progress the onus is on you or he to provide evidence for "the truth of Christianity vs. all other belief systems".


As it stands, You and CD have only helped substantiate the idea that christianity is NO MORE TRUE than any other religion. Was this your goal?

 

[Roadtoad]

Fiona I was inquiring if it was true or not that Christian jewelry and t-shirts were against the law in the UK and said I would not comply if it was and then everyone jumped all over me for it. What do I need to apologize for? I was merely stating if they had done that as a law I thought it was wrong and I wanted others to let me know if they knew whether it was true or not.

I really wish people would not twist so much of what I say on this board around to mean something I did not say. Just today I had 3 people do that to me and it's them twisting my words to say something other than what I said. Is this a tactic some are using to get me to go away or something because I really do not like having to go back and correct their word twisting?

Now back to the OP, have we made any progress on this topic? Has anyone been waiting for a question to be answered about the "Truth of Christianity verses all other belief systems?" CD has been way too busy but I will relay a question if someone has something they need answered pertaining to his thread topic. I guess I can play secretary a bit if he can't find time to get back on jref.

Funny, I seem to recall far too many instances, Kathy, where you've twisted other peoples' words to the point of them looking like pretzels. Yet you cry and moan if your words are misunderstood, or if people don't interpret your words they way you want them interpreted, regardless of what you wrote. (A hint: go to your local Community College and take an English course or two.)

As to the OP: Sorry, you two have yet to produce any evidence of Christianity's factual base, assuming such even exists. In the meantime, Mr. Randi has provided evidence that the whole business is false. And had you bothered to read or follow the links posted on any of the threads you're subscribed to, you would have seen it.

 

[babbits]

But I would also like to say if we are earnestly seeking after knowing God with all our hearts he sees that and may answer us to show us the one path that does indeed lead us home to heaven.

Are you suggesting that your god answers prayers?

Why doesn't are there little sick and crippled Christian children around then? Havent' their parents prayed for them?

 

[babbits]

God brought me back from the dead and I did not know why... I tell people that I do not have much faith because I have plenty of evidence in my own life that God is real.

That's interesting. What caused your death? And did you hae any medical treatment for your cause of death, before you died?

 

[kurious_kathy]

Funny, I seem to recall far too many instances, Kathy, where you've twisted other peoples' words to the point of them looking like pretzels. Yet you cry and moan if your words are misunderstood, or if people don't interpret your words they way you want them interpreted, regardless of what you wrote. (A hint: go to your local Community College and take an English course or two.)

As to the OP: Sorry, you two have yet to produce any evidence of Christianity's factual base, assuming such even exists. In the meantime, Mr. Randi has provided evidence that the whole business is false. And had you bothered to read or follow the links posted on any of the threads you're subscribed to, you would have seen it.

Communication is the challenge here as many do misread or misunderstand what some are trying to state. I guess communication is a good thing to always try to impove on for all of us.

As for Mr. Randi's evidence, I am not convinced. When it comes to matters of the supernatural man, many of you do not have clear understanding of it. The supernatural cannot be disproved just because someone cannot see the supernatural realm. You can deny it all you want, but you cannot prove the supernatural doesn't exist.

 

[jsfisher]

You can deny it all you want, but you cannot prove the supernatural doesn't exist.

...nor can you prove it does exist. So what's your point?

 

[paximperium]

Communication is the challenge here as many do misread or misunderstand what some are trying to state. I guess communication is a good thing to always try to impove on for all of us.

Good communication involves 3 things you don't do.
1)Listening
2)Understanding
3)And not lying

As for Mr. Randi's evidence, I am not convinced.

I believe you are lying like you always do. You do not read anything that contradicts your belief.

When it comes to matters of the supernatural man, many of you do not have clear understanding of it. The supernatural cannot be disproved just because someone cannot see the supernatural realm. You can deny it all you want, but you cannot prove the supernatural doesn't exist.

Therefore it cannot be proven either. Thanks for allowing for the existence of ALL gods.

 

[kurious_kathy]

Are you suggesting that your god answers prayers?

Why doesn't are there little sick and crippled Christian children around then? Havent' their parents prayed for them?

God still answers prayers but lots of them are no's. Why we can't understand when God says no is still hard for us as none of us seem to like the answer no. Perhaps he has a bigger purpose for the suffering we go through than we like to accept?

We are strugglng this year with an unanswered prayer too or a no, but we are waiting on God just the same. I'm sure God has a job for my husband, but this year we have had nothing but big set backs because my hubby lost his job. Maybe this isn't life or death but I really do not want to lose my home and have to move. California is getting really tough though and I hear many are being forced to leave Calif. to find work. We may have to make some big changes soon but I am still praying God comes through with an open door for my hubby to get employment.

 

[kurious_kathy]

...nor can you prove it does exist. So what's your point?

The point is sometimes people cannot get all the evidence they want to base their belief system upon, thus everyone must rely on a certain degree of faith to base their opinions.

And this my friends is even more evidence for what the Bible speaks of being true, "God has given every person a measure of faith." This is food for thought!

 

[jsfisher]

The point is sometimes people cannot get all the evidence they want to base their belief system upon, thus everyone must rely on a certain degree of faith to base their opinions. Food for thought!

Not food for thought at all. You just admitted it is ok to believe in something without evidence simply because you want to believe.

So, what about the teapot orbiting the sun?

 

[joobz]

And this my friends is even more evidence for what the Bible speaks of being true, "God has given every person a measure of faith." This is food for thought!

By your standard, it is also more evidence for
scientology, Islam, Judism, Hinduism, ....

All you need to do is present evidence for the Truth of Christianity vs. all other belief systems.

I've noticed that you have so far failed so. CD attempted to do so, but ran away as soon as he realized he was in over his head.

 

[Elizabeth I]

Communication is the challenge here as many do misread or misunderstand what some are trying to state. I guess communication is a good thing to always try to impove on for all of us.

As for Mr. Randi's evidence, I am not convinced. When it comes to matters of the supernatural man, many of you do not have clear understanding of it. The supernatural cannot be disproved just because someone cannot see the supernatural realm. You can deny it all you want, but you cannot prove the supernatural doesn't exist.

ROFL. You can't prove any negative. Prove to me there are no pixies. Prove to me there are no flying horses.

So because you can't prove to me either of those things exist, should I believe in them?

And as a matter of fact, if you insist on God, you open the door for all supernatural manifestations to be real, or at least have the potential to be real.

God still answers prayers but lots of them are no's. Why we can't understand when God says no is still hard for us as none of us seem to like the answer no. Perhaps he has a bigger purpose for the suffering we go through than we like to accept?

We are strugglng this year with an unanswered prayer too or a no, but we are waiting on God just the same. I'm sure God has a job for my husband, but this year we have had nothing but big set backs because my hubby lost his job. Maybe this isn't life or death but I really do not want to lose my home and have to move. California is getting really tough though and I hear many are being forced to leave Calif. to find work. We may have to make some big changes soon but I am still praying God comes through with an open door for my hubby to get employment.

And again I ask, what lesson could God possibly think is so important that it justifies the suffering of children?

What is he trying to teach us with Darfur, for example?