The Trump Presidency: Part 29

[alfaniner]

My biggest concern is Biden kicking the bucket before the 2024 election. Who would they get to fill that void? VP Harris is not a likely winner.

 

[Warp12]

Yeah, everyone let's all calm just calm down and not resort to hyperbolic fear-mongering.

This very important message brought by the person who said this about vaccine mandates:

Yeah, it only turned out that you lose your job and livelihood, if you don't comply. Nothing to worry about.

ISF Clown Troop, on deck again. LMAO.

 

[Warp12]

My biggest concern is Biden kicking the bucket before the 2024 election. Who would they get to fill that void? VP Harris is not a likely winner.

You mean that the token the Dems selected isn't a viable candidate? Shocker.

 

[JoeMorgue]

You mean that the token the Dems selected isn't a viable candidate? Shocker.

"Token." What not edgy enough to just use the N-word?

 

[Warp12]

"Token." What not edgy enough to just use the N-word?

If I had that word in mind, I would just use it. You either say it, or you don't. People who constantly refer to the "N-word"... they just make me laugh.

 

[johnny karate]

Yeah, it only turned out that you lose your job and livelihood, if you don't comply. Nothing to worry about.

You should tell this person about your concerns:

Also, to add, I don't have a problem if employers or institutions require a vaccine standard. That falls under "choice". I can choose not to get vaccinated, but I can't work or go to school at certain places.

They don't seem too worried about it.

Your inability to maintain a consistent position from one post to the next aside, what is being discussed is your fear-mongering hyperbole of which you now accuse other people.

You literally hypothesized that people would be strapped down and forced to receive vaccinations by armed government agents and imprisoned.

You wrote those words.

I don't blame you for backpedalling away from them now because it makes your current position about actual real-world concerns look that much more foolish and vacuous.

 

[JoeMorgue]

The Right is always really concerned that their right to hurt other people might be infringed on.

It's literally the only time they care about rights at all, but ya know...

Don't dare tell me I have to feed the homeless, but also don't dare tell me I can spread a disease, but don't dare tell me other people get to do things that don't hurt me in the least but I don't like.

I sense a pattern.

 

[stanfr]

My biggest concern is Biden kicking the bucket before the 2024 election. Who would they get to fill that void? VP Harris is not a likely winner.

There is a worse scenario, where Biden is still healthy physically but all the traits that have led the right to scream 'dementia' have gotten noticeably worse.

 

[Warp12]

I don't blame you for backpedalling away from them now because it makes your current position about actual real-world concerns look that much more foolish and vacuous.

You don't seem to understand the difference between a government mandate and the choice of a private employer or institution.

And, we have not yet reach the level of government mandate that I was initially speaking of. It is not yet illegal to be unvaccinated. Although you would never know that, based upon the grave-dancing that goes on around this place.

Nice try, though.

 

[bruto]

If I had that word in mind, I would just use it. You either say it, or you don't. People who constantly refer to the "N-word"... they just make me laugh.

Ok, but a token is a token of something, or the word is woefully misapplied. So, what do you claim she is a token of?

 

[Ladewig]

There is a worse scenario, where Biden is still healthy physically but all the traits that have led the right to scream 'dementia' have gotten noticeably worse.

Noticeably worse?!

You mean the right-wing hacks are going to record President Biden saying something and slow it down more than they did last time?

 

[johnny karate]

You don't seem to understand the difference between a government mandate and the choice of a private employer or institution.

You expressed concern that people would lose their jobs as a result of a vaccine mandate. There is no functional difference if that mandate comes from the government over the employer. They still lose their jobs if they refuse the vaccine.

Such basic contradictions are what happens when you try to pretend to not be an anti-vaxxer but still push their dumbass talking points.

And, we have not yet reach the level of government mandate that I was initially speaking of. It is not yet illegal to be unvaccinated.

That's because what you referred to is a right wing fever dream existing outside of reality.

