heydarian saeed
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Hello. Do not hurry. Evidence also shows that these times are not definite in the relevant sciences. Please let me know if there are any other problems. Read the rest of the article.
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Hello. Do not hurry. Evidence also shows that these times are not definite in the relevant sciences. Please let me know if there are any other problems. Read the rest of the article.
heydarian saeed
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Biologists are looking for two things
First: In the creation of the first single cell of life, which the Qur'an refers to as the sperm, what was the role of this enzyme?
Second, which is very important, how did life become living from inanimate matter, which is made up of organic molecules?
The Qur'an explains this complex mystery of life to us and goes beyond science. We do not understand this fact of the Qur'an because we are caught in the spider's web of ancient mindsets or ideas that sat on our beliefs a thousand years ago. And we misuse the verses of the Qur'an by changing the meanings of the words. And we interpret it in favor of our erroneous mindsets. The first sperm of life, which is an immature gene without a cell membrane and a "sperm" sperm, is defined as male water.
This meaning is wrong. The Qur'an does not say such a thing in any of them.
In verse 10 of Sura 41, God says: "Aqwat" which is the source of food for living beings. I planned on the solid crust of the earth in four periods. Consider the meaning of "strengths": food for living things that need it. First, the food of living organisms must be composed of organic matter such as proteins, sugars, fats, nucleotides, and so on. Of course, they are not connected yet. When they bind together, they form the chain molecules that make up our food.
Second: For which creatures is this food created? "The time when food sources formed on the Earth's primary solid crust was about four billion years ago." But not for living things today? For the generation after the primary sperm, that is, for the first anaerobic nuclei without nuclei, which is the primary mixed sperm. Which has the property of reproducibility. And its gene is not yet inside the nuclear membrane. These four periods of food sources have been described by biologists and named exactly these four periods.
In which of these four periods did sperm creation occur? Certainly in the fourth period. In which the command of God flows and the inanimate matter is transformed into a living thing by an instantaneous leap. This is the answer of biologists. How does inanimate matter come to life? By the command of God and with a momentary leap.
God's command to create the universe from nothingness, the Day of Judgment and the likeness of Jesus (pbuh) and the creation of man (evolved man) from inanimate matter or soil is used in the Qur'an. The creation of man, which leads to the evolution of man, took place in the very first single cell of life. (In eukaryotes) and the rest is growth and evolution.
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Biologists are looking for two things
First: In the creation of the first single cell of life, which the Qur'an refers to as the sperm, what was the role of this enzyme?
Second, which is very important, how did life become living from inanimate matter, which is made up of organic molecules?
The Qur'an explains this complex mystery of life to us and goes beyond science. We do not understand this fact of the Qur'an because we are caught in the spider's web of ancient mindsets or ideas that sat on our beliefs a thousand years ago. And we misuse the verses of the Qur'an by changing the meanings of the words. And we interpret it in favor of our erroneous mindsets. The first sperm of life, which is an immature gene without a cell membrane and a "sperm" sperm, is defined as male water.
This meaning is wrong. The Qur'an does not say such a thing in any of them.
In verse 10 of Sura 41, God says: "Aqwat" which is the source of food for living beings. I planned on the solid crust of the earth in four periods. Consider the meaning of "strengths": food for living things that need it. First, the food of living organisms must be composed of organic matter such as proteins, sugars, fats, nucleotides, and so on. Of course, they are not connected yet. When they bind together, they form the chain molecules that make up our food.
Second: For which creatures is this food created? "The time when food sources formed on the Earth's primary solid crust was about four billion years ago." But not for living things today? For the generation after the primary sperm, that is, for the first anaerobic nuclei without nuclei, which is the primary mixed sperm. Which has the property of reproducibility. And its gene is not yet inside the nuclear membrane. These four periods of food sources have been described by biologists and named exactly these four periods.
In which of these four periods did sperm creation occur? Certainly in the fourth period. In which the command of God flows and the inanimate matter is transformed into a living thing by an instantaneous leap. This is the answer of biologists. How does inanimate matter come to life? By the command of God and with a momentary leap.
God's command to create the universe from nothingness, the Day of Judgment and the likeness of Jesus (pbuh) and the creation of man (evolved man) from inanimate matter or soil is used in the Qur'an. The creation of man, which leads to the evolution of man, took place in the very first single cell of life. (In eukaryotes) and the rest is growth and evolution.
