The Truth Movement: Finally, Lost in Space

ApolloGnomon said:
We were sitting on our lawn chairs at a park waiting for the fireworks to start, and a couple people with "9/11 was an inside job" picket signs wandered by. My wife asked me "So, why? What was the supposed motive for it?"

I couldn't come up with one. Clayton? Help me explain your delusions to my wife.
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Clayton Moore said:
I'm certain your wife wouldn't understand.
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Had you attempted to provide a cogent explanation that she couldn't understand, this would be a failure on your part not hers. She's pretty darn smart.

As it is, you haven't even tried to provide a cogent explanation for motive, so I'm left to conclude you are unable to line enough thoughts up in one sentence to do so.

I'll let her know.
 
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ApolloGnomon said:
Had you attempted to provide a cogent explanation that she couldn't understand, this would be a failure on your part not hers. She's pretty darn smart.

As it is, you haven't even tried to provide a cogent explanation for motive, so I'm left to conclude you are unable to line enough thoughts up in one sentence to do so.

I'll let her know.
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She couldn't be too smart.
 
Clayton Moore said:
She couldn't be too smart.
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As if you would know the intelligence level of a sane and rational person. You have no experience to base your claim on, just like your belief in the twoof movement. You have no evidence. You have no facts. You have only conjecture and credulity.
 
Oz1976 said:
As if you would know the intelligence level of a sane and rational person. You have no experience to base your claim on, just like your belief in the twoof movement. You have no evidence. You have no facts. You have only conjecture and credulity.
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I've read ApolloGnomon's posts.
 
Clayton Moore said:
Hopefully when 9/11 judgment day happens, and it will, stocks, scarlet letters, and worse will complete much of my bucket list.
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If there’s one thing I still don’t understand about truthers, it’s this kind of ridiculous “optimism”. They’ve achieved exactly nothing in a decade, what will be the impetus to magically change the 10-year-failure?
 
Sceptic-PK said:
If there’s one thing I still don’t understand about truthers, it’s this kind of ridiculous “optimism”. They’ve achieved exactly nothing in a decade, what will be the impetus to magically change the 10-year-failure?
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I have no idea. I have visions of them in fifty years in the future,sitting behind a keyboard in the old folks home,typing out the same garbage, sans hair,sans teeth,sans everything.
 
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Clayton Moore said:
Hopefully when 9/11 judgment day happens, and it will, stocks, scarlet letters, and worse will complete much of my bucket list.
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You probably just need to move on. You may have noticed that anyone with the power to influence a new investigation avoids being associated with people like you. No one would accept the damage to their reputations or credibility. You probably see this unfair and proof of a vast conspiracy against you. In point of fact these people are making a very rational, sane judgement.

You and your kind of turned a national tragedy into a meaningless hobby. You treat the deaths of three thousand people like a game. It's good that you should suffer social consequences.
 
Thanks, Clayton I've read yours too. :) From what I've read everything you believe is utterly wrong and based on confusion, prejudice, and misinformation.

By the way, what do my posts have to do with my wife's intelligence? Do you really think random sniping insults constitute some newly discovered form of valid argument?

I'd like to know if you or any other 9/11 theorist can provide a rational summary of WHY "they" (whoever "they" are, theories are inconsistent) would fake the attacks on 9/11. I think this falls under the bounds of the OP.

The years since 9/11/01 have been filled with hundreds if not thousands of suicide bombers sent by Islamic extremist leaders to kill innocent people, including crowded market places filled with women and children. This is observable reality, fully consistent with other observable reality. Flying planes into buildings is perfectly reasonable within the bounds of the mindset that can stuff a bomb inside a dog or drive an IED-rigged motorcycle into a crowd of women.

A government killing thousands of it's own citizens for no clear purpose is not reasonable within the bounds of observable reality.
 
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ApolloGnomon said:
Thanks, Clayton I've read yours too. :) From what I've read everything you believe is utterly wrong and based on confusion, prejudice, and misinformation.

By the way, what do my posts have to do with my wife's intelligence? Do you really think random sniping insults constitute some newly discovered form of valid argument?

I'd like to know if you or any other 9/11 theorist can provide a rational summary of WHY "they" (whoever "they" are, theories are inconsistent) would fake the attacks on 9/11. I think this falls under the bounds of the OP.

The years since 9/11/01 have been filled with hundreds if not thousands of suicide bombers sent by Islamic extremist leaders to kill innocent people, including crowded market places filled with women and children. This is observable reality, fully consistent with other observable reality. Flying planes into buildings is perfectly reasonable within the bounds of the mindset that can stuff a bomb inside a dog or drive an IED-rigged motorcycle into a crowd of women.

A government killing thousands of it's own citizens for no clear purpose is not reasonable within the bounds of observable reality.
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The common reason I've heard was that "They" (they never say who "they" are :) needed a cause de guerre similar to Pearl harbor or the sinking of The USS Maine. The motive being profit from making weapons and to keep the "sheeples" scared.
My response is that "they" could have chosen a million much simpler methods to do just that without vigorously mating wall street and the countries economy!
 
9/11 Judgement day??? Don't think this is new. Insightful? Nay...

Well, still nothing new and insightful from the TM? Disappointing. I had such high expectations. Given the talent of the TM.. and the highly esteemed experts there... and the strength of the mountains of evidence. High expectations I had.

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Judgement day? Mowahahahahahha. How deeply can one sink into ones delusions? How religious can the TM get? What do they think they are? Divine high-priests that are going to send the evil be-dunkers to hell? I sincerely hope this particular individual is a Poe.
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Clayton Moore said:
I've read ApolloGnomon's posts.
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Your point? We've all read yours. We've all asked you many a question that remain unanswered. We all KNOW that you're.....use that wicked sick imagination of yours...not going to violate the rules, but I'm sure you KNOW where I was going. That phrase, I guess it takes one to know one...comes to mind.
 
sheeplesnshills said:
The common reason I've heard was that "They" (they never say who "they" are :) needed a cause de guerre similar to Pearl harbor or the sinking of The USS Maine. The motive being profit from making weapons and to keep the "sheeples" scared.
My response is that "they" could have chosen a million much simpler methods to do just that without vigorously mating wall street and the countries economy!
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Problem with the Truthers' theories is that anyone with enough power to pull it off doesn't need to in the first place.

Actually, this is a problem with most conspiracy theories.
 
000063 said:
Problem with the Truthers' theories is that anyone with enough power to pull it off doesn't need to in the first place.

Actually, this is a problem with most conspiracy theories.
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You nailed it! Wars of aggression, bank bailouts, slimy partisan politics over budgets, all carried out in the open for all to see (or ignore).

The majority of 'evil' acts done right in prime time, complete with commercial breaks. Pass the popcorn!
 
dafydd said:
I have no idea. I have visions of them in fifty years in the future,sitting behind a keyboard in the old folks home,typing out the same garbage, sans hair,sans teeth,sans everything.
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You get no prize for that prediction. Its been 40 years since Apollo and the same tired and well debunked shinola still keeps being put forth about its fakery.
 
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