Although you would never know that, based upon the grave-dancing that goes on around this place.

The only grave-dancing going on is from the soulless ghouls perpetuating a pandemic that's already killed 800,00 Americans with their selfishness and stupidity.

 

[The Atheist]

My biggest concern is Biden kicking the bucket before the 2024 election. Who would they get to fill that void? VP Harris is not a likely winner.

Concern?

If I were a Democrat it would be my biggest hope.

Then you could maybe find a decent candidate.

 

[Warp12]

You expressed concern that people would lose their jobs as a result of a vaccine mandate. There is no functional difference if that mandate comes from the government over the employer. They still lose their jobs if they refuse the vaccine.

Sure. And if a cake shop decides not to serve wedding cakes to gays, it has the same impact as if the government mandates "no gay wedding cakes" to all shops across the nation.

Mind-blowingly difficult to grasp, for some. I totally get it. Brilliant position.

Now, what about Trump?

 

[johnny karate]

Sure. And if a cake shop decides not to serve wedding cakes to gays, it has the same impact as if the government mandates "no gay wedding cakes" to all shops across the nation.

Mind-blowingly difficult to grasp, for some. I totally get it. Brilliant position.

Anyone who actually supported equal right for gays would be against both, not just one or the other.

Either you care about people losing their jobs because of vaccine mandates or you don't.

You can't walk the line between being an anti-vaxxer and pretending you're not without people noticing.

Now, what about Trump?

He spreads a lot of COVID misinformation (not to mention COVID itself) while pretending to be pro-vaccination when it suits him.

Reminds me of someone else...

 

[Warp12]

Anyone who actually supported equal right for gays would be against both, not just one or the other.

Either you care about people losing their jobs because of vaccine mandates or you don't.

You can't walk the line between being an anti-vaxxer and pretending you're not without people noticing.



He spreads a lot of COVID misinformation (not to mention COVID itself) while pretending to be pro-vaccination when it suits him.

Reminds me of someone else...

How is it that people don't understand that one can be pro-vaccine and also respect personal choice? It's probably the same people that are obviously confused about the potential significance of a government decision to mandate no gay wedding cakes, vs the choice of an individual business.

Around here we call those types, "critical thinkers". And there are many of them.

 

[The Atheist]

How is it that people don't understand that one can be pro-vaccine and also respect personal choice?

Because it's not true.

This simple graphic may aid you: https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/109548012/emma-cook-cartoons

 

[johnny karate]

How is it that people don't understand that one can be pro-vaccine and also respect personal choice? It's probably the same people that are obviously confused about the potential significance of a government decision to mandate no gay wedding cakes, vs the choice of an individual business.

Around here we call those types, "critical thinkers". And there are many of them.

We're all entitled to claim whatever we want. No one is obligated to believe us.

And if someone is mocking concern regarding a second Trump coup attempt from the stance of being a fair-minded centrist but also spreads alarmist nonsense about forced vaccinations, not only is it a safe bet that they're not actually a fair-minded centrist, but they're probably not as pro-vaccination as they pretend to be either.

 

[Warp12]

We're all entitled to claim whatever we want. No one is obligated to believe us.

And if someone is mocking concern regarding a second Trump coup attempt from the stance of being a fair-minded centrist but also spreads alarmist nonsense about forced vaccinations, not only is it a safe bet that they're not actually a fair-minded centrist, but they're probably not as pro-vaccination as they pretend to be either.

Good, we're sort of back to talking about Trump. So, you think the article in question is not a hyperbolic fear-mongering opinion piece?

You consider it a balanced, objective look at matters?

 

[johnny karate]

Good, we're sort of back to talking about Trump. So, you think the article in question is not a hyperbolic fear-mongering opinion piece?

You consider it a balanced, objective look at matters?

The language is certainly colorful, but I can't find fault with any of the concerns being expressed.

It's definitely more balanced and objective than someone hypothesizing about forced vaccinations at the hands of armed government agents.