The supernatural

[steenkh]

The chakras are scientific. And they are quite understandable.

The chakras do not exist, and as such are quite unscientific.

They are easy to understand, however, because they are figments of imagination that give people a sense of control over something they do not understand.

 

[Pixel42]

The chakras are scientific.

No, they absolutely are not. There is no objective evidence whatsoever for chakras, and they explain nothing that cannot be adequately explained without them. They are pure superstition.

 

[abaddon]

The chakras are scientific.

You serious?

 

[junkshop]

Forgive me, but are chakras not a Hindu concept? Hinduism is not one of abrahamic religions, so surely that would make them haram?

 

[sackett]

Forgive me, but are chakras not a Hindu concept? Hinduism is not one of abrahamic religions, so surely that would make them haram?

Not so much Hindu as Indian. Non-Islamic, certainly, but Indian Muslims have borrowed various things from the older culture. Pakistan has caste, for example -- as you would expect, considering how useful it is to rulers. The Persians also have probably magpied bits of Indian ideas, mostly by way of their co-religionists the Moguls.

Old, large, complex countries are bound to influence the lesser peoples who come in contact with them.

 

[Tassman]

... Note that the basis of creation is "love" and human nature is based on "love and hate". And in the law of love, love, affection, forgiveness, forgiveness, kindness and mercy, ignoring mistakes and accepting the lover, overtake and prevail. But it should be noted that if there is no account and book, chaos will take over the world. Because the law is observed when its observance and non-observance have consequences. If there is no calculation, there is no reason to follow the law. The emphasis on resurrection, heaven and hell is due to the warning of the future and the book of human beings in the hereafter, which causes man to come out of negligence and take his steps calculated, because every action has its own consequences and these consequences affect man and some of it. And it is impossible to get rid of it. If there is no fear of hell, rebellion will sweep the world and become official lawlessness. In any case, the two important principles of theology and belief in the resurrection have always been emphasized in the Qur'an because of their effects on human life. And the complexities used in the creation of man make the philosophy of these emphases clearer. Obviously, no sane person would accept this. Therefore, there must be a resurrection and a reckoning. And the emphasis is more on hell because criminals will not be afraid unless there is a fear of punishment. At the same time, attention to heaven and its blessings is no less. The Qur'an says that there can be no God but no resurrection, that is, if there is no resurrection, creation is useless. This in itself is an argument. The Qur'an wanted to argue about this: (23/115) Translated by Yusuf Ali:
Did ye then think that We had created you in Joke and vain
, and that ye would not be brought back to Us (for account?) ...

The basis of creation is NOT "love" and human nature is NOT based on "love and hate". The basis of evolved life in the human animal is cooperation. Cooperation is an evolutionary trait which was naturally-selected as a survival mechanism otherwise our species would have perished long ago. Cooperation is an evolutionary trait among many social species including our simian cousins such as the chimpanzees and for the same reason. Namely, the survival of the species.

 

[heydarian saeed]

You missed the point again. I wonder if it is deliberate.

You have said that you can see the soul enter the foetus because the foetus moves, correct?

I don't agree. I think that the foetus begins moving because that's when Satan imbues it with a portion of his power. So which of us is right?

Hi. No one but God can insert the soul into the fetus. Neither I nor you nor anyone else. The soul is from God. I told the works of the soul that when it enters the fetus, the perception of the fetus begins. Before the soul enters the fetus, it is just a piece of meat. you understood?

 

[heydarian saeed]

Also those 4 arguments are absolutely not logical. They are ALL logical fallacies, specifically special pleading.

You are just talking. Without any argument !! Aren't you tired ?! I'm sorry for you.

 

[heydarian saeed]

No! It's is you who is "mixed up" and not able to answer ... what I said to you is that electricity was discoevered and explained, developed and used by science ... there are literaly tens of thousands of papers on that in the science reserach journals ... but there is nothing like that for any "Soul" ... there is NO evidence or claim of any souls in any genuine science papers ...

... that is a 100% total difference between electricity vs a soul ... and electricity was your own example ! ... why is there no claim or evidence of any soul ever by any genuine scientist publishing in any genuine research journal???...

... for electricty you have perhaps 10,000 such papers and not a single disagreement from any scientists ... but for a "soul" you have not even one such paper and no genuine scientist claiming any evidence for any "soul" ... the two things could not possibly be more different!

