The Oldest Religious Structures & Ancient Aliens?

[Foster Zygote]

No scale, no context, no answer.

This is clearly an alien toilet.

 

[Elizabeth I]

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Are those emeralds? Can I have some?

 

[Marduk]

Are those emeralds? Can I have some?

you won't get to ask him til youre dead
however I do have some spare mesopotamian "divine properties enabling cosmic activity"
http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd/epsd/e3658.html
theres always enough to go round, though you might have to form an orderly queue

 

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[edge]

He was asking if I thought it possible that biblical era sailors noticed the earth was curved and and concluded it was round, as Ladewig had said sailors might have done.

He was not asking if I thought biblical era sailors had an opinion on Ladewig's post.

For the record, I think the first is possible, the latter is not.

Regards, Canis

They’re being obnoxious, but you’re right.
It seems to me that an advance culture might have been cruising around and starting new places, sites, settled for a while then kept expanding because of the similarity with all these sacred places.

Engineers say they would have a difficult time building the larger structures.
I find this all fascinating and I like the different theories.


Foster asked a while back:

If the pyramids were built by aliens then why do we see so much evidence of the Egyptians learning to build them by trial and error over many generations?

The Saqqara stepped pyramid is an example of earlier building techniques. Did the aliens, capable of interstellar travel, need to practice making piles of stone?

First they are tombs or a burial pyramids where the great pyramid isn’t, no mummies found there.
It’s obvious that the different dynasties tried different building techniques.
The other one may just have been built that way on propose, all for different parts of worship and rituals,.
I get this from some one whose generation has lived there from the beginning.
Some of the lesser-known sites go back way further in the timeline also.
What’s interesting is what the locals believe about it all.

Then we have this,
Crystal Altar of Abu Garab

http://www.cboulter.com/~tourism/Abu Garab/index.htm

The size of the vein of quartz they cut this from must have been amazing.
Under the lid there is suppose to be a tunnel that goes down to the Aquifer.

The locals say there was a great knowledge that was lost further back than most all the foreign archeologists say the age of these sites really are.
That information has been passed down from their ancestors through their lineage.
They are in agreement with what you would call the fringe scientists and archeologists.

So it makes me wonder.
I looked at this link: http://www.peterthomson.co.uk/ancients/liftingjack.html

That probably explains the bent pyramid.
They defiantly knew things that took us thousands of years to re-learn.

 

[MikeSun5]

It's a real insult to our forefathers that these woos think that they were too thick to work these things out and that aliens had to do it for them.

I've been saying this for years. It's really unfortunate that early humans aren't given the credit they're due.

Again, if aliens built ancient structures, they would have done a better job. If you can make spaceships that can travel interstellar distances, why would you carve stuff out of rocks using primitive tools? Why not use metal or plastic? Why not use lasers?

And if visiting aliens were here to help our ancient ancestors, how come they didn't give us knowlege of any of the outer planets, teach us how to make a compass, etc.? They really left us hanging out to dry on a lot of helpful things that would have been absurdly easy for them to explain...

 

[edge]

I've been saying this for years. It's really unfortunate that early humans aren't given the credit they're due.

Again, if aliens built ancient structures, they would have done a better job. If you can make spaceships that can travel interstellar distances, why would you carve stuff out of rocks using primitive tools? Why not use metal or plastic? Why not use lasers?

And if visiting aliens were here to help our ancient ancestors, how come they didn't give us knowlege of any of the outer planets, teach us how to make a compass, etc.? They really left us hanging out to dry on a lot of helpful things that would have been absurdly easy for them to explain...

That whole site is a compass.
Maybe they got here but they were stranded.
What ever it was that was happening meant there was a great deal of knowledge we don't understand.

 

[edge]

Then again where they able to look forward?
Who knows?

