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The Official UK Election Thread! 6th May it is!

Fiona said:
While I do not have sufficient experience of the lib dems to say whether they are as Rolfe says, I do remember that they produced racist campaigne material in at least one area where the BNP were garnering support. I do not recall the other parties doing that
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Would that be the rows that happened in 1993?

I can't remember anything more recent and either my google-fu is poor or that was the incident you're talking about.
 
Some good news today - the government hasn't had to borrow as much as was predicted:

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£163.4bn this year, official figures have shown.

The borrowing figure for the 2009-10 financial year is lower than the £166.5bn predicted by Chancellor Alistair Darling in April's Budget.

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So that has to help and crime is still falling: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8636798.stm

All good news. Be interesting how that will feed into the debates tonight and the election itself.
 
Would be better for Broon if it was about the economy tonight I suppose.

In other news:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ele...ECTION-2010-Nick-Clegg-Nazi-slur-Britain.html
Nick Clegg has claimed that the British people have ‘a more insidious cross to bear’ than Germany over the Second World War.

In an astonishing attack on our national pride, the Liberal Democrat leader said we suffered from ‘delusions of grandeur’ and a ‘misplaced sense of superiority’ over having defeated the horrors of Nazism.

He said we found it hard to accept that Germany had become a ‘vastly more prosperous nation’ and that ‘we need to be put back in our place’.

His views, outlined in a newspaper article when he was a member of the European Parliament, cast grave doubts over his judgment of international affairs ahead of the second leaders’ debate this evening, when the topic will be foreign policy.

The jibes threatened to undermine the surge which has taken Mr Clegg from also-ran to serious player in the opinion polls.
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Yes, how dare any Briton be anything but utterly opposed to the evils of fascism and Nazism!

Oh wait, this is the Daily Mail? Carry on..
 
Oh dear the Lib Dems really have rattled the Tories cage haven't they. Can't see why the Daily Mail, given it decade long support of Nazism and Hitler doesn't agree with Clegg.
 
Spoken to a friend of mine at Ipsos Mori. Allegedly the marginals are looking dreadful for the Tories. He doesn't see how they can win.
 
IMO, they're done.

It's like Massachusetts this February. Once the wind starts aggressively moving in the polls against type it's difficult for you to calm it down.

Prediction:

Tory: 33%

Lib Dem: 28%

Labour: 28%

Lib-Lab Government making a stink about reforming our 'broken electoral system'. Tories self-destruct and swing to the right.
 
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Undesired Walrus said:
IMO, they're done.

It's like Massachusetts this February. Once the wind starts aggressively moving in the polls against type it's difficult for you to calm it down.

Prediction:

Tory: 33%

Lib Dem: 28%

Labour: 28%

Lib-Lab Government making a stink about reforming our 'broken electoral system'. Tories self-destruct and swing to the right.
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Yes please.
 
Love it or hate it, don't use it in a Party Election Broadcast!

In a "pop will eat itself" moment, the BNP were already complaining about Marmite's advertising campaign featuring the Love party and the Hate party
The BNP claims the Hate Party was "clearly based" on itself.
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This is the article the Daily Mail is on about, by the way.

Don't mention the war. Grow up.

Took me a while to find it, but it does actually exist. Interesting. I wonder if Nick Clegg still has those views.
 
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Rolfe said:
Yes, it's just a series of anecdotes. You're not required to agree with me.

Ouch, there's another one.
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I know the old bird was from the Daily Fail, but did you hear the Question Time discussion after the debate? Exactly the same assessment of the LibDems. Dirty campaigns, saying one thing to one group and another to another. Attacking opponents for things they themselves would do without a second thought.

Ming was quite embarrassing about the donation from the convicted fraudster. Oh, it was OK to keep the money because some commission said it had been accepted in good faith and spent as the fraudster had intended. So they kept it. Too bad about the people whose life savings it was.

Just the same excuse as the expenses culprits. Oh, it was all within the rules! I think the fraudulent donation was a lot worse, because that was individuals who'd lost a great deal of money, rather than pilfering from the taxpayer in general.

Rolfe.
 
Agatha said:
Love it or hate it, don't use it in a Party Election Broadcast!

In a "pop will eat itself" moment, the BNP were already complaining about Marmite's advertising campaign featuring the Love party and the Hate party
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And I don't think they understand the irony that they are complaining about a TV ad using a stereotype of a "hate party" to get a message across and they (the BNP) think it was based on them...
 
If the use of Marmite is the worst thing about that advert then they are lucky. It looks dreadful. Was this put together by a mix of Powerpoint and Windows Movie Maker?
 
Uzzy said:
This is the article the Daily Mail is on about, by the way.

Don't mention the war. Grow up.

Took me a while to find it, but it does actually exist. Interesting. I wonder if Nick Clegg still has those views.
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Not bad may not go far enough mind. Fundimental difference between us and the nazis is that for the most part we got away with it.
 
Still on dear old Ming and the fraudster's donation. It was OK because they didn't give the fraudster a peerage! Here's the story.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...emocrat-donor-convicted-of-fraud-1039869.html

I can appreciate that it might have been difficult for the party to give the money back in one lump sum after it had been spent. However, the morality of simply hanging on to it and insisting it was all "permissible" stinks, in my opinion.

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
Still on dear old Ming and the fraudster's donation. It was OK because they didn't give the fraudster a peerage! Here's the story.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...emocrat-donor-convicted-of-fraud-1039869.html

I can appreciate that it might have been difficult for the party to give the money back in one lump sum after it had been spent. However, the morality of simply hanging on to it and insisting it was all "permissible" stinks, in my opinion.

Rolfe.
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I have to agree with this, they should have paid back the cash.
 
This is the first election where I've actually campaigned within the constituency where I live and vote, and I'm having a ball.

When I lived in England, I used to go to a constituency where more help was needed, and work there. This was great for making friends and working in a team, and being near the centre of the action. My first outing was in the 1994 Euro elections where we papered Peterhead yellow and got Allan Macartney elected with a majority of over 30,000. However, I was always a visitor. (One Doric lady, hearing my Lanarkshire accent, asked me if I was English!)

Not much of a team round here. We're at the extreme end of a very large constituency, with the constituency offices and so on about an hour and a half's drive away. We're not a target seat, so no extra help. In fact, we're totally broke. We don't even have enough leaflets. We have no posters or car stickers at all. (No big business and no trade union levy - lots and lots of donations of £50 or $100, but that doesn't bring in the millions we're fighting against.)

Instead of working in pairs or small teams, which is always companionable, we're splitting up and working singly just to get the ground covered. And I broke my foot a week ago, so I'm hobbling round the doors, trying to limp as little as possible.

Funnily enough, although I see evidence of Conservative activity, there's not a trace of any LibDem or Labour activity at all. And yet the LibDem candidate hopes to take the seat. Apparently this is a common finding across Scotland. I do feel sorry for those working in the real target seats, where no matter what they do, Nick Clegg's huge publicity coup which the SNP have been entirely denied keeps coming up to slap them in the face. (Years ago, this simply couldn't have happened. Older broadcasters confirm that it was absolutely verboten to air anything in Scotland that didn't have four-party reprsentation, but that's all been junked now.)

Nevertheless, I'm having a ball. People smile at me and take my leaflets and say thank you. I stop and look across the village rooftops, and realise I'm properly home now, not just helping out in someone else's patch. And no, we're not going to take this constituency in 2010. But just wait till 2011, and we might see a different story.

Rolfe.
 
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