Hello, our knowledge for the soul is very little. And we do not understand. The soul is not made of matter. Only his works and evidence can be seen. This. If you hear that the soul is doing something other than entering the fetus, we understand. Anything else to tell the soul is a lie. The soul is the hand of God.

 

[heydarian saeed]

So you deny the verses I quoted about hellfire in the Quran, even though they are clear to read. How do you manage to ignore these along with other verses that state hellfire is for eternity?

Hello my dear. No. I do not deny the verses of hell in the Qur'an. Read my full explanation for the torment of hell in the next posts. And follow. Thank you

 

[heydarian saeed]

We can detect and measure and generate electric fields and currents in various ways, we can even sense it ourselves in some circumstances such as when a passing thundercloud makes our hair stand on end (I've experienced that and it's rather unnerving as you might imagine). We have a very thorough theory of what electricity is and how it works.

We have none of that for the soul. Just some people claiming such-and-such a thing is caused by souls in an inexplicable way, with no explanation for how an immaterial thing might interact with the material world.

They are not remotely comparable concepts.

Hi. I totally accept your scientific words. The witness of the soul is that; The fetus is full of spirit and acquires perception and awareness. I have a laboratory proposal. If you want to do. To see it.

 

[heydarian saeed]

Your God does not exist!

There is zero evidence of any such God ever existing.

All the things that were claimed thousands of years ago for God, have all now been thoroughly understood through science ... and the true explanations do not involve any God or any miracles at all.

You believe the God exists because want to believe it and you simply do not know any better in terms of honest objective education.

At one time, 1500 to 2000 years ago when the Bible and the Koran were first written, everyone believed in all sorts of Gods. But people at that time were educationally very ignorant and backward (it was not their fault ; for 99% of the people there simply was no proper means of education at that time).

But now, in the 21st century, most people around the world have access to proper schools and proper eduction from the age of about 5 to about 16 (and beyond that at colleges and universities). The result of that is that religious belief has steadily declined everywhere over the decades from about the time of Darwin, i.e. for the last 160 years or so. So that now, in the most developed countries with the highest levels of education, the number of atheists/non-believers has grown towards about half the population in various countries ...

... that shows that better education inevitably leads to a decline in religious belief. It shows particularly strongly amongst the most highly educated people in science, where it becomes obvious that science has explained the correct answers for almost everything that was once believed to be the work of invisible gods … the answers are all natural processes of physics, chemistry and biology ; there are no gods and no miracles in any of the scientific results.

Your God does not exist. And there are no miracles.

It makes perfect sense for you to talk about scientific advances and knowledge of the universe. And we accept that. And we have no doubt. But this is not different from Islam and the Qur'an. The Qur'an and Islam are also associated with science. Yes, in ancient times, people had little knowledge. And we lived in the Middle Ages. Therefore, we did not understand anything from the Qur'an. But for now, despite science, we are studying the Qur'an. And we see a lot of scientific points in it. This is not in conflict with modern science. And scientific advances are included.

 

[heydarian saeed]

Do tell us the surah and verse numbers where the Quran mentions this.

Sure. In this surah, he says 4 verses related to the comet and its collision with the earth. I have said before that it also refers to a neutron star. This is one of the similar verses. Which has different meanings and interpretations. It tells both the neutron star and the comet and its impact on Earth. pay attention.
86/1-3 - 86/11

 

[heydarian saeed]

Where in the Quran are the chakras mentioned?

The chakra is mentioned in six verses. 64/18 - 59/22 - 91 / 7-10 and also recited 13 surahs to strengthen the chakra. Surahs: 4-9-11-14-22-31-36-40-41-95-97-105-106. Also, our worships as Muslims: prayer, ablution, ghusl, reciting the call to prayer, reciting the Qur'an, all of these worships confirm the chakras of the body. And strengthens it. Especially prostration, which perfectly strengthens the body chakras. And depletes the body of negative energies and on the other hand increases the positive energies of the body.