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heydarian saeed
Graduate Poster
... According to what has been said, the stages of human evolution according to the logic of the Qur'an are as follows: First - the emergence of the main food sources that are rooted in the creation of man from mud. And it is the beginning of life. Second - in "Rawasi", ie on the solid outer crust of the earth is formed. Third, in one of the four periods of food resource formation, the most important life event occurs, which is the formation of chain organic macromolecules containing RNA life information codes.
And it was probably at the end of this period. In the fourth period - the sperm is formed. And God creates the newly formed sperm in which there is the potential for reproduction without the intervention of males and females in this period. It is then placed in the process of evolution. That is, it is passed on to the next generations. God first creates and then nurtures it and directs it to the desired goal. )Verses 2 and 3 of Sura 87 (See how beautifully the following verses tell us the different steps described above:
Verse 4 of Sura 16 after verse 3 which creates the heavens and the earth. Says - Meaning: He created man from a sperm. Then (man) is openly hostile )!Becomes an infidel(
Verse 7 of Sura 82 - Meaning: The One who created you and made you [then] organized you. (Made your shape and face beautiful)
And verses 20 to 23 of Sura 77 - Meaning: Did We not create you from a little water? And we did not put it in a firm position? Until the appointed time, we overcame our destiny and planning based on divine destiny. And what powerful planning we did.
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And it was probably at the end of this period. In the fourth period - the sperm is formed. And God creates the newly formed sperm in which there is the potential for reproduction without the intervention of males and females in this period. It is then placed in the process of evolution. That is, it is passed on to the next generations. God first creates and then nurtures it and directs it to the desired goal. )Verses 2 and 3 of Sura 87 (See how beautifully the following verses tell us the different steps described above:
Verse 4 of Sura 16 after verse 3 which creates the heavens and the earth. Says - Meaning: He created man from a sperm. Then (man) is openly hostile )!Becomes an infidel(
Verse 7 of Sura 82 - Meaning: The One who created you and made you [then] organized you. (Made your shape and face beautiful)
And verses 20 to 23 of Sura 77 - Meaning: Did We not create you from a little water? And we did not put it in a firm position? Until the appointed time, we overcame our destiny and planning based on divine destiny. And what powerful planning we did.
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heydarian saeed
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... I explain the non-biological origin of biopolymers in the second stage of "strength" or food sources.
Free oxygen acts like a dangerous toxin in the process of forming forces, disrupting the formation of life and oxidizing molecules. For this purpose, it is kept away from the environment. Any amount of oxygen that is released is immediately absorbed by other elements and forms the minerals of the Earth's outer crust.
This is why 47% of the Earth's solid crust is oxygen. The amount of free oxygen that entered the Earth's early atmosphere formed water due to the environment playing with hydrogen. Life on earth required a lack of free oxygen and a small amount of water. The spark of life needed these two factors as the initial conditions. Abundant water was needed when the first sperm was created. And life continued its evolution in water.
Water molecules, methane and ammonia and to some extent hydrogen sulfide were the basic molecules of life. Biopolymerization occurs from molecules of biomonomers such as proteins, nucleotides, and sugars. One or more molecules of water depending on the number of monomer molecules combined (bonded) in the free medium becomes aqueous water. This repellent water is very important in the process of life.
It also took place between the Hama Masnoon and the Salsal Kalfkhar (between the hard and firm body and the soft body).
In living cells, enzymes act as catalysts, and these catalysts absorb the excreted water from the environment to make more molecules stick together. In the beginning, according to the Qur'an, this hot-baked pottery (like a pottery pot that takes water and dries in a fire) acts as a catalyst.
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Free oxygen acts like a dangerous toxin in the process of forming forces, disrupting the formation of life and oxidizing molecules. For this purpose, it is kept away from the environment. Any amount of oxygen that is released is immediately absorbed by other elements and forms the minerals of the Earth's outer crust.
This is why 47% of the Earth's solid crust is oxygen. The amount of free oxygen that entered the Earth's early atmosphere formed water due to the environment playing with hydrogen. Life on earth required a lack of free oxygen and a small amount of water. The spark of life needed these two factors as the initial conditions. Abundant water was needed when the first sperm was created. And life continued its evolution in water.
