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From the point of view of revising and reforming divine religions, "Qur'an" refers to "covenant books". (Old Testament and New Testament) This relationship is similar to the relationship between the New Testament and the ancient Jewish scriptures. Therefore, it might be better to say that the Qur'an is similar to the "Third and Modern Testament of Religions".
And it has "updated" the scriptures of all divine religions.
For those who do not accept the God of the Old Testament and the New Testament, the message of the Third and Modern Testament, i.e. the Quran, will not be much of a consolation for them. My opinion in this regard is that "the power of faith and love" is superior to "reason" if used correctly.
The power of faith, while describing the system of creation in the best way, keeps people away from doubt. and brings certainty. And therefore, his opinion is more correct and acceptable than other schools of thought.
"Existential philosophy" is a mixture of "faith-love and reason". None of the content of this philosophy is outside the universe. Originality exists. And the rest of the issues revolve around the "authenticity of existence".
The main basis of the logic of the Quran is the "Philosophy of Existential Authenticity". Although he has examined the rest of the philosophical schools in different verses. and has presented his own opinion.
In the Qur'an, he only talked about "the universe and existence". There is no mention of the supernatural in the Quran. Of course This does not necessarily mean a denial of the supernatural. Rather, he wants to be completely rational and up-to-date. And not unreasonable.
Those who regularly say where are the scientific articles of the Quran? and not produced. They are unaware of the fact that many of the things they believe do not have any scientific articles. And they have not been tested in the laboratory! Are the social-economical-historical-geographical-images of telescopes from space like James Webb's latest photo from 13 billion years ago in space!! Do these have scientific articles? And they have not been tested in the laboratory! No. So how do you accept these contents? And do you believe? If you read Einstein's biography, you will see that many of Einstein's ideas were fanciful. And some of them were discovered. And it was published as a scientific article. And some of them have not been discovered yet. Although the content of the modern science of the Qur'an cannot be compared to Einstein, it can be used as an example. Of which many Quranic contents have been discovered. And many of them are still not answered by science and technology. So Denying the Qur'an and the contents of modern science of the Qur'an requires the denial of modern science. And insisting on this approach is unwise and rejected.
Dear Pixel, he asked me to present a scientific article on the Qur'an. Or a claim from the Qur'an for which science still has no answer. I stated 3 claims of God in the Quran. Science still has no answer. At the beginning of the creation of the universe, where did the "single" come from? And who brought it? Inanimate matter became alive by what mechanism? And who made the inanimate matter alive? Who or what mechanism will recreate the universe after its destruction? God has answered all three claims in the Quran. And he said: "I have done it." Pixel's answer to these three claims is very reasonable. "Science still doesn't have an answer. But I'm waiting for science to answer." Despite my faith in God and the certainty that God's claims in the Qur'an are completely correct for these three issues. But I liked Pixel's answer. I will wait too. I suggest to all of you to follow this approach instead of denying the Qur'anic content and God's claim for no reason.I personally accept the protest and rebellion approach. And I believe that many scientific advances have been due to doubt and protest. If we don't doubt or protest about something, we have closed the way to human discoveries. And this approach is not wise and logical. But ... protest and rebellion against obvious, documented and valid issues are rejected. And insisting on this approach is due to ignorance and misunderstanding.
Wishing you health and success to all of you, dear friends, who had the patience for this topic and listened to all the conversations. And I have special thanks to those who doubted and objected to my words. And they saw my answers. and they heard.
Thank you all
 
There are modern scientific discoveries in the translation and text of the Quran.
No, there very clearly are not.

What the Qu'ran says is exactly what any sane person would expect it to say, knowing the time it was written in and the people who wrote it.

Your attempts to read something else into it are desperate and deranged.
 
But you claim that the Quran told them about it. If, as you claim, the knowledge of this science is in the Quran then all the people who read the Quran over those 14 centuries would have known about it.

Can you tell us about a future scientific discovery that is described in the Quran? Not something we already know, something new. An actual prediction.

You can’t, can you?

OK then. Show us the recipe for a room temperature superconductor. This will transform the world.

Off you go.

If the Quran contains clear descriptions of otherwise unknown science, you would be able to predict future discoveries of science, not just retrofit it to what is already known.

What future scientific discoveries does the Quran contain?

Or how about the TOE?


Hi Saeed, have you come up with any examples yet?

Alternatively, perhaps you can present examples of the Quran clearly predicting scientific discoveries before they were discovered by science, rather than retranslations to make them appear to fit afterwards.
 
