'The Third Intifada has already begun'

[McHrozni]

Think about it: If Israel went all HAM on the Pals like the Israeli Hawks keep suggesting, do you think that would be good for Israel? Do you think that would project an Image of Israel that would encourage monetary and political support from people around the world? I don't think it would.

The real question is would it damage their image? Right now the answer is yes, but not everywhere and not by that much. If you and your lot succeede however, that may be the only option left.

Nevertheless, I agree with you and I think Israel could end their Palestinian Problem quickly and Forever by using Military Force. But then they would have created a whole set of other problems for themselves that are even worse.

Guess what the Palestinian plan is once they "win". They never will, their leadership looses if the conflict ends for whatever reason. But their plan is basically a genocide over the Jews - death or exile.

Can you tell me why do you support a genocide over Jews in 100% of their national territory, but are set against a genocide over Arabs in 2% (or so) of their national territory? Neither is acceptable, but I can't say the former is significantly worse than the latter. If anything it's the other way around.

McHrozni

 

[fuelair]

Thanks for the diagnosis. As with most of these instant, snap judgments, its well wide of the mark but I'm not about to digress into the reasons why since that would be off topic and we all know what happens to me especially when I stray from the narrow bounds of a thread, especially in ways that upset the numerous right wing, knuckle-draggers of the forum.

Just a friendly reminder, I am a very much left wing knuckle dragger who, assuming you are a lawyer, would have thunk you would be more for following the appropriate laws - especially those long agreed on by most of the functional world. I am pretty sure the RoW falls into that category and being a fan of getting wars over quickly with the good guys winning while indeed following the rules is a GOOD THING. Israel has sucked it up too many times - I am ready for some others to suck or stop.

 

[trustbutverify]

Yeah...according to the War Hawks we kept wiping out the Viet Cong over and over. But somehow, the Viet Cong were magical Zombies who could always return and start major offensives: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/vc-launch-new-offensive

I don't drink that War-Hawk Kool-Aide.

I'm not sure which kool-aide you do or don't drink, but your military calculations seem to be based on politically motivated fluff you've read from ridiculous, self appointed internet "experts", and several historically incorrect movies.

 

[WildCat]

Yeah...according to the War Hawks we kept wiping out the Viet Cong over and over. But somehow, the Viet Cong were magical Zombies who could always return and start major offensives: http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/vc-launch-new-offensive

I don't drink that War-Hawk Kool-Aide.

Gee, who to believe, former ranking VC members or you? Man, that's a toughie!

 

[McHrozni]

Gee, who to believe, former ranking VC members or you? Man, that's a toughie!

Former ranking VC members who are saying VC lost, mind you. It would be one thing if they were talking about a victory of their forces, but this is a ranking member of VC saying he lost.

Militaries typically don't lie when they say they lost.

McHrozni

 

[Jules Galen]

Jeez,

Just when ya' think Zombies are a paranoid delusion....along come Zombies. Here's a video of Israelis being attacked and then killing a guy I suspect is a Zombie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4oBuz4br2k


Really...somebody explain to me how that guy doesn't fit the definition of Zombie. One minute, he'a a mild-mannered IT Geek working for the local phone company, the next minute he's a crazed maniac being shot down, and then resurrecting and attacking again.

 

[Ziggurat]

Just when ya' think Zombies are a paranoid delusion....along come Zombies. Here's a video of Israelis being attacked and then killing a guy I suspect is a Zombie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4oBuz4br2k

Dude, Jules, this is the same video that I posted earlier, except without the Russia TV logo plastered on it. You even responded to that post. Now it appears that you never actually watched it. Which I guess makes sense, considering how disconnected from reality your prior response was.

But apparently if the video gets play on RT, then you notice it. Telling.

 

[Jules Galen]

Dude, Jules, this is the same video that I posted earlier, except without the Russia TV logo plastered on it. You even responded to that post. Now it appears that you never actually watched it. Which I guess makes sense, considering how disconnected from reality your prior response was.

But apparently if the video gets play on RT, then you notice it. Telling.

I guess I shouldn't take it personally. Apparently you can't even remember what videos you already posted yourself.

No...I remember. And I remember that I was so concerned because you blamed the victims for their sad, pathological plight. But now, I also realize you were engaged in Zombie Shaming.

Next, you probably are going to tell us that these Zombies were just "Asking for it", aren't you?

 

[fuelair]

No...I remember. And I remember that I was so concerned because you blamed the victims for their sad, pathological plight. But now, I also realize you were engaged in Zombie Shaming.

Next, you probably are going to tell us that these Zombies were just "Asking for it", aren't you?

Zombies have no shame...or life!!

 

[Ziggurat]

No...I remember. And I remember that I was so concerned because you blamed the victims for their sad, pathological plight. But now, I also realize you were engaged in Zombie Shaming.

Next, you probably are going to tell us that these Zombies were just "Asking for it", aren't you?

Well, when you deliberately run your car into civilians and then try to hack them to pieces with a knife, yeah, you pretty much are asking to be shot. But apparently it's the guy trying to run over and hack people to bits that I'm supposed to feel sorry for.

Your "zombie" tangent is rather atypical, but ultimately no more illogical than the rest of your position.

 

[trustbutverify]

No...I remember. And I remember that I was so concerned because you blamed the victims for their sad, pathological plight. But now, I also realize you were engaged in Zombie Shaming.

Next, you probably are going to tell us that these Zombies were just "Asking for it", aren't you?

The guy who plowed his car into defenseless bystanders, and then plunged a knife into more defenseless bystanders is the victim?

 

[Jules Galen]

Well, when you deliberately run your car into civilians and then try to hack them to pieces with a knife, yeah, you pretty much are asking to be shot. But apparently it's the guy trying to run over and hack people to bits that I'm supposed to feel sorry for.

I'm not asking you to feel sorry for the guy, I'm just asking you not to demonize him. Zombies are were people, too.

 

[Jules Galen]

The guy who plowed his car into defenseless bystanders, and then plunged a knife into more defenseless bystanders is the victim?

Yes....he is a victim as much as the bystanders. He did not choose to become a Zombie. No one does.

 

[Ziggurat]

I'm not asking you to feel sorry for the guy, I'm just asking you not to demonize him.

Why? He deliberately murdered complete strangers for no reason other than they were Jews. Why is that not deserving of demonization?

Zombies are were people, too.

Pretending that the stupid stuff you say is just a joke doesn't make it any less dumb.

 

[Ziggurat]

Yes....he is a victim as much as the bystanders.

No, he isn't.

He did not choose to become a Zombie. No one does.

He chose to become a murderer.

 

[Jules Galen]

Why? He deliberately murdered complete strangers for no reason other than they were Jews.

What does that mean?

 

[dudalb]

Former ranking VC members who are saying VC lost, mind you. It would be one thing if they were talking about a victory of their forces, but this is a ranking member of VC saying he lost.

Militaries typically don't lie when they say they lost.

McHrozni

What has come out is that there was a massive amount of mistrust during the Vietnam War between the VC and the NVA.

 

[fagin]

Why? He deliberately murdered complete strangers for no reason other than they were Jews. Why is that not deserving of demonization?

What does that mean?

Seriously, you want it in language three year old can understand?

He was a bad, bad man.

 

[Jules Galen]

He was a bad, bad man.

Well...until he became a Zombie, his Vocation and Training indicate that he was a very responsible man - a hardworking citizen. So, I'm not so sure that calling him a "Bad Man" is a fair, or accurate, description.

 

[theprestige]

Can somebody explain to me the 'zombie' thing?