Water molecules, methane and ammonia and to some extent hydrogen sulfide were the basic molecules of life. Biopolymerization occurs from molecules of biomonomers such as proteins, nucleotides, and sugars. One or more molecules of water depending on the number of monomer molecules combined (bonded) in the free medium becomes aqueous water. This repellent water is very important in the process of life.
It also took place between the Hama Masnoon and the Salsal Kalfkhar (between the hard and firm body and the soft body).
In living cells, enzymes act as catalysts, and these catalysts absorb the excreted water from the environment to make more molecules stick together. In the beginning, according to the Qur'an, this hot-baked pottery (like a pottery pot that takes water and dries in a fire) acts as a catalyst.
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heydarian saeed
Graduate Poster
...This reaction is not practical in the process of non-biological synthesis. But according to experiments, if we dilute a dilute aqueous solution of monomer molecules including proteins, sugars, simple nucleotides with a dropper on very hot silicate mineral sand or clay, or hot-baked pottery. Steam water remains a sticky black mass. And monomers are converted to polymers. This is how protonoids are formed.
When the temperature of the outer surface of the earth reached about 130 to 150 degrees, the process of forces began. In a low water environment, the possibility of the formation of a sticky black mass was provided. Low water in these conditions is an important factor in the formation of polymer molecules, and God Almighty uses certain words to understand the role of the most important factors in the creation of life.
In other words, God expresses the truth with His words. Organic polymer molecules remain on them in the form of a viscous, black mass consisting of proteins and nucleic acids, which is the same: Hama Masnoon is the who is placed on the salsal. Meaning: We created black and stinking mud from dry mud. (Sura 15 verse 26.)
In fact, man was created from a soft black mass in hot, baked clay. The seed that is the beginning of the creation of life. When biological food is created, in other words, the last period of “Aghwat” .(food sources)
is the sperm that has the ability to reproduce itself. This content is completely scientific and based on experimental experiments.
Let's take a look at modern science in this regard. The key scientific and research points in the book Genesis of Life were translated and quoted exactly by Professor Kaplan. And the rest of this material is completely scientific and based on experiments by the famous microbiologist John Desmond Bernal, a pioneer of X-ray crystallography and a political activist and member of the British Communist Party.
In addition, Professor Richard E. Dickerson referred to her experiment in her article Chemical Evolution of the Beginning of Life in the 1986 scientific journal Evolution Spektrum der Wissenschaft-Scientific American.
Of course, Professor Bernal did not know what he had done to express the miracle of the Qur'an with his experiment, which he used as evidence of materialism, and this is truly the miracle of the Qur'an. Whose scientific facts are proved by modern science itself.
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When the temperature of the outer surface of the earth reached about 130 to 150 degrees, the process of forces began. In a low water environment, the possibility of the formation of a sticky black mass was provided. Low water in these conditions is an important factor in the formation of polymer molecules, and God Almighty uses certain words to understand the role of the most important factors in the creation of life.
In other words, God expresses the truth with His words. Organic polymer molecules remain on them in the form of a viscous, black mass consisting of proteins and nucleic acids, which is the same: Hama Masnoon is the who is placed on the salsal. Meaning: We created black and stinking mud from dry mud. (Sura 15 verse 26.)
In fact, man was created from a soft black mass in hot, baked clay. The seed that is the beginning of the creation of life. When biological food is created, in other words, the last period of “Aghwat” .(food sources)
is the sperm that has the ability to reproduce itself. This content is completely scientific and based on experimental experiments.
Let's take a look at modern science in this regard. The key scientific and research points in the book Genesis of Life were translated and quoted exactly by Professor Kaplan. And the rest of this material is completely scientific and based on experiments by the famous microbiologist John Desmond Bernal, a pioneer of X-ray crystallography and a political activist and member of the British Communist Party.
In addition, Professor Richard E. Dickerson referred to her experiment in her article Chemical Evolution of the Beginning of Life in the 1986 scientific journal Evolution Spektrum der Wissenschaft-Scientific American.
Of course, Professor Bernal did not know what he had done to express the miracle of the Qur'an with his experiment, which he used as evidence of materialism, and this is truly the miracle of the Qur'an. Whose scientific facts are proved by modern science itself.
