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Dr. Oz: Anothr exmaple of why Trump obssesion with putting TV personalties in high level positions is proving a disaster.
The Truth about RFK Jr
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a_unique_person
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Nit pick. It's not really an obsession. That would mean he felt compelled to do it. He does it because he doesn't think much deeper than what he saw on his favourite TV channel.
There's an awful lot of overlap with the Conspiracies and Conspiracy Theories subforum, isn't there?
"Many, many, many, many, many more," that's very many isn't it?!
Neil Stone on X, Aug 15, 2025
Health Secretary of the United States claiming that the polio vaccine killed more people than it saved.
You'll be pleased to know that this is not true
With the 50-sec video.
"Many, many, many, many, many more," that's very many isn't it?!
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If this dumb mother ◊◊◊◊◊◊ gets his way he's gonna kill many, many. many, many, many. many, many, many, many, many, many, etc.
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Chris_Halkides
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Head of NIH Dr. Jay Bhattacharya "has called on the agency’s scientific leadership to immediately review all of their current and planned research activities to identify those that don’t align with agency priorities, according to an Aug. 15 internal memo obtained by Fierce Biotech...“Under normal circumstances, it would take a layered approach and months of effort to do this well,” Jeremy Berg, Ph.D., former director of the NIH’s National Institute of General Medical Sciences, told Fierce. “My impression is that he expects this to take days. This speaks to this being a political rather than a serious scientific process”...Berg agrees that misalignment with the “often poorly defined” priorities may serve as justification for canceling otherwise sound projects."
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The Guardian reported, "“It is astounding that Bhattacharya has the audacity to claim to know that Biden-era policies are responsible for distrust of mRNA vaccines, when he and his associates have done so much to diminish the appreciation of these important medical accomplishments,” Jeremy Berg, the former director of the National Institute of General Medical Sciences at the NIH, said in a statement to the Guardian." Professor Joshua Weitz said, “The op-ed sows doubt regarding the number of lives saved due to Covid vaccines, favoring a recent study that claims about 2.5 million lives were saved globally rather than 10 million or more as estimated elsewhere. Even the low estimate of about 2.5 million lives saved speaks to the ability of these vaccines to make a massive public health difference at scale.”
The last couple of minutes probably not safe for work:
It's mainly about what MAHA has been doing about food and not so much about vaccines.
If you can't access it in your area, try this one:
The MAHA part of the episode begins at 9:05-->
It's mainly about what MAHA has been doing about food and not so much about vaccines.
If you can't access it in your area, try this one:
This version is also safer for work since it doesn't end with a song based on John Kennedy talking about how much he'd love to have your **** in his mouth.
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I started watching and nearly threw my breakfast at RFK Jr as soon as I saw his mug trying sell me a MAHA hat. Then, I saw stupid Linda McMahon, followed up by that idiot Food Babe, Vani Hari, and for the sake of my TV (it has a brand new panel under warranty!) I had to stop watching. These dangerous mis/disinformationists infuriate me, and now that they're mainstreamed, I fear for the future, lest the U.S. turn into a scientific, intellectual backwater.
We can all eat healthier for sure, but based on good nutrition information, not the babblings of the aforementioned morons. Stupid is winning.
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In March of 2025 John Tierney* of the conservative or free market City Journal wrote, "Democrats at the hearing unanimously abandoned the fight against his supposedly “fringe” ideas...Last week, however, Markey and his Democratic colleagues studiously avoided discussing the mandates or any issue related to Covid...They praised Bhattacharya for coauthoring the Great Barrington Declaration opposing lockdowns and school closures, and they thanked him for his court testimony opposing mask mandates for students...It would have been refreshing at the hearing if Democrats on the committee had apologized for the attacks on Bhattacharya—or at least acknowledged that they should have heeded him instead of Fauci...Bhattacharya’s confirmation can’t come soon enough." My purpose in quoting this now is to ponder why the Democrats did not bring up the Great Barrington Declaration or other issues, such as Dr. Bhattacharya's statements about Covid-19.
*Wikipedia wrote about John Tierney: "In 2016, Tierney accused President Barack Obama of "politicized science to advance his agenda", and appointees in the Obama administration of "junk science—or no science—to justify misbegotten crusades against dietary salt, trans fats, and electronic cigarettes." I look forward to reading what Mr. Tierney has to say about the science regarding synthetic food dyes or mRNA vaccines, two of Secretary Kennedy's targets.
*Wikipedia wrote about John Tierney: "In 2016, Tierney accused President Barack Obama of "politicized science to advance his agenda", and appointees in the Obama administration of "junk science—or no science—to justify misbegotten crusades against dietary salt, trans fats, and electronic cigarettes." I look forward to reading what Mr. Tierney has to say about the science regarding synthetic food dyes or mRNA vaccines, two of Secretary Kennedy's targets.
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After differentiating between antigenic drift (which all viruses can do) and antigenic shift (which only a segmented virus such as the flu virus can do), Dr. David Gorski wrote, "Also, you know what are good ways to mitigate the possibility of antigenic shift? One is global surveillance, in order to spot such shifts fast and react to them, but the Trump administration has pulled the US out of the World Health Organization beginning in January 2026, which means that we will not sharing surveillance data with the WHO any more."
