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Merged The NPT (no planes theory) Discussed / Septemberclues
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... it can be used as a quick test as to who should be sent to the loony bin.
You could be used as a positive control, I think, rather than a patient.
McHrozni
No they suck. they fly down and pick your garbage apart, and then you have to go out and pick it all up again!!!!!
TAM
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I don't believe any of the various lies you have copied here from conspiracy kook websites and weaved into your rant.
In that one post, you have destroyed your credibility and shown that there are many many reasons i shouldn't believe a word you say.
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No they suck. they fly down and pick your garbage apart, and then you have to go out and pick it all up again!!!!!
TAM
And wash your car too.
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TruthersLie
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Lets see...
you start with a massive error based on poor research skills.
The hijackers are still alive myth has been busted so badly it is rather amusing to see it in 2010.
And you try to tie that together with the "they can't fly that good" myth.
Crashing into a building isn't that hard...
You really should ask your Dr if lithium Bicarbonate is right for you.
Okay, here's where you can start your reading:
Go to google and enter "911 skyjackers found alive", then select whatever
news sources you believe to be credible and read.
In total to date, 9 of the 19 named and pictured skyjackers were alive after the attacks and one had died a year earlier than the attacks. Leaving only 9 skyjackers to populate 4 planes and manage to somehow gain control of the aircraft, 4 out of 4 times, without the pilots issuing a warning code.
Oh, and that includes somehow getting the pilots to somehow depart from their flight plans BEFORE they even get into the cockpit. Oh my, eh?
And... If that's not bad enough, OBL actually credits one of the skyjackers, for having completed his training and carrying out the mission, even though this person was never involved and did not die on 911. Wha? Shouldn't OBL know who his cohorts were? Of course he would, thus the video of him speaking is a fake. Why so many fake pieces of evidence needed to make us believe that what we're told actually happened? At the least it means that what we are told is not what actually happened.
Go to google and enter "911 skyjackers found alive", then select whatever
news sources you believe to be credible and read.
In total to date, 9 of the 19 named and pictured skyjackers were alive after the attacks and one had died a year earlier than the attacks. Leaving only 9 skyjackers to populate 4 planes and manage to somehow gain control of the aircraft, 4 out of 4 times, without the pilots issuing a warning code.
Oh, and that includes somehow getting the pilots to somehow depart from their flight plans BEFORE they even get into the cockpit. Oh my, eh?
And... If that's not bad enough, OBL actually credits one of the skyjackers, for having completed his training and carrying out the mission, even though this person was never involved and did not die on 911. Wha? Shouldn't OBL know who his cohorts were? Of course he would, thus the video of him speaking is a fake. Why so many fake pieces of evidence needed to make us believe that what we're told actually happened? At the least it means that what we are told is not what actually happened.
Actually it means none of the above. If there are no planes, no one at the airline need be in on anything at all. Everything is arranged after the fact with just a few operatives here and there, whose only task is to confirm a story or an event. Anyone who knows otherwise is simply sworn to secrecy in the interest of national security and advised of the penalties that append thereto. Few, if any, professionals are going to be inclined to take the gov't to task, knowing how easily their own credentials could be called into question.
So, it's actually the reverse of what you're saying, that list is of things that would have to be met, if actual passenger planes were plucked from their scheduled trips for these tasks. But the planes flying from Boston weren't scheduled to fly on Tuesdays. So that gives you two free gates to begin your story with.
So, it's actually the reverse of what you're saying, that list is of things that would have to be met, if actual passenger planes were plucked from their scheduled trips for these tasks. But the planes flying from Boston weren't scheduled to fly on Tuesdays. So that gives you two free gates to begin your story with.
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All of the hijackers were accounted for and there is detailed information regarding their whereabouts and travels and meals and car rentals and bank withdrawals and all kinds of crap.
All you are talking about is a few cases of mistaken identity very early on that were subsequently corrected.
Anyone remember the name of the Doctor who was mistaken for a hijacker? I think his name was Mohamed Atta, Dr. Mohamed Atta. He's like a pediatrician from New Jersey or something who happened to take his wife to The Windows on the World the day before the attack. Small world.
In any event, why does any of this matter? The supposed Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorists, did not have the skills to fly these aircraft, less, in the manner they were shown to have flown. So either way you're working with a set of impossible circumstances and accepting a very improbable result.
What's even worse is that the NPT predicts that there will be NO authentic film of any planes hitting the towers, because, if that were true, it would preclude the existence of fake videos of same. These fake videos take quite some effort to create, and are even more harrowing to make under a deadline, where they have to be played on network news in just an hour or two.
Why such tight time constraints? Well, consider, WTC 1 has been hit and the smoke is already drifting. To "authenticate" the effort you have to display 18 minutes later, if you are to pass it off as "Live", needs to have up to date background in it. Not only can you not guess or approximate what the background will look like, it takes way too much, needless effort, to try to duplicate it falsely. Thus, you're fake creation needs to incorporate elements that won't be available until after the first tower is struck. From there you have 18 minutes to concoct your "live" video. Hardly a wonder they got so many things wrong.
What's even worse is that the NPT predicts that there will be NO authentic film of any planes hitting the towers, because, if that were true, it would preclude the existence of fake videos of same. These fake videos take quite some effort to create, and are even more harrowing to make under a deadline, where they have to be played on network news in just an hour or two.
Why such tight time constraints? Well, consider, WTC 1 has been hit and the smoke is already drifting. To "authenticate" the effort you have to display 18 minutes later, if you are to pass it off as "Live", needs to have up to date background in it. Not only can you not guess or approximate what the background will look like, it takes way too much, needless effort, to try to duplicate it falsely. Thus, you're fake creation needs to incorporate elements that won't be available until after the first tower is struck. From there you have 18 minutes to concoct your "live" video. Hardly a wonder they got so many things wrong.
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This is very strange. I did exactly as you said, and there are no hits for this. Seriously, Google gets exactly zero hits on "911 skyjackers found alive" and only 10 hits on this phrase without quotes. Is this your idea of how to do research?
That is beyond the scope of this exercise. This is to focus on; planes or no planes and the reasons why either is the more rational choice.
...And why do you forget that the FBI released photographs of the 19 skyjackers they named? Oh, right, by ignoring that fact you get to sound credible when you claim mistake, right? What does OBL do when he praises as one of his selected few, a skyjacker who wasn't a skyjacker and was never on his crew? Since when did OBL rely on the FBI/CIA for his terrorist planning information? Oh well, the CIA has already said that "the translations weren't literal", another way of saying "we lied". They do that a lot, funny most people never seem to notice which stories the CIA and the FBI and the NTSB have retracted, repudiated, denied, fudged, compromised, hedged, hemed, hawed and generally screwed up.