 

[IanS]

I am worried for you. The impact of comets on Earth is a huge threat. And not too far. According to NASA studies, in 2022-2032-2028-2029-2036-2068 the comet Apophis may hit the Earth. And 2068 is more likely. And it will have very dangerous consequences. Millions are killed. Millions will be deaf. Millions will go crazy. And many cities will be destroyed. Please think well.
Building a special spacecraft is great for scientific research and exploration. And it is admirable. And we are all waiting for the success of such projects. But it is useless to escape from the earth because of space threats. There is no escape route. The god of the earth is one with the god of the star Alpha Centauri. The Qur'an mentions the impact of a comet on Earth. He also said the way of salvation.
And even the time was told by Muhammad by the command of God. Event Month - Tells the day of the event and the time of the event. No one knows the year of the event except God. But we can find astronomy with physics. Which I mentioned above. My suggestion is that; Apply rescue measures in the month, day and hour that are known.
And have emergency preparedness and crisis measures in this particular month, day and hour. However, NASA also seeks to stop the asteroid or divert it from Earth orbit. I just thoroughly studied the way to save man scientifically. I saw that it is exactly scientific. And science confirms that. In fact, it can only prevent serious side effects on human health.
Would you like me to tell you? If you do not make fun of the Quran and Islam. And you will not joke. Would you like me to say?
This is an important issue. That the world is worried about. What do you think?

Where did you get all the above? Did you get it from your "Ijaz" books, videos, websites? You need to stop believing nonsense like that from religious fundamentalists ...

... see the link below to the NASA website -

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/na...safe-from-asteroid-apophis-for-100-plus-years

First of all, Apophis is classed as an Asteroid, not a Comet. But as you can read in the link, Apophis is now calculated to have zero chance of any dangerously close approach to Earth for at least the next 100 years ... it is not a danger of any impact in either 2029, 2036 or 2068 ... here's a direct quote -

" Estimated to be about 1,100 feet (340 meters) across, Apophis quickly gained notoriety as an asteroid that could pose a serious threat to Earth when astronomers predicted that it would come uncomfortably close in 2029. Thanks to additional observations of the near-Earth object (NEO), the risk of an impact in 2029 was later ruled out, as was the potential impact risk posed by another close approach in 2036. Until this month, however, a small chance of impact in 2068 still remained.

When Apophis made a distant flyby of Earth around March 5, astronomers took the opportunity to use powerful radar observations to refine the estimate of its orbit around the Sun with extreme precision, enabling them to confidently rule out any impact risk in 2068 and long after. “A 2068 impact is not in the realm of possibility anymore, and our calculations don’t show any impact risk for at least the next 100 years,” said Davide Farnocchia of NASA’s Center for Near-Earth Object Studies (CNEOS), which is managed by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. “With the support of recent optical observations and additional radar observations, the uncertainty in Apophis’ orbit has collapsed from hundreds of kilometers to just a handful of kilometers when projected to 2029. This greatly improved knowledge of its position in 2029 provides more certainty of its future motion, so we can now remove Apophis from the risk list. ”


In other words – your claims of this as a Comet that can destroy millions of people and destroy cities by 2068, are just yet more untrue fantastic lies typical of the Ijaz literature “Miracles In The Koran” of barking mad Islam!

If you are going to keep posting here then can you find at least one truthful thing to say other than what you have so far as post-after-post filled with the crazy (and highly dangerous) untrue beliefs of religion.

 

[heydarian saeed]

It's not clear what point you wish to make. If scientists detect a future threat to the planet from a comet and begin work to consider what measures we can take against it, that's clearly serious but at least science will have given us a chance.

I can't see how it matters if some people insist their God knows whether we are in danger or not from a comet they think He created. If He will not tell us whether He has put us in danger of destruction, and nor will He rescue us if He did then He may as well not exist. It seems to make no difference to what happens. I assume He does not exist.

Your hypothesis is respectable. But this will definitely happen. There is no doubt about it. Not too far. It is better to think about safety and health measures.

 

[heydarian saeed]

Where did you get all the above? Did you get it from your "Ijaz" books, videos, websites? You need to stop believing nonsense like that from religious fundamentalists ...

... see the link below to the NASA website -

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/na...safe-from-asteroid-apophis-for-100-plus-years

First of all, Apophis is classed as an Asteroid, not a Comet. But as you can read in the link, Apophis is now calculated to have zero chance of any dangerously close approach to Earth for at least the next 100 years ... it is not a danger of any impact in either 2029, 2036 or 2068 ... here's a direct quote -

" Estimated to be about 1,100 feet (340 meters) across, Apophis quickly gained notoriety as an asteroid that could pose a serious threat to Earth when astronomers predicted that it would come uncomfortably close in 2029. Thanks to additional observations of the near-Earth object (NEO), the risk of an impact in 2029 was later ruled out, as was the potential impact risk posed by another close approach in 2036. Until this month, however, a small chance of impact in 2068 still remained.