 

[dafydd]

That whole site is a compass.
Maybe they got here but they were stranded.
What ever it was that was happening meant there was a great deal of knowledge we I don't understand.

ftfy

 

[MikeSun5]

^^that is 100% INCORRECT, edge. Please see this link that will explain about that "helicopter..."

Also, edge, I noticed you did one of those, "Atheists believe ______, so you guys must explain ______." Don't do that. Not everyone is an atheist, and those that are don't have to explain anything you heard from one specific atheist.

 

[caniswalensis]

Then again where they able to look forward?
Who knows?

the first is someone's name, damaged & repaired. It is not a helicopter.

The second is a picture of lotus flowers, not light bulbs.

 

[MikeSun5]

the first is someone's name, damaged & repaired. It is not a helicopter.

The second is a picture of lotus flowers, not light bulbs.

edge!!! PLEASE pay attention to this!!!!!

We are trying to help you.

 

[caniswalensis]

I will confess that I got ecited the first time I saw these images and read their alternative descriptions as high-tech objects. I was already a sceptic and critical thinker, but my heart gave a little leap of hope left over from my days as a believer in all things paranormal & supernatural. They really look convincing, especially the helicopter.

I pulled it together long enough to do the research and was jolted back to reality by the more mundane, but also very interesting stories behind what these images really portray.

Aliens? No. But a very good lesson in pareidolia & wishful thinking? YES!

Regards, Canis

 

[Elizabeth I]

First they are tombs or a burial pyramids where the great pyramid isn’t, no mummies found there.

Wrong, bucko. It was looted.

They defiantly knew things that took us thousands of years to re-learn.

What were they defiant about?

 

[Mudcat]

Never knew the explanation behind those hieroglyph but that was pretty much what I was expecting. Thanks for sharing that link MikeSun

 

[Dinwar]

That whole site is a compass.

This is the worst argument I've seen. The world SPINS, which means that anyone who spends time outside can tell direction via the sky. I used to rely on that in the field (and using the sun for the time). These people lived by the sun and stars--they worshiped them for a reason. It's pretty obvious that they would build their temples based on them.

 

[Akhenaten]

He was asking if I thought it possible that biblical era sailors noticed the earth was curved and and concluded it was round, as Ladewig had said sailors might have done.

He was not asking if I thought biblical era sailors had an opinion on Ladewig's post.

For the record, I think the first is possible, the latter is not.

Regards, Canis

They’re being obnoxious, but you’re right.

Pointing out that you continually post gibberish isn't as obnoxious as your blithe ignorance of facts, your adamant refusal to learn anything and your penchant for searching out every bit of pseudohistorical rubbish you can find to post in support of your complete misunderstanding of Just About Everything.

It seems to me that an advance culture might have been cruising around and starting new places, sites, settled for a while then kept expanding because of the similarity with all these sacred places.

To say that it 'seems' this way to you dishonestly implies that you have some kind of evidence on which to base these ridiculous ideas, but the truth is you simply make stuff up out of whole cloth and then pretend that it's a legitimate theory.

Engineers say they would have a difficult time building the larger structures.

Are you seriously suggesting that the engineers responsible for this would have difficulty constructing a big pile of rocks?

Srsly???

I find this all fascinating and I like the different theories.

"OMG Aliens!!!" and "goddidit" aren't theories.

Foster asked a while back:

If the pyramids were built by aliens then why do we see so much evidence of the Egyptians learning to build them by trial and error over many generations?

The Saqqara stepped pyramid is an example of earlier building techniques. Did the aliens, capable of interstellar travel, need to practice making piles of stone?

First they are tombs or a burial pyramids where the great pyramid isn’t, no mummies found there.

Horus wept.

Where the hell do you get these ridiculous ideas, edge?

Rather than write out an explanation that you won't read, I'll post a link that you won't follow to an earlier thread on this exact subject:

The Great Pyramid - what is it for?​

I know there's no chance that you'll learn anything from it, but it's only three pages and hopefully some of the viewers who are feeling a bit jaded with your incessant prattling will find it to be an entertaining and informative diversion.