Dr. Gorski went on to note that, "Something like this [the 1955 Cutter incident] can’t happen with single-antigen vaccines or, for that matter, mRNA vaccines...Add to that the observation over the decades that whole virus vaccines contain lots of proteins that include non-protective or even potentially harmful antigens, and, as was the case with desiccated thyroid extract and herbal medicines, there was an impetus to isolate the minimum active ingredient—or, in the case of a vaccine, antigen—that causes the desired effect."
Dr. Gorski went on to note that, "Something like this [the 1955 Cutter incident] can’t happen with single-antigen vaccines or, for that matter, mRNA vaccines...Add to that the observation over the decades that whole virus vaccines contain lots of proteins that include non-protective or even potentially harmful antigens, and, as was the case with desiccated thyroid extract and herbal medicines, there was an impetus to isolate the minimum active ingredient—or, in the case of a vaccine, antigen—that causes the desired effect."
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Dr. Jessica Steier wrote an Op-Ed for the New York Times, in which she discussed David Geier's and Mark Geier's papers attempting to show a link between autism and vaccines. She wrote, "To show how Mr. Geier makes his research look credible, we’re highlighting tactics he has employed on multiple occasions, using a 2017 paper on thimerosal as our example. We picked it because it uses one of the databases that experts suspect will be relied on in the government report, the Vaccine Safety Datalink, to which Mr. Geier has been previously barred from having access."
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Stupid now rules the U.S. medical establishment, so stupid has already won!
And a small group of Danish contrarian doctors have helped stupid win: Christine Stabell Benn, Tracy Beth Høeg and Peter Aaby. And in addition to Jay Bhattacharya mentioned by Chris_Halkides in post 2,191 as one of the authors of the Grat Barrington Declaration (GBD), another one of the GBD authors, Swedish Martin Kulldorff, is also working for MAHA.
They are all mentioned in this recent article:
THE OBVIOUS REASON THE U.S. SHOULD NOT VACCINATE LIKE DENMARK (The Atlantic, July 24, 2025)
Actually, not even Denmark should vaccinate like Denmark, i.e. no chickenpox, influenza and C19 vaccinations for children, since the Danish vaccination programme is probably to a large extent based on faulty science from the people mentioned above.
From The Atlantic:
The Trump administration and RFK Jr. have been cherry-picking the pseudo scientists they needed to destroy the U.S. health-care system, the part of it that actually worked, i.e. the science of medicine. They have cherry-picked the people who could be trusted to deliver the desired alternative medical 'facts'.
A showdown is currently taking place in medical science in Denmark, but showdowns in science often take awfully long to get settled:
Har kendt vaccine ‘skjulte’ effekter? Nye studier deler danske forskere (Videnskab.dk, Mar 7, 2025)
Does well-known vaccine have 'hidden' effects? Danish researchers disagree about new studies
Medie: Vaccineforsker Christine Stabell Benns forskningscenter blev lukket efter kritik (Videnskab.dk, Mar 7, 2025)
Media: Vaccine researcher Christine Stabell Benn's research center was closed down after criticism
Lukket grundforskning (Weekendavisen, April 3, 2025)
Closed basic research
Forsøg uden konsekvenser (Weekendavisen, May 23, 2025)
Trials without consequences
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Norman Alexander
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THESE
QUACKS
ARE
TRYING
TO
KILL
YOU,
USA!
They should start at the top, frankly.
QUACKS
ARE
TRYING
TO
KILL
YOU,
USA!
They should start at the top, frankly.
Carrot Flower King
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There was a paper by a Geier acolyte a few years back (cropped up in a discussion on the old Bad Science forum, so I can't remember the details), in which said acolyte used a "tool" for assessing autistic symptoms which I, as a former CAMHS worker who did that for a living, did not recognise.
It took me quite a while to track it down: it was rarely used, as it was discredited for producing false positives (i.e. showing autistic symptoms where it was more likely that none were present) and for failing to distinguish between autistic features and features of learning difficulties (i.e. mistaking non-autistic LD features for autistic symptoms). Upshot was a wild over-estimating of autistic features present in the "study" population and thus a huuuuuuge over-estimate of the effects of the "causative" agent.
This is a feature, not a bug, of the Geiers and their acolytes. Just thoroughly dishonest, the lot of them.
https://t.co/pdtY1FukYmDefying RFK Jr., pediatric group urges covid shots for young kids (WaPo, Aug 19, 2025)
The American Academy of Pediatrics on Tuesday urged parents to get their youngest children vaccinated for covid, part of a broader effort by medical organizations to bypass Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his criticism of broadly administering coronavirus vaccines.
The AAP is recommending that all children ages 6 months through 23 months receive a coronavirus vaccine to help protect against serious illness. Children in that age group are especially vulnerable to becoming hospitalized for covid, the AAP said in its vaccine guidance for parents and pediatricians ahead of the fall-winter respiratory season.
Norman Alexander
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Making the results fit the desired fable.
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On X Dr. Marty Makary wrote, "FDA is committed to pursuing the first-ever approval of desiccated thyroid extract, pending results of the ongoing clinical trials. In the mean time, we will ensure access for all Americans." Secretary Kennedy tweeted his approval. Dr. David Gorski quoted the American Thyroid Association: "Desiccated thyroid contains both T4 and T3, however the balance of T4 and T3 in animals is different from the human thyroid. The amounts of both T4 and T3 can vary in every batch of desiccated thyroid, making it harder to keep blood levels stable throughout the day."
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And they say time travel is impossible - here's the US proving them wrong by quickly moving back in time. RFKjr will start tolkning about the four humours any day now!