When Apophis made a distant flyby of Earth around March 5, astronomers took the opportunity to use powerful radar observations to refine the estimate of its orbit around the Sun with extreme precision, enabling them to confidently rule out any impact risk in 2068 and long after. “A 2068 impact is not in the realm of possibility anymore, and our calculations don’t show any impact risk for at least the next 100 years,” said Davide Farnocchia of NASA’s Center for Near-Earth Object Studies (CNEOS), which is managed by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. “With the support of recent optical observations and additional radar observations, the uncertainty in Apophis’ orbit has collapsed from hundreds of kilometers to just a handful of kilometers when projected to 2029. This greatly improved knowledge of its position in 2029 provides more certainty of its future motion, so we can now remove Apophis from the risk list. ”


In other words – your claims of this as a Comet that can destroy millions of people and destroy cities by 2068, are just yet more untrue fantastic lies typical of the Ijaz literature “Miracles In The Koran” of barking mad Islam!

If you are going to keep posting here then can you find at least one truthful thing to say other than what you have so far as post-after-post filled with the crazy (and highly dangerous) untrue beliefs of religion.

I recently read all the posts you brought. And I'm glad we're together on this. The name of a comet or asteroid does not appear in the Qur'an. I mentioned the name that NASA mentioned on these sites. This name is not in the Quran. It is generally said that this collision will happen in the near future. I also asked all of you to think about this danger in the future. And think about safety and health measures. And its time, month and hour are also mentioned in Islam. Well you do not want me to say. let's move on. Good luck.

 

[IanS]

Hi. No one but God can insert the soul into the fetus. Neither I nor you nor anyone else. The soul is from God. I told the works of the soul that when it enters the fetus, the perception of the fetus begins. Before the soul enters the fetus, it is just a piece of meat. you understood?

When you keep saying things like "I told the works pf the soul ...", what you actually told us is that you believe the barking mad claims of Islamic "I'Jaz" literature!! ... that's all that you told us! ... you are not telling anyone here anything, except for telling us, showing us in fact, how completely decieved & deluded you are by the childish uneducated lies of religion.

It's just silly and utterly pointless for you to keep claiming things like "The soul is from God" ... all genuine scientifically known evidence shows that belief in any "souls" is just an ancient untrue uneducated superstition ... the world of religion is full of thousands of such untrue silly beliefs, ... there is zero evidence of any such things as a soul ... and there is zero evidence for any God ...

... in fact all known evidence, of which there is now a pile that would tower above Mount Everest, is completely against any such thing as a soul or any God. So it's not merely that there is zero evidence for your God (or your belief in any soul's), but actually the case that real & absolutely vast overwhelming evidence clearly shows that such beliefs were never more just childish ancient fiction.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Hi. No one but God can insert the soul into the fetus. Neither I nor you nor anyone else. The soul is from God. I told the works of the soul that when it enters the fetus, the perception of the fetus begins. Before the soul enters the fetus, it is just a piece of meat. you understood?

You're still not understanding.

You have made a CLAIM that the foetus starts moving when god puts a soul in. You've provided absolutely no evidence for this, you're just making the same claim over and over again. We are rejecting your claim. You are simply making it up. The soul isn't real. There are no such things as souls. They don't exist.

Provide EVIDENCE of a soul and we will listen. You obviously cannot do this.

You are just talking. Without any argument !! Aren't you tired ?! I'm sorry for you.

Liar. I and others have pointed out that your so-called "4 logical arguments" are not logical at all. They are in fact logical fallacies. Do you understand what special pleading is? Do you understand why this is fatal to your claim that your arguments are logical?

Stop handwaving away the correct objections to your nonsense and deal with said objections. The longer you do this the less it seems like this is a misunderstanding or issue with language and the more it seems like you're being dishonest.

 

[Tassman]

Hi. No one but God can insert the soul into the fetus. Neither I nor you nor anyone else. The soul is from God. I told the works of the soul that when it enters the fetus, the perception of the fetus begins. Before the soul enters the fetus, it is just a piece of meat. you understood?

There are no souls in the human fetus or the fetus of any other animal. Souls do not exist.