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turingtest
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"Man is a golem" is not evolution, and it's not science.
You have just produced 10 posts in a row, without quoting who you are replying to.
If you are replying to a post that I made, then you need to quote my post and address your reply to me directly ... because otherwise I am not going to read any more of your huge masses of religious belief about the Koran
The debate is at an end until you can show how you have published your claim that Man did not evolve from earlier apes ... and that means a proper scientific research paper published in a real mainstream science research journal.
All genuinely independent non-religious scientists today agree that Homo Sapiens evolved from earlier apes, and the evidence for that is universally shown in 99.99% of all science research papers ever written.
If you disagree with all of established evolutionary science, then you MUST publish a real paper showing how all of that evolutionary science is wrong. You have not done that. You will not be able to do it, because you do not have any such genuine evidence.
And that is the end the discussion.
MarkCorrigan
Героям слава!
Heydarian stop preaching and answer questions. Your continued attempts to handwave things away are becoming more laughable with each passing screed.
Scorpion
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Here are some translations of the verse 15.26:
Pickthall. Verily We created man of potter's clay of black mud altered,
Shakir. And certainly We created man of clay that gives forth sound, of black mud fashioned in shape.
Sherali. And, surely, WE created man from dry ringing clay, of black mud wrought into shape.
Yusuf Ali .We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape;
The bible says at Genesis chapter 2 verse 7
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground,
Clearly the Quran and Bible are both nonsense
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Cosmic Yak
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There is also the thorny problem of Noah.
If this story is true, and we know that many Muslims believe it to be so, then all the races of humans are descended from one Middle-Eastern family.
I have not yet heard a coherent explanation of how this could have happened, and happened so quickly.
I once asked some of my Turkish students about this mud thing, and how we got different races from Adam and Eve. Their answer was that Adam was created from different kinds of mud- Caucasian mud, African mud, Chinese mud and so on, and somehow, when he and Eve had children, this mud separated out into the different ethnicities.
I could see in their faces that even they realised, when they said it out loud, that was an utterly ridiculous proposition.
If this story is true, and we know that many Muslims believe it to be so, then all the races of humans are descended from one Middle-Eastern family.
I have not yet heard a coherent explanation of how this could have happened, and happened so quickly.
I once asked some of my Turkish students about this mud thing, and how we got different races from Adam and Eve. Their answer was that Adam was created from different kinds of mud- Caucasian mud, African mud, Chinese mud and so on, and somehow, when he and Eve had children, this mud separated out into the different ethnicities.
I could see in their faces that even they realised, when they said it out loud, that was an utterly ridiculous proposition.
Scorpion
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According to the Quran God created and destroyed many people. This is nothing to do with Darwin's evolution theory.
Here are some of the people the Allah of the quran is supposed to have destroyed. The people of Lot, and Thalmud, and Ad, and Pharaoh, and Sodom and Gomorrah, and Tubba.
7.4 How many towns have We destroyed (for their sins)? Our punishment took them on a sudden by night or while they slept for their afternoon rest.
8.54 (Deeds) after the manner of the people of Pharaoh and those before them": They treated as false the Signs of their Lord: so We destroyed them for their crimes, and We drowned the people of Pharaoh: for they were all oppressors and wrong- doers.
10.13 Generations before you We destroyed when they did wrong: their apostles came to them with clear-signs, but they would not believe! thus do We requite those who sin!
17.17 How many generations have We destroyed after Noah? and enough is thy Lord to note and see the sins of His servants.
18.59 Such were the populations we destroyed when they committed iniquities; but we fixed an appointed time for their destruction.
19.74 But how many (countless) generations before them have we destroyed, who were even better in equipment and in glitter to the eye?
19.98 But how many (countless) generations before them have We destroyed? Canst thou find a single one of them (now) or hear (so much as) a whisper of them?
44.37 What! Are they better than the people of Tubba and those who were before them? We destroyed them because they were guilty of sin.