Hello
Please do not be superstitious.
Be logical and up-to-date.
Gabriel is one of God's special forces. which is moving between parallel worlds. It is completely understandable. Do not use supernatural interpretations. Gabriel is a special force of God. And he was the messenger of God's revelation to the prophets. This. More than this is just superstition. Please do not continue.
All angels are only forces and energies that God has appointed them to perform a certain task. And none of them act against God's will. They are only subject to God's orders. "All angels are only forces and energies subject to God's command. And God controls and moves the universe through them. Each of them has its own special task."
For the angels, anything other than this is just superstition and imagination. Please don't be superstitious.

Quran 20.116 When We said to the angels, "Prostrate yourselves to Adam", they prostrated themselves, but not Iblis: he refused.
 
Dear Pixel; What is the new topic of this thread? Can you tell us what new content to discuss in this topic? Whatever you say. please

Thanks

I can't think of any topic I particularly want to discuss with you.


There are people who would like to discuss the Quran’s predictions of future scientific discoveries, assuming that Saeed can come up with any.
 
Hello
Your answer is what I told you. And it is absolutely correct.
Unless you can present the opposite of what I have said about the Quranic verses.
In no way can you bring. Your effort is completely futile. Don't tire yourself. Get some rest, dear philosopher. I love you so much.


Right, so you cannot answer any of the questions that I asked you.

Answers to those questions are absolutely fundamental for you to prove whether you are right or wrong, and you are 100% incapable of finding any honest answer in science to agree with a single word that you've ever said here.

Sorry, Mr Heydarian, but you just lost all argument here.
 
Hello
Please do not be superstitious.

Please don't be superstitious.


Please don't be religious. It is stupid and childish.

Islam is a very old religion. Out of date. Very silly ... please don't be silly religious Islam.

Thank you.
 
Hello
Please open your eyes wide. and see All my content is with an authentic document from the most authentic book in the world, the Qur'an.
Please open your eyes wide.

That's a complete lie. How you dare to change the subject with such a puerile pseudo-spirituality.

I've been reading the claptrap you have been posting here and it looks you're dangerous flirting with cognitive dissonance.

It's obvious to me that, first, there was never a document to be attached to this thread in the first place other than as an excuse to see if you could post here and elicit reactions. Well, duh!, even a therapeutic cat would. You just didn't know the place.

Secondly, that absolutely not a single person is taking you seriously in the Islamic World, especially regarding the translation thing, which I couldn't find to what language is. Obviously is not English, as you don't manage it and just a few post above you couldn't give a coherent reply to some English versions of the same fragment from a certain surah.

So, what is it? Farsi? Modern Arabic? Turkish? Kurdish? Bring here the original text and your translation containing the mesh galaxy BS you're trying to sell above, probably for lack of buyers in the Muslim World. We have forum members that are native speakers of most those languages so they'll be able to appraise if translations are for you a serious endeavor or you're just here pumping some pet notions of yours that nobody can swallow in your own land.
 
Dear Pixel; What is the new topic of this thread? Can you tell us what new content to discuss in this topic? Whatever you say. please

Thanks


Are you trying to derail the thread? This is not your personal chatroom. Do that again and I have you reported while I formally ask for this fake thread to be definitively closed.

You have scores of messages you haven't reply yet, so put your derriere on a comfortable surface and start doing that!
 
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Dear Pixel, he asked me to present a scientific article on the Qur'an. Or a claim from the Qur'an for which science still has no answer. I stated 3 claims of God in the Quran. Science still has no answer. At the beginning of the creation of the universe, where did the "single" come from? And who brought it? Inanimate matter became alive by what mechanism? And who made the inanimate matter alive? Who or what mechanism will recreate the universe after its destruction? God has answered all three claims in the Quran. And he said: "I have done it." Pixel's answer to these three claims is very reasonable. "Science still doesn't have an answer. But I'm waiting for science to answer." Despite my faith in God and the certainty that God's claims in the Qur'an are completely correct for these three issues. But I liked Pixel's answer. I will wait too. I suggest to all of you to follow this approach instead of denying the Qur'anic content and God's claim for no reason.

Please provide evidence of Allah.
 