It’s obvious that the different dynasties tried different building techniques.
The other one may just have been built that way on propose, all for different parts of worship and rituals.

Does this picture make any sense to you, edge?

Does the logical progression from mastaba to stepped pyramid to true pyramid occur to you or not?

If it doesn't, there's really little point in anyone attempting to explain it further to you.

I get this from some one whose generation has lived there from the beginning.
Some of the lesser-known sites go back way further in the timeline also.
What’s interesting is what the locals believe about it all.

What???

Then we have this,
Crystal Altar of Abu Garab

http://www.cboulter.com/~tourism/Abu Garab/index.htm

The size of the vein of quartz they cut this from must have been amazing.
Under the lid there is suppose to be a tunnel that goes down to the Aquifer.

The locals say there was a great knowledge that was lost further back than most all the foreign archeologists say the age of these sites really are.
That information has been passed down from their ancestors through their lineage.
They are in agreement with what you would call the fringe scientists and archeologists.

Goatherders, fringe 'scientists and archæologists' vs professional archæologists working with a knowledge base painstakingly assembled over many, many decades and supported by reams of incontrovertible evidence.

That you choose the goatherders is rather telling, edge.

So it makes me wonder.
I looked at this link: http://www.peterthomson.co.uk/ancients/liftingjack.html

That probably explains the bent pyramid.

What definitely explains the bent Pyramid is that they started it at too steep an angle and ran into problems that were alleviated by reducing the angle (and therefore the mass) of the top part of the structure.

The Pyramid actually went through about three different alterations away from the original plans, which called for the structure to have an angle of almost 60o. The was changed to a less steep slope of almost 55o, requiring that the base be enlarged. This first alteration can be clearly seen in the ceiling and the side walls of the north access corridor, about twelve meters from the entrance. These early stages of construction used the traditional method of laying the courses of the core with the stones sloping inward. However, this adjustment in slope proved to be inadequate.

When the pyramid was about 45 meters high, the angle of the slope was reduced to 45o (later pyramid usually had a slope of between 52 and 53 degrees), which had the effect of reducing the mass of the upper part of the pyramid and thus reducing the load on the substructure. At this point in the pyramid's construction, the builders began laying the stone courses horizontally (rather than with the stones sloping inwards). Apparently the builders had learned that the inward sloping layers of the core, rather than adding stability, actually increased the stresses within the structure.

Read more . . .​

Edge, you must see the links to valid sources of information like the one above all the time in your search for more nonsense to post.

What the dickens is your motivation for rejecting it and just posting the malarky?

They defiantly knew things that took us thousands of years to re-learn.

And you defiantly refuse to learn anything.

 

[Akhenaten]

Then again where they able to look forward?
Who knows?

Did you even bother to try looking this up to see what it might actually be?

The Dendera Reliefs​

If you take the time to read the whole article you'll get to this bit near the end:

But what does any of this have to do with electric light bulbs? The answer is, nothing at all. It is the prejudiced conceit of members of our own modern culture that compel them to impose their own symbols, values, and meaning on a civilization so distant and different, a civilization which they do not make the least effort to understand. It is within the context of the ancient Egyptian religion that these temple walls must be interpreted, not within the context of our own modern home appliances.

my bolding​

Sounds familiar.

 

[edge]

Look I know all the old interpretations or explanations on how they were built and what the purposes are, but to me those look like lighting and there was no soot found inside these pyramids.
There should have been?
My position is there are things you want to over look and that the fringe theorist overlook or can’t explain.
Was there pyramid power?
I don’t know, but it sure looks like that might be a possibility considering all the factors to all these structures, there had to be a greater purpose for them to have people willing to build them and that is what the inhabitants state even today.
I found this link interesting from your link.

http://www.gizapower.com/Articles/door2.html
I will look at your other links when I have the time.