053.050 And that it is He Who destroyed the (powerful) ancient 'Ad (people),
53.53 And He destroyed the Overthrown Cities (of Sodom and Gomorrah).
54.34 We sent against them a violent Tornado with showers of stones, (which destroyed them), except Lut's household: them We delivered by early Dawn,-
69.5 But the Thamud,- they were destroyed by a terrible Storm of thunder and lightning!
69.6 And the 'Ad, they were destroyed by a furious Wind, exceedingly violent;
We are now 55 pages into:
"God is awesome in the way I say he is awesome because the Quran says so and I know the Quran is right because God wrote it" arguing with "No God is awesome in the way I say he is awesome because the Bible says so and I know the Bible is right because God wrote it" and literally no other arguments.
"God is awesome in the way I say he is awesome because the Quran says so and I know the Quran is right because God wrote it" arguing with "No God is awesome in the way I say he is awesome because the Bible says so and I know the Bible is right because God wrote it" and literally no other arguments.
Mojo
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Actually, it seems to have been you, not your “commentators on the Qur’an” who said this, and you said that it was “the most important drawback”:
Is there more than one person using your account?
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All woosters claim to agree with "logic and science" they just think it's something they can ignore when it gives them answers they don't want.
"I agree with mathematics when it says 2+2=4, but if I want 2+2 to equal 5 some of the time that doesn't mean I'm rejecting mathematics" is a headspace they have actually talked themselves into.
"I agree with mathematics when it says 2+2=4, but if I want 2+2 to equal 5 some of the time that doesn't mean I'm rejecting mathematics" is a headspace they have actually talked themselves into.
Heydarain – here's an honest offer with no strings attached -
- would you like to have a proper adult conversation about why you believe in the existence of God?
That means without you posting replies that just have pages of what you believe is meant by all sorts of verses from the Koran. Instead of you doing that (because that's not a conversation … when you do that it's just page-after-page of you telling us what you believe is revealed from the Koran). So instead of you replying with a post like that, then what we do is, for example, I will ask you some questions about why you believe God exists …
… that's very clear & simple, is it not?
… it's also the absolutely central question upon which all your beliefs are based, correct?
… because if that were not true, i.e. if you did not believe in the existence of God, then you would have no reason at all for any religious belief, correct? …
… so that is the absolutely essential question here, i.e. namely – Q: why do you believe that the God exists?
… do NOT tell me your reason for believing with an immediate explanation right away … instead just tell me whether you are willing to have that conversation about why you believe in the existence of God.
Are you willing to do that, to have that conversation about God; Yes or No?
- would you like to have a proper adult conversation about why you believe in the existence of God?
That means without you posting replies that just have pages of what you believe is meant by all sorts of verses from the Koran. Instead of you doing that (because that's not a conversation … when you do that it's just page-after-page of you telling us what you believe is revealed from the Koran). So instead of you replying with a post like that, then what we do is, for example, I will ask you some questions about why you believe God exists …
… that's very clear & simple, is it not?
… it's also the absolutely central question upon which all your beliefs are based, correct?
… because if that were not true, i.e. if you did not believe in the existence of God, then you would have no reason at all for any religious belief, correct? …
… so that is the absolutely essential question here, i.e. namely – Q: why do you believe that the God exists?
… do NOT tell me your reason for believing with an immediate explanation right away … instead just tell me whether you are willing to have that conversation about why you believe in the existence of God.
Are you willing to do that, to have that conversation about God; Yes or No?
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abaddon
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Well, it's a good question. What do you believe and why do you believe it? God botherers will talk all day about the first bit, what they believe, but the why part? they avoid that like the plague.Heydarain – here's an honest offer with no strings attached -
- would you like to have a proper adult conversation about why you believe in the existence of God?
That means without you posting replies that just have pages of what you believe is meant by all sorts of verses from the Koran. Instead of you doing that (because that's not a conversation … when you do that it's just page-after-page of you telling us what you believe is revealed from the Koran). So instead of you replying with a post like that, then what we do is, for example, I will ask you some questions about why you believe God exists …
… that's very clear & simple, is it not?
… it's also the absolutely central question upon which all your beliefs are based, correct?
… because if that were not true, i.e. if you did not believe in the existence of God, then you would have no reason at all for any religious belief, correct? …
… so that is the absolutely essential question here, i.e. namely – Q: why do you believe that the God exists?
… do NOT tell me your reason for believing with an immediate explanation right away … instead just tell me whether you are willing to have that conversation about why you believe in the existence of God.