Hello
Please do not be superstitious.
Be logical and up-to-date.
Gabriel is one of God's special forces. which is moving between parallel worlds. It is completely understandable. Do not use supernatural interpretations. Gabriel is a special force of God. And he was the messenger of God's revelation to the prophets. This. More than this is just superstition. Please do not continue.
All angels are only forces and energies that God has appointed them to perform a certain task. And none of them act against God's will. They are only subject to God's orders. "All angels are only forces and energies subject to God's command. And God controls and moves the universe through them. Each of them has its own special task."
For the angels, anything other than this is just superstition and imagination. Please don't be superstitious.
The only superstitions that I have are about Friday the 13th.

You now say that the Koran is wrong. You say that Gabriel is not an angel that spoke to Mohammad or Mary. In the Koran, Mohammad spoke to the angel Gabriel.

You are quoting something. Please give the source of your quote.

If you think angels are superstitions, then Allah is a superstition.
 
Hello
I'm sorry for you.

Why ... because I can read your book of claptrap in its original language and point out to you how much of a turpitude it is by quoting verses from it.

Your statement is a risible travesty... you have no response to the obvious absurdity of the Quran so you resort to ad hominems...

Why did your god see it fit or proper to do the job of blowing in the vulva of a woman in order to make her pregnant with a run of the mill human prophet???

You will never dare answer that... and this one verse proves that your Quran is a risible sordid turpitude.

I suggest you abandon your risible attempts at making anyone stop laughing at your false translations and try to explain this one verse to rational sane moral people of 2022.
 
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I can't think of any topic I particularly want to discuss with you.

Hello, dear Pixel
I would like to hear from you about your scientific expertise. I am very interested in the discussions of quantum physics and space. I have little scientific knowledge in these matters. And it is not my specialty. If you tell me, I will listen like a little student. And I will ask many questions. And I will learn knowledge from you. do you agree?
Thank you
 
Hi Saeed, have you come up with any examples yet?

Alternatively, perhaps you can present examples of the Quran clearly predicting scientific discoveries before they were discovered by science, rather than retranslations to make them appear to fit afterwards.

Hi dear friend
In message 3341, I mentioned three examples of future scientific discoveries in the Quran. We are still waiting for these three scientific discoveries. I told you the final answer to these three scientific discoveries in the future in the Quran. "Only God". Did you not pay attention to this message? Please read my message 3341 again more carefully.
Thanks
 
Hello, dear Pixel
I would like to hear from you about your scientific expertise. I am very interested in the discussions of quantum physics and space. I have little scientific knowledge in these matters. And it is not my specialty. If you tell me, I will listen like a little student. And I will ask many questions. And I will learn knowledge from you. do you agree?
Thank you

I am not an expert on quantum physics, and such a discussion would be off topic in this thread.

If you want to learn about quantum physics there are plenty of free online courses on the subject. The ones I'm familiar with are in English, I suggest you use google to find one in your native language. Make sure it's from a reputable scientific source. Your local library might also be a good place to start.

If you have specific questions as you learn there are plenty of posters here who could answer them, so by all means start a thread in the science subforum.
 
Quran 20.116 When We said to the angels, "Prostrate yourselves to Adam", they prostrated themselves, but not Iblis: he refused.

hello scorpion
You are not paying attention to my words, dear believer.
Angels are only spirits and energies that God ordered to be in the service of Adam. And they all ordered. Except Iblis, who also had to obey God's command and was in the service of man. But he rebelled. And he disobeyed God's order. Therefore, God expelled Iblis from the ranks of his forces. Iblis asked God for respite. God gave him respite. And Iblis betrayed again. And he said, I will mislead people as long as you have given me. And I will rebel against you like myself. Despite his intelligence and tact, Iblis did not ask just one question. And he was stupid. And he was ignorant that he did not ask God, why did you create man superior to me when you created me from fire? Dear Scorpion, did this question come to your mind? And what is the answer to this question?...
This verse has nothing to do with the quality and manner of creation of a person. It has only one important moral message. This is the important message in the next verse. (117) that: O man, be aware that this devil is your enemy and your wife forever. And he wants to lead you astray. And be always on fire like him! But the verses of Adam's creation are the verses of "evolution". God has mentioned "all the scientific stages of evolution" in more than 24 verses in the Quran. And I have told you in 16 messages in this thread. And I have repeated it in several messages.Dear Scorpion, you have studied a lot about Islam and the Qur'an. I request you to look at the verses of the Quran more carefully and read its translation. Of course, you will not find my translation and interpretation of similar verses of the Quran anywhere else.


I am waiting for your reply Scorpion. What was the question that Iblis should have asked God? And what is the answer?
Thanks
 
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