Are you willing to do that, to have that conversation about God; Yes or No?
heydarian saeed
Graduate Poster
Hello. There is exactly hell. But it is singularity. This is the destiny of the universe. Which goes the other way. Of course, there are many scientific lessons in all the allegorical and allegorical verses of the Qur'an. Do not forget that I told you the number 19 in hell. This is the number 19 elementary particles in hell. Which will heat 10 to 32 degrees Kelvin. And the universe will enter it completely. And the whole universe will experience it. This is not a claim. If you would like to discuss this with NASA. To be sure. I am ready to participate in this negotiation.
Let me remind you that Professor Hawking has confirmed this. Hawking brought physics closer to the Qur'an. Of course, there are many issues of modern science in the Qur'an that one can not imagine. And maybe in the future we will understand some of them. And we can discover. We have 3 verses in Quran for extremely advanced technology of quantum teleportation. I personally enjoyed it immensely. You will not see these interpretations of the Qur'an anywhere. And you will not hear from anyone. I have not said this anywhere. Nowhere. Even in my country. In my city. And I did not say it in Quranic meetings.
heydarian saeed
Graduate Poster
... Continue the article in message 2185 :
The Earth separated from the solar cloud 4.6 billion years ago and formed during the two periods of atomic evolution and chemical evolution, where a solid crust was placed. It took a billion years for the first single-celled life, a anaerobic, nucleus-free bacterium to emerge. Scientists call this single cell sperm (which they recently called pre-sperm with the discovery of RNA) because it does not yet have a nuclear membrane.
Only the primary gene macromolecules - RNA - that did not have some of the characteristics of DNA macromolecules were present in the environment, and the cell membrane that separated them from the environment was not evolved. It is a special sperm that had the signs of life and could reproduce. The Holy Quran calls this sperm (Amshaj - Single cell without membrane and protector) of the embryo.
Which is tested in the evolution of human creation. Scientists do not know how the nuclear membrane formed that separated the sperm from its surroundings. This sperm was reproducible and could organize the proteins it needed. Therefore, this environment must be protected. To keep a single cell healthy. And continue to evolve.
The Earth's atmosphere begins to form. The onset of precipitation on Earth after the solid crust has cooled has been below the boiling point of water. There is no consensus that this single cell existed in the early Earth before precipitation or in the Earth's early waters.
Proteins are created by chain linkage and loss of water molecules. Which is the "water of Spilled out" in verse 6 of Sura 86. (Jumping water - water poured out - water expelled) We connect the next verse, ie 7 of Sura 86, to the waist of a man and the breast of a woman. And we say that we mean this jumping water: male sperm and female egg.
But in the Qur'an it does not mean this at all. It refers to a specific chemical process in the early stages of sperm formation. Which has occurred in mud and dried pottery. Which I will explain to you in the following.
To clarify your mind, this explanation is necessary: The word “Solb” means hard and solid, which in this verse means hard clay and dried pottery. And the word “Taraib” means derived from soil and soft soil.
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The Earth separated from the solar cloud 4.6 billion years ago and formed during the two periods of atomic evolution and chemical evolution, where a solid crust was placed. It took a billion years for the first single-celled life, a anaerobic, nucleus-free bacterium to emerge. Scientists call this single cell sperm (which they recently called pre-sperm with the discovery of RNA) because it does not yet have a nuclear membrane.
Only the primary gene macromolecules - RNA - that did not have some of the characteristics of DNA macromolecules were present in the environment, and the cell membrane that separated them from the environment was not evolved. It is a special sperm that had the signs of life and could reproduce. The Holy Quran calls this sperm (Amshaj - Single cell without membrane and protector) of the embryo.
Which is tested in the evolution of human creation. Scientists do not know how the nuclear membrane formed that separated the sperm from its surroundings. This sperm was reproducible and could organize the proteins it needed. Therefore, this environment must be protected. To keep a single cell healthy. And continue to evolve.
The Earth's atmosphere begins to form. The onset of precipitation on Earth after the solid crust has cooled has been below the boiling point of water. There is no consensus that this single cell existed in the early Earth before precipitation or in the Earth's early waters.
Proteins are created by chain linkage and loss of water molecules. Which is the "water of Spilled out" in verse 6 of Sura 86. (Jumping water - water poured out - water expelled) We connect the next verse, ie 7 of Sura 86, to the waist of a man and the breast of a woman. And we say that we mean this jumping water: male sperm and female egg.
But in the Qur'an it does not mean this at all. It refers to a specific chemical process in the early stages of sperm formation. Which has occurred in mud and dried pottery. Which I will explain to you in the following.
To clarify your mind, this explanation is necessary: The word “Solb” means hard and solid, which in this verse means hard clay and dried pottery. And the word “Taraib” means derived from soil and soft soil.
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heydarian saeed
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... This chemical reaction must take place in an environment that absorbs water. Today's living organisms use the ATP molecule as a catalyst, a water-stable triphosphate anhydride.
In the primary soil, this reaction took place in a dry and hot environment with the presence of polyphosphate and cyanide hydride derivatives and carbodiamides. Professor Fox and colleagues obtained a black mass by heating a dry mixture of amino acids at 150 to 200 degrees for a few hours. Which dissolves well in water. And polyamino acids were composed of one or two dozen members.
This compound had a peptide bond and a protein similarity. It was called a protonoid. Of course, most of the bonds were not of the alpha isomer type. (Experiments with polymerized organic compounds were found in amino acid isomers. If only alpha isomers were used in living tissue), they showed enzymatic activity.
They performed the experiment for several days at 75 degrees Celsius. And they got the same result. This experiment was repeated in the presence of polyphosphates at 70 ° C. And gained more chains. They also achieved similar results in the presence of volcanic rock and pottery and sand.
Biochemists Paecht and Horowitz achieved polymerization of proteins and nucleic acids in several experiments on pottery, pyrite. Bernal J.D. In the book Genesis of Life, it is stated: Organic molecules were absorbed by the outer surface of the minerals in their environment (inside the primary earth pits) and due to heat and dryness, and then condensed.
And these minerals, such as clay or mica, are composed of negatively charged silicate crust. The ions absorbed positively charged monomeric molecules. In the intermolecular space of the silicate crust and between them were water molecules. These minerals could do well. Play the role of catalyst.
In asteroids whose lifespan is equal to the lifespan of Earth. And it has provided scientists with good information about life events. A sticky black mass was observed. And has been tested. In this black mass, polymerized compounds of protein and amino acids have been discovered and proven. (Refer to the article on pottery and clay in the 1979 pamphlet Spektrum der Wissen schaft) Quoted from the article Chemical Evolution in the Origin of Life by Prof. De Kersan.
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In the primary soil, this reaction took place in a dry and hot environment with the presence of polyphosphate and cyanide hydride derivatives and carbodiamides. Professor Fox and colleagues obtained a black mass by heating a dry mixture of amino acids at 150 to 200 degrees for a few hours. Which dissolves well in water. And polyamino acids were composed of one or two dozen members.
This compound had a peptide bond and a protein similarity. It was called a protonoid. Of course, most of the bonds were not of the alpha isomer type. (Experiments with polymerized organic compounds were found in amino acid isomers. If only alpha isomers were used in living tissue), they showed enzymatic activity.
They performed the experiment for several days at 75 degrees Celsius. And they got the same result. This experiment was repeated in the presence of polyphosphates at 70 ° C. And gained more chains. They also achieved similar results in the presence of volcanic rock and pottery and sand.
Biochemists Paecht and Horowitz achieved polymerization of proteins and nucleic acids in several experiments on pottery, pyrite. Bernal J.D. In the book Genesis of Life, it is stated: Organic molecules were absorbed by the outer surface of the minerals in their environment (inside the primary earth pits) and due to heat and dryness, and then condensed.
And these minerals, such as clay or mica, are composed of negatively charged silicate crust. The ions absorbed positively charged monomeric molecules. In the intermolecular space of the silicate crust and between them were water molecules. These minerals could do well. Play the role of catalyst.
In asteroids whose lifespan is equal to the lifespan of Earth. And it has provided scientists with good information about life events. A sticky black mass was observed. And has been tested. In this black mass, polymerized compounds of protein and amino acids have been discovered and proven. (Refer to the article on pottery and clay in the 1979 pamphlet Spektrum der Wissen schaft) Quoted from the article Chemical Evolution in the Origin of Life by Prof. De Kersan.
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